E4 - not-Americans @ ARI, Nazis, and Chinese Communists

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Submitted by Bruno on Tue, 2018-10-23 15:34

The Bruno e Linzio Transmission - Weekly - Episode 4

Big Business and Evil, The Man in the High Castle vs Atlas Shrugged, Communist China and Yaron Brook, The Ayn Rand Institute's non-Americans

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Doug, you just call into

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Doug, you just call into Molyneux, we'd love to hear about what kind of horrible childhood and bad choices in life made you so bitter and nasty.

You are seemingly obsessed with the past, and if you think Italy will become minority Italian, you are totally not paying attention.

If it is in fact such a value to you, please do tell us how many pearl white children you've produced.

I am perfectly fine with black, white, jewish, and whatever else, people segregating if that is their wish, which more often than not it is. I am most certainly *not* okay with the *government* sterilizing people. I am not a leftist. Proper libertarian solutions to undesirable people are physical separation and ostracism.

As Hans Hoppe described, libertarian societies would be very "intolerant", and that sounds perfectly fine to me. There would be "very tolerant" areas in the metropoleis probably. But neither would have the right to interfer with the other. The US government's ban on freedom of association is a massive and inexcusable use of force against its citizens.

Small, self-governing and independent countries (city-states and ethno-states) are a civilized and peaceful solution. A "Global Balkanization" if you like. I can expand on this point later if anyone wants an explanation as to why I would say that and seemingly cheer it on. Maybe on a future B&L Transmission.

"My dear Italy" (I'm a secessionist, dear "Italy" not so much) is only half my home, and I am not worried about it in the least. I am much more worried about the Peach State becoming unrecognizable and blowing up Stone Mountain.

No, Doug. I don't want "Global Somalia-zation". But that doesn't mean I will go down whatever road it is that you have. I do not and will never support a socialist state. You say I am going down a "right wing" rabbit hole. That may be my case, but it isn't yours. If you sympathize for Hitler you are not of the Right, you are a Leftist. An imperialist, globalist, german-supremacist Leftist. Get a grip. Europe doesn't want to be swamped by the third world? It will close its borders. Easy Peasy. What the fuck is all this Hitler garbage about?

Oh yeah, I forgot - Pat Buchanan...

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and the Unnecessary Second World War. If only Hitler had been more appeased...

And women still shouldn't vote.

Neither should Jew haters and nameless pussies who live in their Mother’s basements.

oh please

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"Do us the favour of reading Douglas Murray’s The Strange Death of Europe."

There are better books by better authors and I've read them.

And women still shouldn't vote.

What tripe ...

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Olivia may be a race bind Randian that doesn't see race or gender but just "achievement" and individuals. But her daughter and grand children will not have that luxury. I don't say that with joy. I say that with great sadness. You people may call me the fascist nutjob or whatever. But truth is I have a far great soul than any of you.

Great soul? Don’t make me laugh dickhead... I mean Uncle Adolf.

Those of us with children (and a future we leave behind) are highly conscious of the Western world going awry, more than I wager you have ever given any thought to. But the answers don’t lie in the direction you would like to take us in.

Look at Candace Owens right now... doing as much for her country as she is for her race. The likes of her know that race has fuck all to do with anything anymore. Races are still influenced by ideas - and that we are living in a time where the race card has been used as a trump card by the Left (the party of Slavery), again and again. When will you get it through you thick race-obsessed skull that ideas are human, not race based. Sure, I’ll grant you that the best ideas were brought to the world by the Anglo Saxon races (from Greece, Rome and Jerusalem, then synthesised during the Renaissance), that is very clear, but race is not their most essential element. It’s the human element which matters.

The West lost its belief in itself, not by losing its racial superiority, but by becoming tired of fighting for ideas, especially after the horrors of the Two World Wars which were white upon white violence... violence and generations of of young men culled within white Christendom itself.

The immigration factor has coincided exactly and dramatically with this “tiredness” for fighting for ideas among whites. Even Nietzsche spoke about it in the 19th century...the weariness. If white culture sells itself down the fucking river, white culture bears the blame. Brown culture just takes advantage of white stupidity and its lack of belief in itself.

Do us the favour of reading Douglas Murray’s The Strange Death of Europe.

Olivia's Banality

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Lincoln was right to assert that a 'house divided against itself cannot stand'... and slavery was a great evil which many even in the South were highly aware of, Jefferson included. If ever there were a can of barbarity kicked down the road inevitably bringing about a war, that was it! I cannot see how allowing the Southern states to secede would’ve been a wiser or less brutal option.

This is why woman shouldn't be allowed to vote. Bruno gave you a very well thought out answer that you really don't deserve. The above view is sentimental nonsense (but what else from a woman). And in light of the cesspool that is multi-racial modern America, that you can hold such views shows that your intellectual maturation stopped at high school which is when you probably read your bible; ie "Alas Shrugged".

Ayn Rand's "50 dictatorships are no better than one" nonsense is of the same quality, or should I say lack of it. I can't believe that at one point in my life I thought Objectivists were educated. Jesus Christ, was I living in a bubble.

Kyrel again....

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Olivia -- You write: "Trump hating Kyrel". You know that's not true. Everyone else does too. So why say it? As I've expressed almost infinitely: Trump is far, far from a libertarian or capitalist; but he's also much more so than the majority of Republicans and Americans.

Since his campaigning for his election in 2016, you have constantly criticised him for not being the the perfect John Galt.

History is never changed by those who are perfect, only those who boldly act, warts and all. You should know this!

The fact that you have on many occasions taken time out of your day to criticise him, in common with the thousands of other media outlets around the world who obsess with this single-minded purpose in mind, shows that you are no friend of President Trump’s. Didn’t you recently try to start your own Political Party? When you have a powerful Pro-American values President in your daily reality? Friendly to Israel, tax slashing, regulation slashing, friendly to business, border protecting, hostile to postmodern bullshit President Trump? It doesn’t get any better than this!

Don’t waste my time pretending to ignore your previous statements. Instead, read through your writings posted here on Solo. Monitor your own damn comments!! Don’t be an absent-minded flake!

"You want to forcibly

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"You want to forcibly sterilize people? You're disgusting and evil. End of story."

You're ignorant of how Europe, especially Northern Europe rose. They culled their underclass. This has been established scientifically. The rise of Europe is only partly an intellectual phenomenon; "the Enlightenment" that Randroids love to extol. The rise was a genetic phenomenon. The English of the 1200s had crime rates equivalent to black inner city ghettos of today. But after all the capital punishment, the most violent and impulsive were *culled* from the gene pool. Do you know what this means Bruno? Animal husbandry. That's right. Europe DOMESTICATED its humans to a greater extent than other races (along with North East Asians but they are a more complicated phenomenon).

I'm not for violent eugenics but *positive eugenics* as they say. Attach welfare subsidies (which admittedly are going to be necessary unless you favor total extermination which I don't - bad karma) to sterilization of the underclasses and limit lower class breeding to one child. You know during the 1020s America had actually implemented some of this. Race realism was dominating (later to be slandered "scientific racism" mostly by Jewish intellectuals; ie Boaz, Gould, etc.), sterilizations were being implemented in the prisons and immigration had been ended. Then the Left came to dominate and Jews came to wield great institutional power and you got the Judeo-Anglo progressive alliance (both left and right progressives - right progressives being the "neo-Cons") that now controls America. We've suffered ever since.

Bruno, you've gone down the right wing bunny hole only partially. But as I keep saying, you're young. When you wake up one day in your 50s and you see your beloved Italy becoming a brown shithole and you see your Muslim, Asian, Arabic and African fellow "Italians", then you will look back on your Randian youth very differently than you currently see it. The New Zealanders on this forum are also living in a still roughly 90% white country. But that will not hold. The left will see to that.

Olivia may be a race bind Randian that doesn't see race or gender but just "achievement" and individuals. But her daughter and grand children will not have that luxury. I don't say that with joy. I say that with great sadness. You people may call me the fascist nutjob or whatever. But truth is I have a far great soul than any of you. And I am crying for the increasing destruction of the white world and the liberty oriented achievements it created. You can't save it with any race blind philosophy. Especially a biologically ignorant one like Objectivism.

Uncle Adolf

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"if these shows have managed to invite the criticism of the nameless pussy who poses as the fascist Doug"

Please, call me Uncle Adolf.

"then I think it's safe to assume you’re doing something very right."

He gets a number of important things right. But I don't think he realizes how close he is to rejecting Objectivism totally. He's young yet. If he's going this far outside the mainstream in his 20s, I can tell you from experience that by his 40s and beyond he will move farther to the right. Especially as the European world becomes browner, which the left is working night and day to make a reality. With the help of open borders libertarians and Objectivists I must add.

But you Olivia, a 50 year old woman still mouthing the same slogans as a teenage Randian? And you call me a "nameless pussy". lol

Kyrel...

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You do use a verbose style which should be tamed if your goal is to be a good writer.

I struggled to get through 'Pure, Liberal, Fire' for this exact reason - it can be very off putting when writers don’t select adjectives well and just list too many. It’s intellectually lazy to do this as a writer. It’s a shame because there are some very good ideas worth reading in your book.

Example (because I know you’ll ask for one - and I have your book on my Kindle), in Chapter 2: “Theoretical Reality”, the opening paragraph reads:

The universe is simple, clean, pure and one. It isn’t in any real or important sense, instance, respect, or aspect contradictory, confused broken down, or split up. The universe doesn’t compete, conflict, or clash with itself; nor does it destroy, diminish or disregard itself.

In the next paragraph you write:

.... Rather, everything in the universe and all its constituent parts are at peace, harmonious, integrated, symmetrical, coincident, reinforcing, complimentary, supplementary, and coexistent with everything else inside it.

You do this stressed listing of adjectives and concepts all through the book. A writer has to make choices. Your failure to do so demonstrates your refusal/inability to choose words carefully - and that taxes the reader's patience immensely.

Have you heard the phrase from Shakespeare “Brevity is the soul of wit”?

All writers should strive for that talent in their sentences. Style is extremely important, not just content.

You could have combined those first two paragraphs to make the idea clearer:

The universe is simply One. It is not contradictory, nor split, in a very important respect. The universe does not compete with itself. Rather, everything in the universe with all its constituent parts reinforces its integrated harmony.

Now, my writing consultation fee is 150 dollars per hour. I’m not sure what Mr. Duck charges. If he’s free, perhaps you could thank him for having the courtesy to be so honest with you. Smiling

Flabby

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PhilipD -- Well, at least you backed your claim with a bit of evidence, for once! But only because I shamed you into it. You won't repeat that for years, I imagine! Many others won't either. Smiling

Meanwhile, I pretty much back all of my claims with evidence and reason. Not too flabby! The ubiquitous ad hominems you and others flabbily engage in are for Randroids and intellectual weaklings -- not me.

It's interesting that you consider the powerful, flamboyant, and stylized way I write as "flabby". It could easily be described as above.

I have no idea where you got the above quote, by the way. You didn't provide a citation or link. Very shabby and flabby.

I never stated I was "a wordsmith of rare quality" "a number of times" or even once. That's not my style.

Anyway, I like ideas. I primarily focus on content -- not style.

Still, why not employ an interesting and distinctive mode of expression? Most of my favorite writers do. I try to as well.

Well, OK, only because it

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Well, OK, only because it amuses me.

You wrote: 'For the sake of womankind, and indeed the whole planet, these inhuman beasts and subhuman monsters need to be immediately and utterly exterminated.'

Why not: 'For the sake of womankind and the planet, these beasts need to be exterminated.'

Why the need for beasts and monsters in the same sentence? What does it add? And is a monster anything other than subhuman?

Why 'utterly exterminated,' and not just 'exterminated?'

As I said: Flabby.

Same meaning, more strength, in 14 words, instead of your original 23. Applies to everything I read of yours.

Others may disagree.

The subject of 'writing short' is interesting. However, as you have stated a number of times, you are a wordsmith of rare quality. Therefore the above is unlikely to be of use to you. Although you might consider how many brilliant writers claim, as you do, that they have never written a single flabby sentence. Smiling

Flabby?

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PhilipD -- You wrote:

"Kyrel...whose own writing is so flabby."

Please provide a single instance of this. A single sentence, even. I have little hope you will.

But it isn't valid criticism if you don't provide any substance to your evaluation, is it? It certainly isn't helpful to me. How can I get better (and less flabby) if you don't back your claims with a bit of evidence or a few examples? Please tell me which one of my essays, paragraphs, or sentences (even) is weak. I'm also curious as to who you think I should emulate.

Personally, I find my essays quite muscular, and low in flab. My short stories too! Smiling

Narcissism

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Lindsay -- It's not infantiley narcissistic to practice a foreign language in public, while viewers vainly seek to hear and understand a good show? But it is to question such a thing? It's ADD to be impatient with such? And you really think your power to concentrate goes beyond my own? I bet I love and hate on a level you're not even familiar with.

What other t'v' or YouTube show of any type spends 3 or 4 minutes with an irrelevant foreign language lesson or exposition? And what is your opinion of those shows which do? Does such verbiage enhance the video, or welcome the viewer?

The show is quite good. The Italian portions may be less so than you think.

Olivia

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Brutal for sure was the war itself, there is no disputing that. Other European countries never had to slaughter each other in order to end slavery, so it is not at all proven that there "had to be" a war in order for slavery to eventually end. It is quite plausible that slavery would end relatively soon thereafter in the South, just as it ended in the rest of the European world. That's as far as the argument for the inevitability of war for slavery.

As far as the war being fought "to end slavery", I think this is historically inaccurate. While slavery certainly was very important to the South, I don't think that was the reason for the war, and many historians have been revisiting the subject and have given more plausible explanations. Jefferson was a decentralist, he was against a massive federal government. Lincoln set the stage for what became of the USA, no longer individual states united, but a single "country" where the central government has become vastly stronger and more tyrranical and has betrayed the Founder's vision.

We can disagree on the South, but the main principle at play in all of these secessionist examples as I see it, is that you cannot force people who do not want to live with each other to do so, and "imposing freedom" on foreign countries has never worked, yet we continue attempting to do so to this day. The "liberating" belief leads to imperial expansion, which eventually leads to the downfall of the original country and despotism. All great military expansionists have been driven by a sense of a grand moral crusade, starting with Alexander Magnus, going all the way to Napoleon, and, yes, Lincoln. It always leads to massive bloodshed and the curtailment of individual liberty.

Ayn Rand's somewhat incoherent political theory, can easily be fitted to a universalist, globalist empire, which governs the world according to the idea of individual rights. Her objection to globalism was purely on the grounds of "checks and balances", i.e. global government would be good if only we could keep it good, but the risk of it becoming tyrannical is too great. As we can see very very clearly today however, nation-states are functional only insofar as the people feel united. The United States has become a territory of warring tribes with little to no respect for each other as all being part of the same people, because in fact they are not one people but many.

Nationalism in this sense will always be somewhat "tribal" in Ayn Rand's view and hence she in the end fundamentally disapproved of secession. She was against separating Canada between the English-speaking and the French-speaking, she was pro-bilingualism. She strongly disapproved of the re-arrangement of the European political map based on ethnic lines. She was wrong. This re-arrangement is what leads to peace between peoples. Keeping different tribes together through force can only be attained through absolutist monarchies or other forms of anti-democratic systems. Democracy in a multi-ethnic society becomes an ethnic head-count at the ballots, each group wishing to impose itself on the other. Ayn Rand pointed to Switzerland as a functional bilingual state, this shows how little again she understood Europe. Switzerland works thanks to the division in very small cantons with very very decentralized powers and an almost non-influential central government, where each canton in fact does have its borders drawn essentially on linguistic and ethnic grounds. Everyone "leaves each other alone" at the end of the day, and that's why it has so far been working well.

Californians and other coastal areas literally hate the internal. They do not dislike them, they hate them. A new poll recently has shown that among people who identify as liberals, they have better feelings towards foreigners than towards fellow white Americans. This situation is exactly the kind of situation where peaceful separation is warranted, either through drastic decentralization of powers or through complete separation. The alternative is what we see now, extremely bellicose politics, a massive increase in politically motivated violence and harassment, and the federal government having to impose itself very strongly. So far so good, because "our side" is in the oval office. When the sides switch back again it won't be pretty. The political situation in America is altogether very precarious because of tribalism, the tribalism of a multi-cultural country. The "tribalism" of nationalism is much preferrable, and is in fact the breeding ground of Western societal values. Individualism is easy when everyone is part of your own tribe around you. Individualism becomes increasingly self-destructive once you invite alien groups to your country, who will inevitably want to impose their own way of life through the ballot box.

The Founders were aware of the perils of having a divided country. But you do not unite a country through military subjugation. The more the Spanish government imposes itself on the Catalans, the stronger the resistance, and the eventual violence. Paraphrashing Von Mises, self-determination of peoples is essential, the right to be with who you wish to be with, and the ideal progression is towards individual self-determination of all individual men. The expansion of centralized political power destroys is almost always a bad thing. Compared to the empires of the past, the American seems like it will have a much much shorter lifespan, and the massive massive numbers of foreign immigrants constantly pouring into the country is the main culprit. They disintegrate the unity and cohesion of the body politic. If you ever happen to visit small rural communities, what you almost inevitably see is a very high-trust society, with doors being left open, cars being left around with the keys inside, and a very altogether tranquil and non-violent situation. Of course there always will be and should be large metropolitan cities, but if the city grows too large in foreign populations it will eventually become the enemy of its original countrymen in rural areas, and come to wish to impose its will through force on them.

Wha?

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Olivia -- You write: "Trump hating Kyrel". You know that's not true. Everyone else does too. So why say it? As I've expressed almost infinitely: Trump is far, far from a libertarian or capitalist; but he's also much more so than the majority of Republicans and Americans.

Criticism

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Bruno -- You wrote:

"We do anything but "abuse your time", Kyrel, we make a thirty minute weekly show. I say again, thirty minutes in a week. If you don't like, me ne frego. I'm not your customer, I don't get paid to do this. If you had voiced your criticism respectfully maybe I would have listened more openly. Manners are just gone. Language now is ugly both in sound and in form"

Please go back and reread what I wrote. I think I did voice my criticism respectfully. I did show manners. I wasn't ugly in sound or form. As a matter of fact, I'm essentially never disrespectful or discourteous to anyone. Even to people who are wildly so to me. The examples of that here on Solo Passion are almost infinite. Please go back and reread anything I wrote ever. I'm always the most well-mannered person in the room. I do, however, come to the point, and try to say things which are relevant and important. But I'm a radical, even by Objectivist standards. So please don't expect me to think, speak, or act as others do. That won't happen and you shouldn't want it to.

If you actually read what I very briefly wrote, you'll see I was mostly asking questions. The rest was making suggestions. I don't know of any other YouTube show which starts out in a foreign language which 95% or more of your actual and target audience doesn't understand. What do you think the impact of that is? What is the impact upon yourself when you encounter it in other shows?

I bet anything you viewership goes up if you start off strong and in English. I bet your show will become objectively better too. I've repeatedly praised your show already on Solo Passion and YouTube. I subscribe to your channel and always hit the "like" button. I defend and promote it non-stop. You may not realize this, but true friends and allies are often those who try to tell others what they need to hear and which is the relevant and important truth.

I want your show to succeed. Maybe the show would do better and be better if people could comprehend it more, especially initially.

Bruno...

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Your comment:

The South should have been able to secede from the Union, leftist Scotland should leave the UK...

I would love for you to elaborate on this.

The Founding Fathers chose a Union after they won the Revolutionary war, in fact they chose it in order to fight a Revolutionary war. Lincoln was right to assert that a 'house divided against itself cannot stand'... and slavery was a great evil which many even in the South were highly aware of, Jefferson included. If ever there were a can of barbarity kicked down the road inevitably bringing about a war, that was it! I cannot see how allowing the Southern states to secede would’ve been a wiser or less brutal option.

Blander

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"Eugenic sterilization is absolutely necessary if you are going to have liberty..."

Face meet palm.

Victor Suvorov's Icebreaker and Stalin: The Chief Culprit are excellent but he would be horrified about their being used to promote neo-nazi theory.

Guys and Gals

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Well Bruno, in the world of Transjectivism: guys = non-guys and gals = non-gals and A = non-A.

'...you're going to

PhilipD's picture

'...you're going to self-indulgently waste his time and abuse him right from the start...'

Rude.

And odd, Kyrel, coming from one whose own writing is so flabby.

Keep it up Bruno and Linzio.

Instructive

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Kyrel can't concentrate for long enough to hate Trump; just for long enough to be irritated by Italian dialogue that actually, if he overcame his Narcisstic ADD for a minute and a half, would educate him.

Bruno has brought up *yooooooooooooooooooge* points here which, notwithstanding infantile Narcissists, we shall pursue in the next episode.

Frankly...

Olivia's picture

if these shows have managed to invite the criticism of the nameless pussy who poses as the fascist Doug and also the Trump hating Kyrel, then I think it's safe to assume you’re doing something very right.

Criticism

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Linzio wants to show off his Italian skills, which are excellent by the way. Very good pronunciation. We love diversity, when it's from the home of the Renaissance. And we love the cradle of the Roman Empire, especially when it's coming back in full force, while the US insist(s ) (the singular signals the problem right there) on self-destructing.

We do anything but "abuse your time", Kyrel, we make a thirty minute weekly show. I say again, thirty minutes in a week. If you don't like, me ne frego. I'm not your customer, I don't get paid to do this. If you had voiced your criticism respectfully maybe I would have listened more openly. Manners are just gone. Language now is ugly both in sound and in form

As for alt-retard Secondo, take your gamma whining somewhere else. I already listened to that Darkstream, it's old, and I can assure you I do not follow a single one of the names you mentioned. Unlike you, however, I have not become an anti-Israel lunatic. You're just as bad as the whiny "minorities" blaming whitey for all their problems. Grow a fucking spine you weasel. You're gonna lose your job at some multinational corporation because of your views? Boo-fucking-hoo! That's the problem with you people, you say you "care" but you don't. If you silence yourself because of social pressure you are nothing but a second-hander social metaphysician. Fake Right alt-retards.

You want to forcibly sterilize people? You're disgusting and evil. End of story. So much talk of Hoppe yet you understanding nothing. Physical Removal is the whole point. Political decentralization, freedom of association, secession. The only thing I walk back is that talk about importing the best chinese. I am now starting to see that it would be yet another multiculty mistake.

Israel is not a threat, it is a model. Do what they do at the Gaza border at the Mexico border. Problem solved. As for "liberal jews", just boot out California from the union. Along with the Anti-Rand Institute, and the rest of the "wealthy" fucking lunatics and the third world hordes who live there. I've said this since the very beginning. How many of you have picked up on California needing to (be) secede(d)? Oh, I forgot, you love your stupid "sunny southern califooornia". Gross.

Ayn Rand was completely flat out wrong on "balkanization". Secession and nationalism are beautiful. Globalism in any form is both esthetically distasteful and societally destructive. The South should have been able to secede from the Union, leftist Scotland should leave the UK, Catalonia should leave Spain, and most importantly Lombardy and Venice should leave Italy and fast become the cradle of a new European Renaissance.

"Objectivists" obsessed with money money money are nothing but filthy little Peter Keatings and Gayl Winands. Nation, cultural harmony, and security, come before "fwee twade and fwee movement of peoples". And that's why Yawon and you too don't care about China dominating half the world, and I do. I don't care if I have to pay more for my shoes if it means making them in the civilized world, without enabling orwellian dictatorships and third world warlords.

National self-interest means national self-interest. It does not mean hedge fund manager interests, it does not mean Carribean tax evadors interest, it does not mean "your poor and huddled masses'" interest. America First. End of story. Raise those goddamn tarriffs and slash all other here-at-home taxes.

The most hideous evil perpetrated by "Objectivists" is a rewriting of American history. Or rather the parroting of false narratives about American history. Ayn Rand was guilty of this as well, albeit she is justified qua genius in so many other ways. America is a nation, it is not a fucking "idea" in some platonic realm. It is a nation which had embraced good ideas, and the same could and should happen elsewhere in the future.

Nationalism means that there can and should be different flavors of "libertarianism" in different nations. Each culture should adapt national self-interest and free enterprise into their own system. A capitalist India should look differently, very differently, from a capitalist Sweden. That is the true "diversity" we should be able to see. Egoist morals? They also can and should adapt differently in different cultures. This is obvious. Human Nature 101.

Americans have lost touch with their human nature, they tell themselves so many lies and force themselves to believe them. They really "think" that they are a nation of immigwants and that the somali and guatemalans who have been there for five years and have taken some silly ceremony are just as "American" as they are. Total and complete lunacy. Come to "nativist" (when did putting the citizens first become bad?) Italy, take a vacation through the mountains, and hills, and small towns. A beautiful and enriching experience. Not fucking McDonald's and Walmart and all the rest of this globalist crap people like Bwook and Binswanker adore. They are moral and cultural troglodytes.

Immigrants should be allowed, only when in line with the national interest. And no, they should not get citizenship five or ten years later. If they marry an American and have children, there you go, there's a new American born. Otherwise, just give out permanent visas. That's it. That's how it should be done. However, the demographic situation is so bad in America that nothing other than zero net immigration for decades to come, and massive deportation of illegals, will suffice.

Incomprehensible

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Bruno and Lindsay -- I wonder if you guys realize how off-putting all the foreign language is at the beginning? It's like you don't care about the listener and you're going to self-indulgently waste his time and abuse him right from the start -- and maybe all the way thru too. Why not say good stuff at the very beginning, and make the show worth listening to, even in the first few minutes?

Guys?

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Thanks, Grant!

I'm not sure I do know what you did there though. Is calling guys guys sexist now or something? I don't get it!

Largely Garbage

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A lot of garbage in this interview.

Regarding the eugenics movement in America in the early 1900s: It was largely right. Eugenic sterilization is absolutely necessary if you are going to have liberty let alone the purified versions libertarians want. Sterilizing the underclasses of the low IQ races is going to have to happen or the planet is going to become a brown cesspool. How it should be done can be debated. I think attaching welfare subsidies to sterilization is the most benevolent way: small welfare subsidies given to the lower classes only if they are sterilized or are limited to one child. That's about the most benevolent way.

Regarding China: Jesus, Israel is a far more dangerous country. Linz and Bruno are taking the NeoCon position (big surprise) that the American empire is necessary to counter Chinese aggression. That said when America has 800 bases in over 100 countries and China doesn't even have a small fraction of that. Objectivists are imperialists. The Austrians are right when they say that. And there are right wing reasons to oppose American imperialism, especially when the US is governed by an evil elite comprised of Leftists, Neo Cons, Neo liberals and deranged Jews.

Regarding censorship: American society is repressive in its own way. Try being a racialist today and see what type of public life you can lead. China is in theory more repressive than America, in practice its a difference of degree. China is not the great evil on this planet. White, race blind leftists are, as well as their enablers which include Neo Cons, mainstream Conservatives, movement Conservatives, most libertarians (Hoppeans excepted) and 99% of Randians.

Mark Levin? Jesus Christ Lindsey. Read Pat Buchanan at least. My god, what crap you people read. Levin, Malkin, Hannity, Ingram, Shapiro, etc. Movement Conservative garbage.

Regarding Hitler: had his flaws (but was also right about a number of things) but it still would have been better had America never entered the war (just the same as the way it would have been better if the South had been allowed to secede) and leave Europe to create its own borders (through war or whatever means). Also Hitler may have saved Europe from Soviet conquest. Google up the Suvorov thesis, Vox talks about it here:

https://voxday.blogspot.com/20...

Hitler will be re-evaluated by future historians. He is a more complicated figure than you would think, especially if you read the garbage by Peikoff (an ignorant ideologue). If the white race goes on to become extinct through outbreeding, think of how right Hitler actually was.

As I said, this podcast is filled with a ton of Neo Con garbage even if it is anti-immigrant invasion and offers a more sane view of Kant and Plato. But you people are not that different from the Obleftivsits you say you oppose. At least not from where I'm sitting.

Great Job Guys

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I called you "guys." See what I did there?

This is your best edition yet. You were both on your game and made many important points.

I enjoyed the levity, also. "I know that Nosering!" ROTFLMAO

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