New Ghate and Journo Book on "Islamic Totalitarianism" - My Amazon Review

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Submitted by Neil Parille on Wed, 2016-08-31 22:02

Editors Onkar Ghate and Elan Journo are employees of the Ayn Rand Institute (ARI). This book contains essays, articles, and blog posts of ARI writers who argue that the USA and the West have failed to confront "Islamic Totalitarianism" by means of foreign and military policy. As one of the contributors (ARI CEO Yaron Brook) has said the USA should "flatten Saudi Arabia and Iran." The result of this failure are the numerous terrorist attacks in the US and Europe that are happening seemingly weekly.

There are a few problems with this idea.

1. The contributors never tell us how this would prevent Islamic terrorism. In Nice, France, a Tunisian immigrant recently rented a truck and ran over a couple hundred people, killing 85. How would this have been prevented by bombing Saudi Arabia and Iran? The idea that someone is too stupid to rent a truck and run people over without approval or funding from some Imam from Saudi Arabia is silly. If anything, attacking these countries would increase terrorism, since it is likely to radicalize the fence sitters.

2. That mass Islamic immigration of Muslims into the West has had anything to do with terrorism is ignored. This is not surprising since writers associated with the ARI tend to support "open immigration" of Muslims into Europe and the USA. Editor Ghate is so extreme that he apparently supports open immigration of Muslims into Israel although this would turn Israel Islamic. ARI honcho Yaron Brook supports open immigration of Muslims into Europe, but hypocritically opposes it for Israel. The only mention of immigration concerns Trump's call for a ban on Muslims entering the US and the Orlando shooter who, Journo tells us, was "like Trump" born in New York. Wow, how's that for deep analysis. Journo then accuses Trump of racism and tribalism. Ghate and Journo aren't fighting the left, they are the left.

3. Poland doesn't have a problem with Islamic terrorism. If military policy is the solution to Islamic terrorism, then why don't we just follow Poland's military policy? I didn't know that the mighty Polish air force has been "flattening" Saudi Arabia and Iran.

4. As an aside, I disagree with the concept "Islamic Totalitarianism." Jihad is part of the Sharia and the Sharia is part of Islam.

Western civilization is indeed in peril. My guess is that Ayn Rand would be shocked that some of her supposed followers support (or at least would permit) the demographic destruction of the West.


Vladimir Putin Inauguration 2012

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Look, I don't know a word of Russian, but I can tel the man is against The New World Order:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Leftists Lie

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Here is Tom Woods:

http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep...

Have you ever heard Yawon talk with this level of lucidity?

50% OF Venezuelans Would Leave Venezuela

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Now in some sense this is good news. They realize that there is something wrong with their country.

But I bet 60% would come to the USA if they could.

But do they realize it's socialism that has made their country a Hell? I bet half who would come voted for Maduro or Chavez.

This is something Brook, et al. never consider. Just because people want to come to the USA, it doesn't mean that our relative freedom is the source of our prosperity.

Source: http://latino.foxnews.com/lati...

Jo Staffird - You Belong To Me

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Interesting to note that Islam was seen as lethargic.

Brook Tries to Explain Why Bombing SA Will Stop Terrorism

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At 26-37 mins.

Yaron: It's Europe's Fault

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Yaron Brook Doubles Down

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Here is his radio show today.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/y...

He thinks Islamic immigration is unrelated to Islamic terrorism.

Mark

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I recall Brook saying something to the effect that it's horrible that Israel has to be the one country without open immigration, but because Jews have been persecuted it's necessary, etc. Are Jews the only people who have suffered? North Africa used to be Christian, and look what happened. What about the Armenians, what about the Yazidis of today? And Jews in Europe (particularly France) are leaving thanks to the joys of open immigration.

Did Jesus Exist?

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What struck me was that after 30 years' immersion in the topic, James and Casey are still agnostic as to whether Jesus himself existed. This is not a criticism—I just find it remarkable that after such immersion it's still possible to have no clear sense one way or the other.

I don't see any reason to doubt that Jesus existed.  No one doubts that Hannibal existed and there are no contemporaneous historical sources, unlike those for Jesus.  Even an agonstic and critic of the historical accuarcy Bart Erhman doesn't doubt Jesus' existence.

There is a book, The Historical Jesus: Five Views which has a spectrum of views from Jesus didn't exist to the Gospel accounts are extremely accurate.

I'd also recommend: Jesus Outside the New Testament (Van Voorst) and Fabricating Jesus (Evans).

 

Grant

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Imagine . . . and no religion too. Just happy Pekovian Randroids.

Yawon Bwook's Neo-Marxism

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"of course, in a truly ideal world there would be no Muslims or Jews." Yawon Bwook. So, the ideal requires an Judenrein world?

I've got nothing.

talking to the walls in code

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Amy knows that Israel will never opt for open immigration so it’s safe for her to advocate open borders for Israel. Even Brook has said that Israel should not have walls – flatly contradicting what he says elsewhere.

In order for Amy and Brook’s sometime and inconsistent criticism of Israel to mean something they must trash Israel up and down and back and forth for restricting immigration just the way they do Trump and Ann Coulter. They never do. They say things like “Israel doesn’t have open borders, it should, it’s too bad, but Israel is still the greatest thing since sliced bread.”

https://twitter.com/yaronbrook...
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@yaronbrook But in an ideal world Israel would allow unlimited Islamic immigration even if it became Islamic [yes[ [no]
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@RDellomand yes.
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It’s safe for Yaron Brook to say it because he know his saying it doesn’t matter.

Atwill and Valliant

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I read Atwill's book a while ago. I wasn't impressed. If you search hard enough you can find parallels between anything and everything.

Actually, there has been much writing in recent years arguing that behind much of the New Testament was opposition to the growing Emperor Cult. I skimmed Valliant's endnotes and it doesn't seem that he is familiar with this writing.

Greg

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Thanks. I didn't know Jim's book came out. Now maybe he can work on PARC 2.0

Since Valliant was so incompetent in handling 2 sources in PARC, I can only imagine how he'll mangle a few hundred years of history.

UPDATE: I purchased the Kindle edition. James and Casy obviously put a lot of effort into it.

Ha!

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You can never shut James up. But there's never anything he says that isn't worth hearing, even when he's wrong! Smiling

Linz

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I've listened to your interview with James, the one where you couldn't shut him up. Very good. I'm pleased he has been well enough to finish the book, and not been accursed by the gods.

Mark

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Yes, Valliant and Fahy cite various books in the introduction including that one.

Your first link seems excellent. I liked this part:

Literary imitation, typology, and enigma

Regardless of any reader’s intuition about the likelihood of a Roman conspiracy to invent Christianity, Caesar’s Messiah is fundamentally evidence-based and grounded in literary analysis. The basic methodology is the assessment of literary imitation; that is, borrowing or mimesis. By borrowing literary elements from a predecessor, an author betrays his awareness of the precedent material, as well as revealing his viewpoint or analysis of it.

Literary imitation has been a common practice in all ages, and was highly revered among the authors of the Old Testament, who were especially fond of chiastic forms. Chiasm involves a series of literary elements that are placed in order and then referred to in reverse order, unwinding the chiasm: for example, ABCCBA. These structures can be brief, or very extensive: almost the entire Torah from the middle of Exodus to the end of Leviticus is said to be a giant chiasm. New Testament scholars discovered that the Gospel characters and events are often foreshadowed in the Old Testament, in a relationship in which the Old Testament model is called the ‘Type’ and the New Testament embodiment is called the ‘Antetype’. The theological study of ‘Types’ and ‘Antetypes’ is called Typology, and theological practitioners see New Testament events as evidence of Divine intervention in history. Modern secular literary critics, of course, see it as proof only that the New Testament authors studied the Old Testament and invoked its authority and wisdom in their writings.

In Caesar’s Messiah, Atwill focused on a particular variety of typology that involves a series of parallels that are dense, sequential, distinctive, and interpretable.[xxii] When these criteria are met in abundance, they can be considered as sure evidence of literary dependency. ‘Density’ relates to the number of parallels that occur within a brief amount of text; ‘sequence’ relates to the extent that the parallel references occur in the same order; ‘distinctiveness’ relates to the degree that the parallels must relate to unusual and infrequent words, names or concepts; and ‘interpretability’ relates to the extent that we can understand the reasoning behind the choice to use a particular literary reference; the ways in which the reference has been transformed or slavishly copied, as the case may be; and the point that the author is trying to make.

The New Testament makes abundant use of dense, sequential, distinctive and interpretable mimesis of the Old Testament. A good example is Matthew’s story of Jesus’s empty tomb, which draws from the tale of Daniel in the lion’s den.

Romianity

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I went straight to the Conclusion and wondered if it were really that "revolutionary" to say Christianity was actually the product of Roman expediency, a useful tool in the subjugation of the Jews.

What struck me was that after 30 years' immersion in the topic, James and Casey are still agnostic as to whether Jesus himself existed. This is not a criticism—I just find it remarkable that after such immersion it's still possible to have no clear sense one way or the other.

Some beautiful paras at the end on the aesthetic upside of religion. Interestingly, the piece of music they cite, Schubert's Ave Maria, is the one I used in my article, Why Catholicism Is Kicking Objectivism's Ass Still. Pity one can't copy and paste from Kindle.

Note that Valliant didn’t

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Note that Valliant didn’t originate the thesis of his and Fahy’s book Creating Christ: How Roman Emperors Invented Christianity . In 2005 Joseph Atwill, a software engineer, wrote Caesar’s Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus where it first appeared. I haven’t read either book.

http://postflaviana.org/introd...
http://www.caesarsmessiah.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Hurrah!

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They finally did it!! I interviewed James about this project, then called Behind the Cross, for two hours one Easter on Radio Live years ago. Just bought it and finished the intro. Promises to be fascinating.

NP

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If you want something for the weekend, there's Jim's new book to get your teeth into. I got a Kindle version yesterday. We've been waiting some time for this one. It's taken them 30 years to put together. Longer than DIM! Creating Christ, How Roman Emperors Invented Christianity. Looks good so far, but lots of pictures of coinage.

Phyliss Schlafly, RIP

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Molly interviewed her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Feminism = big government as everyone, except Yaron Brook, Amy Peikoff, etc. don't understand.

Israel's Walls

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Hi Mark -

I was surprised when Brook said Israel should not have walls. I think he has said the opposite before. And how can Israel have closed immigration without borders?

How About India?

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India should open its borders with Pakistan and Bangladesh. This is especially true for the border between Pakistan and Kashmir. After all, most Pakis are just immigrating to better their lives. India must also provide birthright citizenship for all their new Paki arrivals. Then, they must have free, open elections in around twenty years. Any other policy is raaaaaycist and xenophobic as per ARI's large Hindu donors.

 

talking to the walls in code

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Amy knows that Israel will never opt for open immigration so it’s safe for her to advocate open borders for Israel. Even Brook has said that Israel should not have walls – flatly contradicting what he says elsewhere.

In order for Amy and Brook’s sometime and inconsistent criticism of Israel to mean something they must trash Israel up and down and back and forth for restricting immigration just the way they do Trump and Ann Coulter. They never do. They say things like “Israel doesn’t have open borders, it should, it’s too bad, but Israel is still the greatest thing since sliced bread.”

Amy on open immigration into Israel

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I assume she supports it.

Open Immigration Is Based On Altruism

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This can't be stressed too much. Amy Peikoff was very explicit on this. She said you can't screen people based on whether they will reduce wage rates, have low IQs or come from "inferior cultures."

In other words, even if immigrants seriously degrade our culture to the point of creating a population that does not support the rule of law or individual freedom, tough.

Now Amy might say, "yes, but you'd still have open immigration and wouldn't be violating people's rights." But what if the new population decides to vote out open immigration? Does Amy think "open immigration" will last long in Israel once the "inferior culture" of Islam takes over?

Another Day, Another Crime

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A Syrian refugee in Germany who tried to kill his wife by setting her on fire using barbecue lighter fluid ended up dying in the flames. 

The 45-year-old stormed a house the town of Ruedesheim, west of Frankfurt, and started dousing his spouse with the flammable liquid on Thursday. 

When he tried to burn her alive, the flames engulfed him and the would-be killer died of his injuries. 

The 45-year-old stormed a house the town of Ruedesheim (pictured), west of Frankfurt, and started dousing his spouse with the flammable liquid on Thursday, but died himself in the attack

The 45-year-old stormed a house the town of Ruedesheim (pictured), west of Frankfurt, and started dousing his spouse with the flammable liquid on Thursday, but died himself in the attack

The woman, 31, was severely burned in the incident which also caused extensive damage to the asylum home where she lives with their three children.   

Three more of the 14 residents of the home were injured and one of them is understood to be the couple's toddler. 

According to media reports the would-be killer inhaled a massive blast of flame that burned out his lungs.  

She is being treated In specialist burns unit in Mainz and is suffering life threatening injuries, according to a spokesman for Hesse state police. 

Good Video On Objectivism And Immigration

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Neil and Mark

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The late, great Samuel P. Huntington on the Dead Souls of no-borders globalists:

"A contemporary answer to [Walter] Scott's question is: Yes, the number of dead souls is small but growing among America's business, professional, intellectual and academic elites. Possessing in Scott's words, "titles, power and pelf", they also have decreasing ties with the American nation. Coming back to America from a foreign strand, they are not likely to be overwhelmed with deep feelings of commitment to their "native land." Their attitudes and behavior contrast with the overwhelming patriotism and nationalistic identification of the rest of the American public. A major gap is growing in America between the dead or dying souls among its elites and its "Thank God for America" public. This gap was temporarily obscured by the patriotic rallying after September 11. In the absence of repeated comparable attacks, however, the pervasive and fundamental forces of economic globalization make it likely that the denationalizing of elites will continue."

http://www.freerepublic.com/fo...

Yaron Brook is the George

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Yaron Brook is the George Soros of Objectivism. A citizen of the world with no national allegiance ...

What a great line, Neil. I shall steal it.

Amy's Rant

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Her attempt to conflate deporting native born Americans and excluding foreigners as both examples of "screening" is dishonest and evasive. A certain amount of native born Americans - not anchor babies - will become criminals. They're our problem. I don't see how this obligates the American people to import every social and cultural pathology on the globe. She's intellectually dishonest.

This is a good point.

Ed Powell pointed out that we are still relatively free because we haven't imported an unlimited number of immigrants from non-rights respecting countries.  Amy's response: "so we can protect our freedoms by violating the rights of others?"  She doesn't appreciate the role of culture.  If Country A is free and has 5 million people and Country B is statist with a population of 20 million, County A is morally obligated to allow 10 million of B's citizens in, even if that results in turning A statist?  I guess so.

I think Ed Powell is excellent but he allowed Amy to keep the converstation on an abstract level.  He should have pressed her on whether she supports open immigration into Israel and, if not, why not.  He should have pointed out that open immigration of Mexicans means the South West becomes Democratic in a generation.  Etc.

No Amy, you're not entitled to your own foreign policy. She said at the beginning that immigration policy is a part of foreign policy. Then, she natters on about her right to "invite" foreign nationals to enter the country for employment. Her unspoken premise being that importing tens-of-millions of non-English speaking unskilled and semiskilled laborers is some net economic benefit to the country. Otherwise, how will Yawon Bwook's yuge lawn get mowed.

I read a while ago (but haven't had the time to verify) that the population of what is now Czhech / Slovakia has been constant for the last 100 years or so.  They don't have lots of immigrants.  Do their lawns get mowed?  Incidentally, there isn't much immigration into upper New England.  Last time I visited New Hampshire it looks like people managed to get their lawns cut.

Yaron Brook is the George Soros of Objectivism.  A citizen of the world with no national allegiance, well except destroying nations (except Israel).

Inexplicable

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Peikoff discuses immigration at about minute 11 in the link 4 comments up (or here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/a...). I checked out a full 17 minutes of her show. But I can't help but wonder: Why do people make shows which bore you to tears? Molyneux seems more energetic, exciting, and fun. The first 12 or so minutes of American, syndicated, radio personalities Mark Levin and Sean Hannity are usually pretty good. And so, so many YouTube video commentaries are also engaging and enjoyable. So how is it somehow a value in the Objectivist and libertarian community to make unbearably tedious, dull-witted, uninformative, and unentertaining audio and video shows? Puzzled

Amy's Rant

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I've listened to the first thirty minutes of Amy's latest "blog radio" thing. It's about all I can tolerate

Her attempt to conflate deporting native born Americans and excluding foreigners as both examples of "screening" is dishonest and evasive. A certain amount of native born Americans - not anchor babies - will become criminals. They're our problem. I don't see how this obligates the American people to import every social and cultural pathology on the globe. She's intellectually dishonest.

Jesus H. Christ! No Amy, you're not entitled to your own foreign policy. She said at the beginning that immigration policy is a part of foreign policy. Then, she natters on about her right to "invite" foreign nationals to enter the country for employment. Her unspoken premise being that importing tens-of-millions of non-English speaking unskilled and semiskilled laborers is some net economic benefit to the country. Otherwise, how will Yawon Bwook's yuge lawn get mowed.

Despite Amy's deflection, it's really not that hard to grasp. Caller Ed is correct. American immigration policy should be based on the national self-interest of the United States. I have yet to hear Amy - or anyone else - make a positive case for mass Moslem hijrah into the US or Europe. What possible benefit do the American people acquire from importing a medieval death cult that has been at jihad with Western Civilization for 1400 years? Bwook? Amy? Binswanger? Bueller? Bueller? Since no such argument exists, she falls back on the fallacy of the "right" to immigrate. No such right exists. The American people as a sovereign polity have every right to control who and what crosses their border.

The Ideology of Islam

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People who intellectually and morally condemn "Islamic totalitarianism", "Islamism", and "radical Islam" are implicitly, intellectually and morally sanctioning Islam. That makes them the enemy of the world. Pseudo-Objectivists Ghate and Journo are morons and lowlifes.

Amy

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Based on what she said she supports open immigration of Muslims to Europe and Israel so long as the immigrants are properly vetted.

I think this is silly, but at least the former Mrs. Peikoff is consistent.

Amy Peikoff On Immigration

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Titanic's Deck Chairs

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Yawon Bwook is no longer ARI's CEO. He's now the "executive chairman." It seems his main function will be that of global glad-hander and fundraiser. We can count on Yawon "To Hell with America" Bwook to continue his "citizen of the world" routine overseas. ARI is looking for a new CEO to run day to day operations - only losertarians and foreign nationals need apply.

https://ari.aynrand.org/media-...

Donald Trump's Mother

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Donald Trump dedicates second Scottish golf course to beloved mother ...'

she was born in Scotland

Recent "Scottish" girls going to serve ISIS.&.

Thanks Yaron.

Thanks Neil

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You make it clear in your review that this is just more of the same shallow rubbish from ARI. And, none of it original material! I like your reference to Poland's "Islamic terrorism" policy. No doubt, Bwook et. al. would have Poland import millions of Mohammedan savages. Their detachment from reality is complete.

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