the Web 2.0 and capitalism

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Submitted by dvo on Tue, 2006-04-04 02:58

Everyone is talking about the "Web 2.0", or the "Living Web." The idea that everyone has recognized is that if you want to make a website with a lot of great stuff (but perhaps don't have many resources to start with), then set up a website where users can create their own content, and organize it, all by themselves. Wikipedia, Myspace, Flickr, etc. are great examples of this.

It occurred to me that this is analogous to the idea that makes capitalism so successful. If you want to set up a country that has a lot of great stuff, then you can either: A) Have the government provide all the content; or B) set up a system where any individual user (well, citizen) is free to add whatever content he thinks would be good. The spirit of the "Living Web" would tell you to go with the second option.

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Daniel, the web is the — by Ross Elliot on Tue, 2006-04-04 05:35

Heidegger on Aristotle

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Submitted by seddon on Mon, 2006-04-03 01:22

There is a lot to hate about Heidegger. The Nazi bullshit is enough to put one off one’s food. And even if you can get past that, there is his lousy writing style. When I teach Existentialism I do Heidegger right after Nietzsche and even the dullest student is aware of the difference. So why this entry? I think I have found something of value in Heidegger and thought I would pass it on. Rand loved Aristotle and Heidegger wrote quite a bit about him. And his approach to Aristotle attracted the attention of Jacob Kline, long associated with the Great Books program at St. John’s College in Annapolis and whose influence can now be witnessed in a wonderful series of translations of Aristotle by Joe Sachs. Specifically he has translated the METAPHYSICS, PHYSICS, ON THE SOUL, NICHOMACHEAN ETHICS, ON MEMORY AND RECOLLECTION, AND THE POETICS. But back to Heidegger.

Recent Comments:
Greekless — by seddon on Tue, 2006-04-04 20:09
Greekless... — by PhilipC on Tue, 2006-04-04 19:23
That's Brave — by seddon on Tue, 2006-04-04 18:56


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Submitted by William E. Perry on Sun, 2006-04-02 12:57

I am no longer employed by, or affiliated with The Objectivist Center. Nor will I be attending their summer seminar. There are several exceptions to this. First I am technically a member of TOC under its rules until sometime in August due to previous donations. Second I wrote an article about Terry Goodkind which should appear in an upcoming issue of the magazine. (I wrote the article in October.) If there are any letters to the editor concerning the article I may reply. Finally I have agreed to answer questions from the center about work I did, as well as the location of files in my former office and on my computer. I have also agreed to forward any e-mail I receive regarding TOC to the appropriate person there. I have specifically not agreed to give any advice about any matter.

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Photo please Roderick — by Lindsay Perigo on Tue, 2007-04-17 01:00
"Abstract Particulars" — by Fifth of November on Mon, 2007-04-16 23:07
TOC — by eg on Thu, 2006-04-06 17:56

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April Update

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Submitted by Jason Quintana on Sat, 2006-04-01 21:47

It has been an interesting month watching things develop here on SOLO. As I initially noted, I was surprised when Lindsay tapped me to run things here, but I decided that the challenge he was offering is one that gives me an outlet to focus on things that are important to me. Objectivism is important to me, discussing ideas is important to me, and advocating freedom is important to me. The goal that Lindsay and I share is that we both want to develop the best Objectivist community on the Internet. While SOLO is certainly my personal favorite Objectivist community I recognize that a lot of work needs to be done before we can once again claim this title. My first goal in this process is to build a strong team of people to help me run different aspects SOLO. A lot of what I write in my initial monthly updates will be aimed at attracting people to help with different projects. This month I have three such projects that I want to mention.

Recent Comments:
contra Jennifer — by Jody Gomez on Tue, 2006-04-04 03:21
Error in Dates — by Jason Quintana on Mon, 2006-04-03 22:36
Kenny — by Jason Quintana on Mon, 2006-04-03 19:56

Cut the bastards off!

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Submitted by Rick Giles on Sat, 2006-04-01 12:18

Jim 'The Spud' Bolger, 1990-1997 [pic: Dominion Post/]

There has been a buzz among some of us in the Kiwi blogosphere this week regarding the funding of our past Prime Ministers. Like ex-Presidents, old New Zealand PMs take a pension and take perks until the reaper finally takes them.

2005 Jim Bolger's travel cost $47,021 – which included $25,606 on self-drive cars.

Recent Comments:
No check, Brant, however I — by Ross Elliot on Sun, 2006-04-02 10:08
Tell your Mum that I give — by Ross Elliot on Sun, 2006-04-02 10:06
Ross — by eg on Sun, 2006-04-02 01:17

Objectivists Reeling!

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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Sat, 2006-04-01 04:33

A series of bizarre incidents has rocked the Objectivist movement overnight, causing a run on counselling books by renowned neo-Objectivist therapist Nathaniel Branden. Dr. Branden has responded by raising the price of his works to $10,000 each, nearly as much as he's believed to charge California's feeble-minded therapy addicts for a one-hour personal fix. When accused, by one frustrated would-be book-purchaser, of "price-gouging," Dr. Branden, aka "Dr." Branden, replied, "Eat shit, dickhead."

The crisis was triggered by the sudden confession by Ayn Rand biographer Barbara Branden that she has made mistakes. Ms. Branden has insisted in the past that she has never made a mistake. Those who say she has made mistakes, she has claimed repeatedly, are angry alcoholics. Now, Ms. Branden has stepped forward to say she was mistaken about never being mistaken. Speaking on the website, Ms. Branden said, "In painting a picture of Frank O'Connor as an alcoholic, I made an egregious error. The error consisted in my not pointing out that Ayn Rand was an alcoholic too. ('Ayn the Alky' we used to call her.) I left it for my readers to infer that from the fact that she was angry all the time, but I should have spelled it out. I can only apologise to my readers for the years of deception I have been responsible for in this matter. Oh, and while I'm about it, it goes without saying that Leonard Peikoff is an alcoholic also. 'Lenny the Lush' we used to call him." When it was pointed out that she had presented no evidence of Dr. Peikoff's alcoholism, Ms. Branden retorted (angrily), "When has that ever stopped me? Furthermore, on this occasion I do have evidence, and I am its source. I saw Leonard once. He was angry AND he had a drink in his hand. There! Ha! Case closed, you raging pisshead!"

Recent Comments:
"And James? Hell, I called — by John M Newnham on Tue, 2006-04-04 15:32
Broken Balls — by Dan Edge on Sun, 2006-04-02 18:19
Give me a break — by sjw on Sun, 2006-04-02 17:56

Letter to NYU

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Submitted by Erika Holzer on Fri, 2006-03-31 22:59

This was just sent to NYU President John Sexton. Pass it on!



"Make the best use of what is in your power, and take the rest as it happens."
Epictetus, Stoic philosopher & crippled former slave.

From: Erika Holzer []
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:11 PM
To: ''
Subject: From two NYU Law School graduates

My husband, Henry Mark Holzer, earned a BA from New York University and we both earned our Juris Doctor degrees at the law school in 1959.

We are ashamed of our connection with NYU because of your craven surrender regarding the Danish cartoons and the treatment accorded the Ayn Rand Institute panelists, as well as members of the public, all of whom courageously wished to discuss a serious and important issue like civilized human beings.

Recent Comments:
Correction — by Rowlf on Tue, 2006-04-04 05:21
Wafa is not a Muslim - she — by Pete L on Mon, 2006-04-03 01:42
Kenny: ~~ Yes, "Muslims have — by Rowlf on Mon, 2006-04-03 01:20

Hsieh Got My Classes Laughing

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Submitted by seddon on Fri, 2006-03-31 22:08

Hsieh's crack about me being the "most unreliable secondary source [on Kant] ever" was too funny for me not to tell my classes--the two ethics sections that I currently teaching. We are near the end of Kant's GROUNDING. Once I told them how vast the secondary literature on Kant is they found Hsieh's remark too funny. Then all during class at the appropriate moment, e.g., when I was answering a question or explicating a particualrly difficult passage I would remind them not to take my word since after all, I am the "most unreliable secondary source EVER." In fact, at one point I repeated Hsieh's line and the class in unison supplied the EVER. Someone asked me the web address so maybe we'll get some people to take a look at SOLOpassion, Of course, don't believe me after all etc.

Recent Comments:
Well-trained and thoroughness — by James Heaps-Nelson on Tue, 2006-04-11 20:38
Training — by James Heaps-Nelson on Tue, 2006-04-11 20:16
well-trained..and thoroughness — by PhilipC on Tue, 2006-04-11 20:00

Email received

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Submitted by Kenny on Fri, 2006-03-31 13:41

This email got past Norton anti-spam (spooky!) and reached my inbox yesterday. It has been forwarded to Scotland Yard.

Dear Sir;

I am Abacha Blair, nephew of the Head of State and Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces of the United Kingdom.

We have come into £14 Million Pounds which has been lent to us by noble supporters of the regime, which we must transfer to an account in your country before it is found by agents of the security services (The Electoral Commission, Parliamentary Standards Committee and Scotland Yard).

These moneys must only be used for the doing of good works which is why we have contacted you as an upstanding member of the community. As a trusted individual, please send us your bank account details and we will TRANSFER IMMEDIATELY the sum of £14 Million UK Dollars into your account. It is very important that you only spend these moneys on community benefit projects although as a consideration we will pay you a HANDLING FEE of 20 PER CENT and nominate you for a PEERAGE in the HOUSE OF LORDS in the British Parliament.

Recent Comments:
James, you've finally got it! — by Kenny on Sat, 2006-04-01 20:41
Blair in loans for peerages scandal — by James Heaps-Nelson on Sat, 2006-04-01 19:58
Peers don't wear wigs. On — by Kenny on Sat, 2006-04-01 15:26

It's April 1 in NZ ...

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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Fri, 2006-03-31 03:54

Standards NZ think this is funny. And it is. What's not funny is that if it were serious, no one would turn a hair!


MEDIA RELEASE New NZ Standard on Lift etiquette

Standards New Zealand has initiated a new Standard to govern the way in which people behave in and around lifts. The Standard will specify appropriate queuing behaviour, right-of-way rules for those exiting and entering lifts, and - most importantly - define appropriate behaviour when actually travelling in lifts.

"Standards NZ has become aware of concerns amongst the general public about an increasing tendency for rudeness that seems to be triggered by close proximity to lifts," says Rob Steele, Chief Executive at Standards NZ.

Recent Comments:
Rules to be extended — by Kenny on Fri, 2006-03-31 09:31
Must... resist... — by Ross Elliot on Fri, 2006-03-31 04:45

UK Libertarian Alliance KASSes Again!

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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Fri, 2006-03-31 00:28


The Libertarian Alliance, the radical free market and civil
liberties policy institute, today calls on the Crown Prosecution
Service to drop its investigation into the private life of the
well-known fashion model Kate Moss. Miss Moss could be charged with
possession of cocaine. If convicted, she could in theory go to
prison for seven years and face an unlimited fine.

Libertarian Alliance Director, Dr Sean Gabb, says:

"If Kate Moss wants to sniff cocaine - not that I would for a moment

Recent Comments:
Spot on — by Kenny on Fri, 2006-03-31 09:10

Proto Kyoto

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Submitted by Rick Giles on Thu, 2006-03-30 12:15

Bangladesh, for example
The other week I was blogging about George Reisman, the economist.

I planned to come back to one of the very interesting points George made with respect to the global warming mumbo-jumbo and what it means for developing nations. Bangladesh, for example.

Have been waiting for a nifty lead-in but in all this time the best I can do is that a left wing and a right wing blog have each just done respective little environmental jigs. One is praising Michael Chrichton's "State of Fear" and the other is bemoaning the fact that the Gov isn't doing more to respond to climate change- take a wild guess for yourselves which blog is saying which!

Islamo-Fascist Filth Cows NYU

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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Wed, 2006-03-29 21:27

Story on Diana's blog:

NYU Cowardice

Recent Comments:
Diana — by Kenny on Sat, 2006-04-01 21:04
Check Your Facts, Kenny — by DianaHsieh on Sat, 2006-04-01 17:49
Objectivist Standard links — by Kenny on Sat, 2006-04-01 16:56

Collectivism, Climate Change, and Economic Freedom

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Submitted by George Reisman on Wed, 2006-03-29 02:10

An individual kills someone—for money, out of jealousy, as an act of revenge, or because he doesn’t like his victim’s looks. A chorus of left-“liberals” rushes in to excuse his act, especially if he is poor. He is not responsible, they say. The real criminal is “Society,” for having allowed him to live in the conditions that led him to kill.

Another individual owns a refrigerator, an air conditioner, and an automobile or SUV. This time, a chorus of left-“liberals” rushes in and pronounces him guilty. He is allegedly guilty of causing “global warming,” by virtue of the carbon dioxide emitted into the atmosphere in connection with the fossil fuels required to produce and operate his goods.

On being Right

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Submitted by Rick Giles on Wed, 2006-03-29 01:04

What does being 'on the right' mean to me?

The term is a broad brush stroke, a useful generalisation. The characteristic feature of a right winger's politics is his belief in the market. He believes 'good ends' come of trade, that the forces of supply and demand will reconsile their own natural level of production and consumption. He believes that there are laws, perhaps scientific ones, which allocate a never-ending array of various goods and services according to the qualities and quantities individuals choose for themselves. The right-winger has convinced himself, if imperfectly, that the left-winger (who seeks by degree to supplant this natural and automatic allocation process with an explicit human plan) cannot choose these rich mixtures for each of the many individuals, nor of society as a whole, better than the unfettered individuals can choose for themselves.

Recent Comments:
Both agree — by Rick Giles on Wed, 2006-03-29 01:36
Nice one Rick. I have to — by JulianP on Wed, 2006-03-29 01:13

Machan's Musings - Impossible Egalitarianism

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Submitted by removed on Wed, 2006-03-29 00:59

Among my many acquaintances there are some avid egalitarians. Among these a few are very influential, a couple of them leaders in the global movement called “the capabilities approach.” They have written extremely well-published books and essays advocating global wealth redistribution. Some have even insisted that nearly all the resources possessed by those in developed countries need to be sent abroad to be used by the poor. As one has written, “On pain of living a life that's seriously immoral, a typical well-off person, like you and me, must give away most of her financially valuable assets, and much of her income, directing the funds to lessen efficiently the serious suffering of others.”

Recent Comments:
Tibor! — by eg on Wed, 2006-03-29 05:56
Magnificent — by Pete L on Wed, 2006-03-29 05:46

Bohemian Rhapsody

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Submitted by JoeM on Tue, 2006-03-28 17:02

On the "other forum," there's an interesting rebuttal of the book THE RISE OF THE CREATIVE CLASS, which is a call for government to spend more money attracting so called creative artists to rejunivate cities. As was pointed out by others, the author replaces cause and effect by government planning. I wrote,

Philadelphia is going through something of a renovation, and areas like South Street, famous for it's bohemian stylings, is slowly giving way to Starbucks and the like. Of course, all the dirty hippies complain about the area losing its charm, and such. But when that charm is manifest as punk rock shops and various holes in walls, you won't see me complaining.

Abortion is a Property Rights issue

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Submitted by Kamarat McWashington on Tue, 2006-03-28 14:12

Reposted from: Atlantis Blog

A wonderful little piece by Humble
B Wonderful

has lead me to ponder the abortion
issue again. Essentially her position is that abortion is a property
rights issue and provides a wonderful thought exercise on her blog in
regards to that position. I agree with her points. Further more I
agree with the Objectivist View that abortion is Pro-life and it is a property rights issue.
The right to property or ownership is the freedom to use and dispose
of one's property as you see fit. The first thing one owns as a
separate individual being is one's body. Therefore, the right to
property in this case is the right to use and/or dispose of ones body
as you see fit. A government that states or is given the power to
control what goes in or what goes out of your body, implies they have
a right to the use/ or dispose of your body. Government is only
a group of individuals. So lets follow this reasoning to its
conclusion. A group of individuals that controls the use of /or
dispose of your body implies that you are the property of this group
or government. This is just plain slavery. The rights of a fetus
would be the right to slavery. That's just not right at all.

For those of you looking for forbidden aural pleasure...

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Submitted by Adam Buker on Mon, 2006-03-27 07:59

My new website will open this Saturday at midnight. You'll be able to hear samples, see what compositions I am working on as well as buy recordings of my music. So don't go out this Saturday. Stay home and surf your computer over to !

Recent Comments:
Don't fight her, Adam. I — by Ross Elliot on Tue, 2006-03-28 06:18
Ack! — by Prima Donna on Tue, 2006-03-28 03:47
Fine! Have it your way, Ms. — by Adam Buker on Tue, 2006-03-28 03:37


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Submitted by Adam Buker on Mon, 2006-03-27 07:41

*SEETHING WITH UNCONTROLLABLE RAGE* Ok, although I dislike Microsoft's software, I never did think that any monopoly case against them could be legitimate (like the Sherman Antitrust act itself) because of the possibliity of choosing an alternative via Apple (whose products I use religiously) or Linux. Now Apple is the big bad monopoly?! Granted they have dominance in the legal media download market, but is it really any wonder? The iTunes and the iPod are terrific products that are easy to use and cost effective. But if you don't like iTunes and/or the iPod, you can use Rhapsody or other such services as well as other types of mp3 devices.

Recent Comments:
I've said this on another thread discussing this case ... — by Duncan Bayne on Mon, 2006-03-27 20:11

The Environmentalists Are Trying to Frighten the Natives

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Submitted by George Reisman on Sun, 2006-03-26 08:10

In a manner reminiscent of witch doctors urging primitive people to sacrifice their sheep and goats in order to mollify the wrath of the gods, today’s environmentalists and their shills in the media and academe repeatedly urge the people of the United States and the rest of the modern world to sacrifice their use of energy and their standard of living in order to avoid the wrath of the Earth and its atmosphere. That wrath will allegedly take one form or another: a new ice age (recall the predictions of Paul Ehrlich) or, if not a new ice age, then global warming and a resulting rise in sea levels. And if global warming and a rise in sea levels of 1 to 3 feet over the next 100 to 150 years is not sufficiently frightening, then a rise in sea levels of 13 to 20 feet over centuries lying still further in the future is projected. Both of these sea-level results are supposed to proceed from a projected rise in average global temperature of 4 degrees, and of average temperature in the Arctic specifically of 5 to 8 degrees. (See “Melting Ice Threatens Sea-Level Rise” and “Climate Data Hint at Irreversible Rise in Seas” in today’s [March 25, 2006] New York Times.)

Recent Comments:
The climate is changing... — by Marcus on Sun, 2006-03-26 18:23

How I Philosophise

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Submitted by Rick Giles on Sat, 2006-03-25 10:39

-- Click to enlarge

Philosophical appreciation is not the same as biographical appreciation. Why do people keep mixing them up?

Let me tell you right now that, philosophically, I don't really give a damn what Ayn Rand believed. Likewise, when it comes to Scientology I don't give a damn what Tom Cruise believes. What I want to know are the premises, the reasoning and the conclusions. Is it sound? Is it valid? Does it wash out harsh stains and leave my dishes squeeky-clean?

Recent Comments:
PARC is optional — by sjw on Sun, 2006-03-26 16:48
How to philosophise — by Rick Giles on Sun, 2006-03-26 13:22
A game of two halves — by Tim S on Sun, 2006-03-26 11:47

Ni Idea

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Submitted by eg on Fri, 2006-03-24 17:32

Roger Bissell on Feb. 18 posted the "only" review you'd need for PARC on Objectivist Living.

Recent Comments:
The least — by eg on Mon, 2006-03-27 15:07
Hmmm It would appear we have — by John M Newnham on Mon, 2006-03-27 13:42
And now MSK — by Casey on Fri, 2006-03-24 22:18

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"Freedom Jacked"! Congress is trying to pass another Abramoff Deal

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Submitted by Kamarat McWashington on Fri, 2006-03-24 16:37

Reposted from: Atlantis Blog

Did you hear about the new lobbying scandal? It is an "Abramoff Deal". What is an Abramoff Deal you may ask? It is when a person or group of individuals try to gain an advantage by playing both sides. Similar to a Faustian deal, they both come back to bite you in the behind. However, an Abramoff Deal is worse. In a Faustian deal, you at least know that you have a good chance of the screws being put to you. Yet with a Abramoff Deal, they will support you and your adversary at the same time. This way they gain more money or advantages from the escalating conflict between you both.

Rousseau and Kant—Partners in Crime

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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Fri, 2006-03-24 08:41

"Kant is the most evil man in mankind’s history."

Recent Comments:
Ah! — by Lindsay Perigo on Wed, 2009-08-19 22:46
The proof of "most evil" — by Ptgymatic on Wed, 2009-08-19 22:44
That is Great — by gregster on Tue, 2009-08-18 09:40

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Notes on the Psycho Epistemology of Acting

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Submitted by Dan Edge on Thu, 2006-03-23 23:15



This essay is an attempt to explain, in more detail than has been presented in the past, the psychological processes involved in acting. I'm going to define some basic concepts in psychology and psycho-epistemology and apply them to the realm of theatre, specifically to Stanislovski's method of acting.

Recent Comments:
Emotions are a response to — by JennaW on Tue, 2006-03-28 23:50
Try It Your Own Way — by Dan Edge on Sat, 2006-03-25 20:13
Brow crinkling — by sjw on Sat, 2006-03-25 18:23

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Stanislavski Quotes

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Submitted by Dan Edge on Thu, 2006-03-23 23:03

Stanislavski was a Russian actor/director/teacher who worked in Moscow until his death in the early 20th century. His "method" of acting is today widely revered and implemented around the world. He was the first to popularize romantic realism in theatre. I would like to write an essay on his life some time in the near future, but for now I wanted to present some quotes of his that moved me:

- "What does in really mean to be truthful on stage? Does it mean that you conduct yourself as you do in ordinary life? Not at all. Truthfulness in those terms would be sheer triviality. There is the the same difference between artistic and inartistic truth as exists between a painting and a photograph: the latter produces everything, the former only what is essential; to put the essential on canvas requires the talent of a painter."

Meat and Mushroom Clouds on Doves' Feet

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Submitted by Rick Giles on Thu, 2006-03-23 04:13

DPF at Kiwiblog, and commenters, have been reacting to the work of Dr Marc Wilson of Victoria Uni (and his student/s).

The Dominion today reports on Wilson's latest work into social psychological factors influencing peoples' food preferences. DPF says....

An academic study on meat eating has found that a partial reason why men eat meat is to "express dominance or masculinity".

Silly me. I thought I ate meat simply because I enjoyed the taste. But what would I know.

Riveting Rand

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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Thu, 2006-03-23 00:33

I’ve spent the past day reacquainting myself with Ayn Rand, via the recently-published Ayn Rand Answers—the Best of her Q & A.

I’ve spent the past day in Atlantis.

Recent Comments:
Musing on artists as art — by Newberry on Mon, 2009-10-05 17:15
The Parrish verdict — by Ellen Stuttle on Fri, 2009-10-02 07:15
Undeserved Charity — by jriggenbach on Thu, 2009-10-01 22:49

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Humour: George Carlin's Rules for 2006 - Corrected!

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Submitted by Robert on Wed, 2006-03-22 19:59


Actually, George Carlin didn’t write the rules that were originally posted here. It has been pointed out to me that Bill Maher invented the "New Rules" comic device. These particular rules aired on Bill's Real Time program. It aired on HBO between March and September 2005.

You can actually read Bill's rules "New Rules" here.

You can read the rules that used to be posted here at this website.

And well you should read them, because there are some bloody funny ones there. But don't take my word for it, I've posted by favourite rules below.

All that remains is to offer a red-faced mea culpa.  I offer my apologies to Bill Maher and George Carlin for misattributing their work and for posting something without checking the copyright issues around it. I shall now go and eat some boiled Brussels sprouts as punishment.

Let this be a lesson to the rest of you. Never believe any E-mail you receive from an Australian. Those bloody sheep-shagging sons’s of sheep-rustlers couldn't lie straight in bed.

Recent Comments:
URLs — by Robert on Fri, 2006-03-24 16:36
So why didn't those urls — by Luke H on Fri, 2006-03-24 10:30
Tone — by JoeM on Fri, 2006-03-24 06:23

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