Merry Christmas From Jim Valliant

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Submitted by Neil Parille on Mon, 2018-12-24 23:13

Diamond Jim hasn't shown up at SOLO for years, but he has written a book "Creating Christ" with Casey Fahy.

Here is Jim's most recent interview (from yesterday):

https://metaphysicsofphysics.c...


More From Diamond Jim

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Jim got me banned from a website called (of all things) "Free thinking! now" !!! which posts his interviews.

I agree, Bruno. Hitler

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I agree, Bruno.

Hitler making overtures to Christians isn't akin to Nazism arising from Christianity, so it is despicable to link the two. Hitler disliked Christianity and admired Islam.

I have never seen any Christians doing this:

Nope...

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As far as superstition, it is something Christianity had all but eradicated, but is now in resurgence. Believing in God is not superstition. Believing that black cats are bad luck is.

Christianity eradicated pagan superstition but replaced it with a superstition of its own. Superstition is just belief in supernatural occurrences: the Virgin birth, the Immaculate conception, resurrection from death, the sun standing still over Jericho, talking serpents and donkeys, God writing books through men, Mohammad flying on a winged horse to heaven, etc. All nonsense on steroids. All Jewish/Christian/Islamic superstitions.

Christianity’s great saving grace was its commitment to individual salvation and personal responsibility with the civilisation which those ideas helped to build.
Also, the giving of glory to God via the glorious works of man, which of course brought us great art, music and cultural achievements, never yet to be equaled.

Believing in a God or a prime mover is one thing, believing in an interventionist God who made himself flesh to sacrifice himself for the sins of his own creation is quite another matter.

Link

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Hi Bruno -

Here is the essay I wrote on PARC:

https://www.scribd.com/documen...

EX MOTU

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"It is certain, and evident to our senses, that in the world some things are in motion. Now whatever is in motion is put in motion by another, for nothing can be in motion except it is in potentiality to that towards which it is in motion; whereas a thing moves inasmuch as it is in act. For motion is nothing else than the reduction of something from potentiality to actuality. But nothing can be reduced from potentiality to actuality, except by something in a state of actuality.

Thus that which is actually hot, as fire, makes wood, which is potentially hot, to be actually hot, and thereby moves and changes it.

Now it is not possible that the same thing should be at once in actuality and potentiality in the same respect, but only in different respects. For what is actually hot cannot simultaneously be potentially hot; but it is simultaneously potentially cold. It is therefore impossible that in the same respect and in the same way a thing should be both mover and moved, i.e. that it should move itself. Therefore, whatever is in motion must be put in motion by another. If that by which it is put in motion be itself put in motion, then this also must needs be put in motion by another, and that by another again. But this cannot go on to infinity, because then there would be no first mover, and, consequently, no other mover; seeing that subsequent movers move only inasmuch as they are put in motion by the first mover; as the staff moves only because it is put in motion by the hand. Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God."

Link?

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Neil, I'd like to read that, can you post us a link?

As far as superstition, it is something Christianity had all but eradicated, but is now in resurgence. Believing in God is not superstition. Believing that black cats are bad luck is.

I am delighted that my order of the Summa Theologica by Thomas Aquinas, complete and unabridged version in one volume, has arrived in the mail just a few days ago.

Oblivia

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Maybe you should read what I wrote. James was initially interested in debating me (concerning PARC and CC), but put so many restrictions on the debate the no self-respecting person could accept (sound familiar?).

I actually write a short book discussing PARC (82 pages). Have you read i?

Goblinism

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This is an opportune moment to reiterate that all goblinism, including Goblianity, is superstition, and, as such, nonsense.

James and Casey have a longstanding rational vendetta against Goblianity in particular, going back to James's "Behind the Cross," which I imagine was the precursor to the book currently being discussed and about which I interviewed James for two hours on Radio Live one Easter Friday. Probably still here on SOLO.

The imperative of our particular moment, however, is the fight against Islamogoblinism. James, Casey, Amy, Bwook and ARISIS are intent on deflecting us from that in the interests of Soros and his truly evil globalism. This is just a re-run of "Vote Dem-Scum across the Board" from 2008. It requires precisely the kind of over-focus on Goblianity as opposed to Islamogoblinsm that they are evincing. Do not bother to seek a rational explanation; rather, just follow the money. This is Soros.

Over and above all that, we as purported Objectivists have failed miserably in any effort to address the innermost needs of the human soul that goblinism accommodates. Hard on the heels of a recent major bereavement, I realise this more acutely than ever. I look at the glorious buildings of Goblian worship and wish to become a Goblian there and then. I know of no comparable accomplishment within Objectivism other than by its founder. Her literature is a Cathedral. For the Glory of Man. Let's get on with that! #MOGA!!

That’s easy Neil...

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Debating a Goblian like yourself would be a waste of time... since your premise is one of superstition - you have no way to analyse any truth based on that.
The best way forward for someone like you, Neil, is to write a book of your own and seek debate that way. What you prefer to do is just shit on other peoples' works and efforts and somehow reframe it as an exercise in intellectual debate. That’s the vampire's way... to try to suck the life out of someone else’s effort, while never having to extend the equal effort of research and creation which might match whom you consider to be a worthy opponent. In other words, you are not a worthy opponent or debater worth their effort.

Hope that’s clear enough for one as deluded as you to understand. Smiling

Olivia

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I offered to debate your and Linz's good friend Jim Valliant on PARC and Creating Christ.

Jim and Amy Peikoff put so many restrictions on such a debate that no self respecting person would agree to it.

Why you think his books are so great when he refused to even debate is beyond me.

Olivia

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" Hitler often expressed that he was doing the Lord’s work. In Mein Kampf, he deploys the language of Deism - "Providence, Creator, Lord,” etc, but in certain speeches which he made to the German people he used frank Christian language - remember, the people to whom he was speaking were Roman Catholics, Lutherans and Calvinists. Such as his Munich speech in 1922:
"I would like here to appeal to a greater than I. My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice."

Hitler said in private he disliked Christianity. In his Tabletalk, he said that after the war he would take on the churches.

"I didn’t listen to James speak, I read the transcript and one of the most interesting and true topics discussed in it (and it's little known) is how the Zealots were a major problem for Rome - and also for their fellow Jews. Simon Zelotes (Simon the Zealot) was a disciple of Christ and another disciple, Judas Iscariot, ('Iscariot' from the name ‘Sicarii' - the cut-throat assassins who murdered Romans and collaborating Jews, tax collectors etc) were highly active during this time and were a major problem for the Roman governors, including Pilate. In 70 AD, it was the Zealots who forced Jerusalem to stage a major stand-off against the Romans, resulting in the most hideous starving-out of the Jews under the General Titus, and we all know the story of Masada and their last stand."

The derivation of the names of Simon and Judas Iscariot are disputed. "Zealot" probably just meant one with zeal, not a formal designation. Also, "Iscariot" probably was a place.

"James doesn’t say that Christians were not persecuted, he said that there were smaller pockets of persecution. "

Yes, but he downplays it, citing a ridiculous book (The Myth of Persecution). In any event, how is any persecution of Christians by the Romans consistent with his thesis?

"We know that the Synoptic Gospels were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John but by their descendants and later followers (whoever they were)."

Maybe, but how is that consistent with Jim's thesis? He says they were written out of whole cloth by (I assume) scribes hired by Roman emperors.

"We know that there was no New Testament until Emperor Constantine - and the book of Thomas was excluded, as was the book of Mary Magdalene and others. Therefore it was constructed by human hands, not divine inspiration as Christians like to imagine, largely because of the words of Paul - “all scripture is inspired by God profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God maybe adequately equipped for every good deed.”"

Most if not all of the NT canon was established before Constantine. And maybe there would good reasons to reject Thomas and Mary. Have you read them?

Bruno...

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It was disgustingly dishonest to retrace Hitler to Christianity. What a foul and dispecable lie.

Not so. Hitler often expressed that he was doing the Lord’s work. In Mein Kampf, he deploys the language of Deism - "Providence, Creator, Lord,” etc, but in certain speeches which he made to the German people he used frank Christian language - remember, the people to whom he was speaking were Roman Catholics, Lutherans and Calvinists. Such as his Munich speech in 1922:

"I would like here to appeal to a greater than I. My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.

Then there is the Concordat between the Third Reich and the Vatican, The Reichskonkordat. Never mind that Hitler would persecute Catholics in Germany, the fact that its official leaders acquiesced to the Jew hating Nazis is bloody-well on them... 'Gott Mit Uns’ and all that. Hitler used Christianity against the Jews, for obvious reasons.

I didn’t listen to James speak, I read the transcript and one of the most interesting and true topics discussed in it (and it's little known) is how the Zealots were a major problem for Rome - and also for their fellow Jews. Simon Zelotes (Simon the Zealot) was a disciple of Christ and another disciple, Judas Iscariot, ('Iscariot' from the name ‘Sicarii' - the cut-throat assassins who murdered Romans and collaborating Jews, tax collectors etc) were highly active during this time and were a major problem for the Roman governors, including Pilate. In 70 AD, it was the Zealots who forced Jerusalem to stage a major stand-off against the Romans, resulting in the most hideous starving-out of the Jews under the General Titus, and we all know the story of Masada and their last stand.

James doesn’t say that Christians were not persecuted, he said that there were smaller pockets of persecution.

We know that the Synoptic Gospels were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John but by their descendants and later followers (whoever they were).

We know that Paul (Saul of Tarsus) was the greatest persecutor of early Christians according to the biblical narrative but then mysteriously and mystically became a Christian deeply embedded in the new movement, but still remained a Roman citizen who did not escape custody in Rome when he could’ve (according to the biblical narrative).

We know that there was no New Testament until Emperor Constantine - and the book of Thomas was excluded, as was the book of Mary Magdalene and others. Therefore it was constructed by human hands, not divine inspiration as Christians like to imagine, largely because of the words of Paul - “all scripture is inspired by God profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God maybe adequately equipped for every good deed.”
II Timothy 3.16.

Somebody coordinated all the extraneous, superstitious weirdness and contradictions of the teachings of a first century Jew, which grew into the largest religion of the Roman Empire over a timeline of 450 odd years. James and Casey are onto something here, and the acts of the Jewish zealots matter to it centrally and so do the ancient Romans who eventually adopted it. The Platonic mix of paganism and reinvented Jewish references of the ancient world is clear to me. Is this work by James and Casey just an exercise in revisionist history only? Perhaps, but it’s a much better theory than the prevailing one of calling it "the truth" of how things happened according to the scriptures. That would be just superstitious nonsense only.

I commend them both for their attempt to make rational sense of it.

Absurd

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I agree with Neil. It was completely absurd from start to finish. Classic "Objectivist" rewriting of history (Rand was the first to do so, or more generously she had bad information). The Romans *not* persecuting the Christians is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in quite a while. Also his obsession with "antisemitism", a classic ObLeftivist favorite, is extremely annoying. Not a word about the tragedy caused by fanatics to the Alexandria library. It was disgustingly dishonest to retrace Hitler to Christianity. What a foul and dispecable lie. Unbelievable, until you realize it's an ObLeftivist speaking.

His voice and laughter are also annoying which is always a minus, and the following words were pronounced incorrectly: Idealism (no reason whatsoever to put the stress on the I), Diaspora (stress should be on the I), and arguably Judea (which should be a latin E sound, such as in the English word 'End').

Remember, these are the people who supposedly reject all "conspiracy theories" out of hand. Only those that might actually be plausible, and current, that is. Finding conspiracies two thousand years old is a-okay. Anything that can go against white American Christians. You wouldn't want to enable the "coming theocracy" and all that.

Olivia

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. . . it's better written than PARC (probably because Casey is a co-author) but the book is equally silly.

Thanks for posting this...

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I thoroughly enjoyed that interview with James... Very interesting stuff..and much of it makes a lot of sense. One thing for certain is that the New Testament is a very odd construct, a mish-mash of Pagan and Jewish ideas, ethics and Superstitions.

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