#MOGA! The Interview - Make Objectivism Great Again!

Bruno Turner's picture
Submitted by Bruno Turner on Sat, 2017-09-09 15:24

Ladies and Gents, here it is! The long awaited interview has hit Youtube. From the video's description:

"Dinky little savages": that's what Ayn Rand called them...

Obleftivists would have you believe even dinky little savages have the inalienable and absolute "right to travel" and settle into civilized Western countries.

The so-called "Ayn Rand" Institute has converged, alongside the Cato Institute and other Koch brothers funded organizations, with the cultural marxists. They can now properly be called Obleftivists.

My guest today is Lindsay Perigo himself, the author of the MOGA open letter (http://www.solopassion.com/nod...).

MOGA's opening statement is a quote from the great lady herself and here I share it with you:

"For decades, the ‘liberals’ have regarded ‘nationalism’ as an arch-evil of capitalism. They denounced national self-interest—they permitted no distinction between intelligent patriotism and blind, racist chauvinism, deliberately lumping them together—they smeared all opponents of internationalist doctrines as ‘reactionaries,’ 'fascists’ or ‘isolationists'—and they brought this country to a stage where expressions such as ‘America First’ became terms of opprobrium." —Ayn Rand

And further, Perigo tells us:

"Obleftivism seems blind to the cultural ravages of unfettered immigration by ideological aliens; indifferent to, possibly even unaware of (from the smug safety of walled, white, well-guarded gated communities) the robberies, assaults, rapes and beheadings perpetrated by them."

I invite everyone to read the entire statement, which you can find here: http://www.solopassion.com/nod...

I know you want more MOGA, so here's a link to my special video series dedicated entirely to the open letter: https://www.youtube.com/playli...

Thank you for watching!! Remember, it's MOGA time. Join us in the open discussion over at solopassion.com !

I'll see you soon. Remember to Like this video, Subscribe to this channel, and MOST IMPORTANTLY: SHARE THIS VIDEO AND MAKE IT GO VIRAL!

Let the sound of Lindsay Perigo's call to arms reach all those still enchanted by Obleftivist lies! Expose Obleftivism for what it truly is.


Luke

Lindsay Perigo's picture

I'd encourage you to draw his attention to Bruno's videos and the burgeoning rebellion against Obleftivism. I'm sure he already knows, but it doesn't hurt to ram it home. These people are evil treasonists, and need to know we're onto them.

No More Contact

Luke Setzer's picture

Linz, no, no more word. I opted not to pursue a dialog with the CEO despite his invitation. It sounded slippery. I still get their periodic e-mail newsletters.

Luke

Lindsay Perigo's picture

We need a thousand more videos like this one to raise awareness of the creeping contradictions that have infiltrated the orthodoxy. Great damage has come from mediocre minds riding her coattails for cash from unsavory sources. Sad!

Actually, no we don't. This one will suffice, if people just take the trouble to address the substance of it. I'm frankly out of patience with folk who applaud this video but say nothing about its content. I know it's a challenge to contemporary attention spans, but surely we're not that far gone?! Let's try just the intrinsicist view of rights for starters. Or the on-its-face corrupt evil of Yawon's capitulation to Islam in the name of Ayn Rand. Is that so hard?!

PS: Luke, did you ever hear any more from your contact at ARI, the one who said they're not "globalists"?

Racket on Stilts

Lindsay Perigo's picture

"Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket."

ARISIS is a racket on stilts. Yawon gets paid half a million a year to say, in the name of Ayn Rand, Muslims in Europe are mere "pests" and the weal thweat to Western Civilisation is Donald Twump. I don't begin to understand why rank-and-file Objectivists are not rioting in the streets over this. The man's an evil crook. Binswanker, Warts, Gouty ... they're all evil. They have sold out Objectivism for who knows how much to who knows which highest bidder. Filth!

MOGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Racket

Kyrel Zantonavitch's picture

Luke -- Blue-collar philosopher Eric Hoffer called it in 1967:

"Up to now, America has not been a good milieu for the rise of a mass movement. What starts out here as a mass movement ends up as a racket, a cult, or a corporation."

Frequently this is rendered as:

"Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket."

Scholastic Objectivism

Kyrel Zantonavitch's picture

Brant -- No, it's Scholastic Objectivism. Very limited, effete, and denuded of its natural power and magnificence.

In conclusion all that needs to be said

Brant Gaede's picture

is that there is nothing radical in Objectivist Orthodoxy--that it isn't Objectivism; that it isn't Ayn Rand.

--Brant

Investigative Journalism

Luke Setzer's picture

Many thanks to you both for taking the time and effort to post this stinging analysis. Viewers need to be aware of the "name-tagging" fallacy, namely that "the label is not the thing." With respect to the "official" users of the name of Ayn Rand, just because a publication has the name "Ayn Rand Institute" (ARI) on it ultimately means nothing.

We need a thousand more videos like this one to raise awareness of the creeping contradictions that have infiltrated the orthodoxy. Great damage has come from mediocre minds riding her coattails for cash from unsavory sources. Sad!

I would like to see a future video of investigative journalism tracing these sources, their quantities of donations, and the skewing effects these have had on the content of publications from these "libertarian" organizations. Most importantly, we need to answer the question: "Who profits in what ways from making ideas such as 'open borders' into mainstream cultural thought?"

Hurrah!!!!

Kasper's picture

Brought tears to my eyes.

#MOGA! The Interview - Make Objectivism Great Again!

Chanakya's picture

@Bruno, @Lindsay,

Nice interview.

Grazie Olivia!

Lindsay Perigo's picture

Bruno and Linz,
what makes this interview great is that you two are amusingly fun together as well as enlightening - a wonderful combination - and a rare one... especially in Objectivist circles which are usually so goddamn dry.

Aren't they just? The essence of Objecti-anal-retentivism!

We had fun. But the serious point of it all—that OrgOism has been hijacked by conscious evil, in the form of Obleftivist Islamo-Marxism as propounded by Yawon Bwook and ARISIS—must be treated in deadly earnest. Obleftivism is an unspeakably vile, ignoble perversion of a noble philosophy.

MOGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just want to say....

Olivia's picture

Bruno and Linz,
what makes this interview great is that you two are amusingly fun together as well as enlightening - a wonderful combination - and a rare one... especially in Objectivist circles which are usually so goddamn dry.

Excellent

gregster's picture

You both make a compelling case against ARISIS. Peikoff was OK a few years ago standing against that immigration bill but he's been shuffled out. He lacked courage to argue with Brook then. Brook hushed him up within that one joint-evil podcast.

Is something for good or for evil? Is the supposed right of a "dinky little savage" significant in one's values hierarchy, or is it a value to firstly preserve your enlightenment culture? Is de-fanged christianity combined with "nationalism" really a greater threat than hordes of "dinky little savages" invading to exploit your ill-judged goodwill, and to take over and impose their own barbarism?

Rand undoubtedly would disown all of Orgoism.

Now there is one word—a single word—which can blast the morality of altruism out of existence and which it cannot withstand—the word: “Why?” Why must man live for the sake of others? Why must he be a sacrificial animal? Why is that the good? There is no earthly reason for it—and, ladies and gentlemen, in the whole history of philosophy no earthly reason has ever been given.

It is only mysticism that can permit moralists to get away with it. It was mysticism, the unearthly, the supernatural, the irrational that has always been called upon to justify it—or, to be exact, to escape the necessity of justification. One does not justify the irrational, one just takes it on faith. What most moralists—and few of their victims—realize is that reason and altruism are incompatible.

Excellent Interview

Neil Parille's picture

Thanks Bruno and Linz.

The Ascent of Man and the Philosophy

Kyrel Zantonavitch's picture

I agree with Olivia. This is a great conversation about issues which really matter! Smiling The Objectivist Movement and Community needs to have one like this every week! It's lame and failed if it doesn't, or if it's deeply afraid of such a thing. Let's challenge all authorities and accepted Objectivist wisdom; let's see which views and arguments can stand up to scrutiny! No more abuse, censorship, and excommunication of Randian "dissidents", i.e., those who actually think about Objectivism and take its various claims and analyses seriously. How sad and weak if The Atlas Society and The Ayn Rand Institute have no such real and serious discussions and debates!

I'm going to savor this conversation and listen to it slowly. I've only perused the first 12 minutes so far. But here's my initial reaction:

I think the goal of the current Objectivist Movement and Community is not to "make Objectivism great again" but to "make Objectivism great" for the first time ever. And neither TAS nor ARI seem up to the job.

The Objectivist philosophy, properly considered and applied, in my view, leads to a vivacious, dynamic, and heroic life of great excitement, pleasure, and joy. But it needs to be applied with principle and passion. Not the dry, dull stuff of TAS, nor the weird, malicious, cult stuff of ARI. To give the devil his due, ARI's version of Objectivism at least has a type of nervous energy and frenzy to it, which counts for something. But it seems so pedantic and unhealthy overall. I think that, as individuals and society, we need a Third Way.

I managed to watch...

Olivia's picture

this before running off to work this morning. Magnificent bastards both of you!! A great interviewer and a great interviewee discussing topics which really matter. Well done Bruno and Linz! I look forward to many more.

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