"Can/does the consciousness have a "life" -- even a brief life -- beyond its corporeal existance?"

I have written in response to this specific issue--particularly addressing the reason behind why we entertain such thoughts as "can conscousness [extend] beyond corporeal existance."

I have coined the term "epistemic urges" to describe this behavior. Here's an excerpt from my complete article at http://ergosum.wordpress.com/2...

"human consciousness–as it cannot fathom the notion of nothingness, is forced (or has strong epistemic urges) to imagine some sort of continued existence; because death and non-existence, i.e., nothingness, is simply unfathomable and impossible for human consciousness to imagine; the nature of our minds is such that we are unlimited in what we can think of so long as we think of something, and that we think of ourselves as thinking beings. We are unable to come to a point where nothingness envelops our consciousness such that we can imagine what death and non-existence must really be like.

Since we are incapable of experiencing, or even imagining, what death and not existing must be like, we tend to explore (using our unlimited epistemic capabilities) “after-death” scenarious of our continued existence. And while we are engaged in such flights of imaginative fancies, we might as well fabricate elaborate scenarios that fulfill our hedonistic desires, such as “unending happiness and bliss” in heaven, joy, honey, wine, virgins in heaven; our desire of justice is likewise fulfilled, with evil and rich people banished into hell where they suffer forever, and poor, meek, and good people who “suffer” on Earth are abundantly rewarded in heaven."

Consciousness is an Irreducible Primary element of nature.And there is no creation and destuction of the

irreducible elements.

Hi Ergo,

          You mean Control Urges...

One of the reason why elders don't like to teach their childrens about the existence of our souls is because they like to control their lives.That which is so utterly out of our control like our souls

[Our souls are neither matter nor energy.They cannot be perceived through our 5 senses],we are inclined to think that such things don't exist!You must see that Human Volition is not the Final Thing in this Universe.Our volition is subject to the laws of reality.THAT WHICH EXISTS DOES EXIST NO MATTER WHATEVER OUR WISHES!...SMILING...I see.Folks are still very busy with things here!

Meanwhile here is a Kris pic!

 http://www.krishna.com/ifolio/postcards/0717825219807313.html

                                                      ...smiling...

Also see this - http://krishna.org

 Ok, so I have uploaded a picture of myself here in a new thread!

Please use that for my picture!...smiling...

There are a few things in life that are just undeniably hilarious:

1.) "These go up to 11..." from This is Spinal Tap.

2.) Ted Kennedy slurring his speech in a drunken stupor.

3.) Krishna endlessly holding forth as some kind of god, while at the same time leaving up the "Mola Ram" profile pic from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, which anyone with even an iota of intelligence could figure out how to change on his own.

Because you don't want to accept the things that Do exist!

I see that!...smiling...

no.

You are attemting to make me yawn...smiling...

 But I won't!...laughing...

 Would you kindly define here what is meant by the Metaphysical! Or maybe this is the only word

where you disagree with Ayn Rand! I am not curious about it. But whom are you kidding here?

Ayn Rand or me? ...laughing...

 Please do reply me and don't run away from here!

Maybe Kirshna does need PARC.

---Landon

It all basically comes back to fight or flight.

Yeah, mmkay...you sure you got the right website here, Krishy? Next you'll be quoting Carl JUn-mmm...ne'er mind.

The fact that you can attempt to say such things in the same breath as Ayn Rand shows that Nathaniel Branden has really opened some floodgates. Koestler, hypnosis, Ken Wilbur, what's next, ESP? Seances with Patrecia?

You must see my manner of deriving things.I give explanations for that which does exist!

My explanations are the simplest possible and obvious even to say a kid.

So unless you have more simpler explanations than me the burden of Dissent is on you and not me! Ok! ...smiling...

And could you say something to Andrew Bissel about the wrong picture here! ...smiling...

   And so just as matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed,that it is eternal, so our

consciousness can also be neither created nor destroyed and is eternal in its existence!

We were always there though there was a first time when we entered the genes and assumed our bodies!

Burden of proof. Evidence, please.

still have any Existential problems?

No existential problems. I know who I am.

Only one correction to my writings here!

Like the whole of the universe which was never created in the first place but is given metaphysically,

So is our consciousness or souls.We were always there though there was a first time when we

entered the genes and assumed our bodies!

 This follows from the fact that there can be no universe at any stage without consciousness to be conscious or aware of it.Ayn Rand wrote this in objectivism,or didn't she?...smiling...

 So the Solo members here still have any Existential problems?I hope not!...laughing...

 I think after 4 days I have understood the meaning of your 1st line!...

So have you all run away from here?...smiling...

                                                   ...laughing...

 I didn't get the meaning of your first statement!

And why do you keep repeating - 'flight or fight'?

After 94 replies here basically I seem to be teaching others not to run away from this place!...smilng...

   And do you see that I have basically solved the greatest mystery of mankind by my writings?...smilng...

The mystery that the whole mankind was running away from since we came into existence!...smiling...

 And Mr.Landon,

                    if you were to meet Roark or Galt, what would you say to him?...smiling...

 Why don't you try and get a publisher for this book which may not be worth a million but say a

billion bucks?...laughing...

I've seriously seen better reasoning from the conspiracy theory section of an issue of high times kirshna.

---Landon

It all basically comes back to fight or flight.

And Ashley here requires some lessons in reason and objectivism!...smiling...

Come and visit me in India.I will give you some free lessons in the same...laughing...

 I am now actually learning to live without the computer!...laughing...

So I basically sit in front of the computer only once in 3 days!

And its nice to see that some posting is still being made here! May be I should expect that by now!

And Ed,

         You didn't say anything about my second question?Don't you pay for it when you have a

very costly ice-cream which costs about $10,000!

        One of the reason why I would on my own get a publisher for this short and crisp book

in the next 50 years, is because publishers would hardly have any other book to publish by then!

The whole world will be mine by then...laughing...

In 1,209,004 lifetimes I could never find another who had such an indomitable resistance to reason, nor who was less aware of the futility of continuing a flawed line of thought in a SOLO forum...

...laughing ...

krishna2,

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... who is the one guy here who will get a publisher for me?

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Thanks for the comical entertainment! ...

"... smiling ..."

Ed

 So who is the one guy here who will get a publisher for me?

Or sending 10,000 might be a easier option?

What do you think?...smiling...

Thanks for your posting!

You see that I wrote this book by online discussions with other people. So I am not going to

publish it on my own! Someone has got to do this for me! Or I might do it on my own in the next

50 years!

   But I thought that someone would be interested in making some money out of this.

   Maybe people already have too much money!

   Or its a matter of Ideals...laughing...

 Though the Ideals look Inverted here...laughing...

 So someone here who is not inverted?

You can make money out of this book,you see!...smiling...

If only those dastardly publishers wanted to make a little money, you'd have no problem finding one to publish your book. Or, if it's such a sure thing, then you might invest some of your own capital and self-publish it.

And anyone here who can find a publisher for this book of mine which I am talking about here -

 http://aynrand.meetup.com/boards

You can make money out of this book,you see!...smiling...

And my apology to Mr.Landon for the infant comment! Though not for Bissell unless he removes

the wrong picture first.

The postings here has gone bottoms up!...smiling...

What I meant by lesser brothers here is that all must be non-geniuses here.The not from my

category! If there were a high level genius around here he would have immediately sent me

the 10,000 bucks!

 Well, somebody can still pretend that he is a high level genius and send me the bucks!

So what do you think about it?

I am just getting a little curious here.Just another game of mine...

But how many here have actually understood the axiom that Existence Exists!

I know Ayn Rand left a few things here to be understood implicitely.

But have you people fallen for that trap?

I am inclined to think so because anyway I am dealing with my lesser brothers here!...smiling...

Well, when are you going to recover from your severe traffic accident?

Should it not be in this lifetime?...laughing...

And you say this things after having read what I have written!

A little bit of forgetfulness also...laughing...

Having an ice-cream for free and not paying for it! Thats a bad habit...?

I appreciate that you have the guts to come back here again and again.

It isn't so much guts as morbid curiosity;  something akin to gawking at a severe traffic accident.

And I suppose I have a soft spot for attention-hungry trolls as well.  Just one of my many human failings.

SmS

 I appreciate that you have the guts to come back here again and again.

Sure people learn something from me.I know that!

And you mean I am trying to wake up the dead horse here!Well,some horses maybe dead here,

only to be reborn in their next birth!

    But I don't think that applies to every Solo member.I am looking here for the one Who is

Alive and Kicking and will give me the 10000!

Take the hint...

SmS

Well, the people here are quite well behaved!Nobody sent me any abuse mails.

But still no one has said anything about the $ either and the wrong picture is still there.Well?

But it is circular,isn'it?!...laughing...

You posted here for whatever be your reason,whatever that you haven't yet finished in your

present lifetime because of which you have some trouble in accepting the final truth of life!

But I take your post as that you agree with me, if not now then maybe later, because right now

you are very busy with things! I am not busy with anything!

  And I see that others still agree with me! And I respect them for that.But of course this are

truths about life which they must have grasped earlier than me since I am only 31 now.

Maybe Joe and Ashley are younger than me...laughing...

  But still I am interested in the 10,000 dollars!

Here is my mail-id

    krisrampro@lycos.com

No abuse mails though!I don't abuse, But if you have noticed my writings here carefully, then you know that I reply

everything.Observe that philosophy gives the answer for every possible questions in this universe!

And in any case I have already said everything here...smiling...

"But you still posted here which means you agree with me without wanting to!...laughing...
And others by not posting here have implicitly stated that they agree with me!"

Oh, no way dude. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. First of all, you can certainly *ask* that anyone not agreeing with you not post to this thread, but we are under no obligation to respect your wishes. I would suspect that most of us have stopped reading and posting to this thread because you are nuts and the whole "discussion" is pointless and stupid. Whether one posts to this thread or not, I am doubtful that anyone agrees with you about much of anything. Your posts are very poorly written, I suspect that you think your "style" is very wise and mysterious but it is actually just tiresome.

But you still posted here which means you agree with me without wanting to!...laughing...

And others by not posting here have implicitly stated that they agree with me!

But AB,

          The wrong picture is still there!And what about my 10,000 .....smiling....

I've read both Atlas and Fountainhead, and some more. Perhaps these are the only books that you have read. OPAR, ITOE, VOS... am I getting too far ahead of you?

And we should be grateful for what? You have provided nothing other than speculative comments that amount to gibberish. You still insist on writing your numbers in the wrong way, and you have not provided a shred of evidence beyond your own dis-integrated conceptual garbage.

In response to your other comment,
"If you read my comments carefully you will see that I have asked for those who do not agree with me [read agree with facts of reality], please do not post on this thread",
why would you even bother.

But if that's the way you want it....

If you read my comments carefully you will see that I have asked for those who do not

agree with me [read agree with facts of reality], please do not post on this thread.If I still have to

convince people about my identity, then what do you think my writings so far amounts to!

You will be convinced anyway in the next 5000 million years.

 Or do you propose to go and live on the planet Krypton?...laughing...Why do you think I am asking

you for 10000... I know you will not give it to me! I am asking from the one guy who will give it

to me who knows somethings about being thankful and grateful etc.

   And Joe,

              Either you have not read The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged or you have forgotten

them...smiling... If you are not interested in Ayn Rand I suspect you will not be interested

in the real life Roark and Galt.Go have a chocolate and be happy and forget about me.

Obviously you are not comfortable with metaphysical discussions here!

Both Howard Roark and John Galt, were they not fictional, would most definitely use correct grammar. You clearly cannot be the real-life incarnation of either.

Secondly, how do you suppose you EARNED anything when you have provided nothing?

I'll tell you what, you send me $20,000 USD, then I will send you 10000 bucks.

Idoni

I find it slightly odd that you would use the Gregorian calendar if you were truly immortal/reincarnated. It is a decisively christian invention in use by someone who, while exhibiting the typical self-reinforcing delusions of christians, has not indicated that he is.

As for hallucinating about multi-armed blue people: I made both references. The first one was regarding hindu deities with blue skin and mutliple arms. These deities include Shiva, Brahma, and Vishnu. I would think you would know this.

Secondly, your inability to judge reality as it is, versus what you see in your mind, displays you have a tendency to hallucinate. But if you would like to attribute hallucinations to something mystical, then that only supports my conclusion. In the real world, hallucinations result from a mental instability, usually drug induced.

And did you really just suggest that you fucked a toddler? Woah.

Finally, there are only a few reasons that people hide their identity. They are ugly, they are scared, they are stupid, or they are all of the above. Why do I think you match the last?

Idoni

And I am not teasing anyone here!

And nobody needs to get any inferiority complex or anything like that because of what I am saying

here!

       Please understand that I am the Real Life Howard Roark and John galt.I AM THE MAN OF

THE HIGHEST MIND!

I am stating a fact of reality.It is true.When I make a statement like there is No one superior to

me on this earth in this Universe AND THATS FOR FOREVER, I am not bragging or being arrogant or self -conceited or

to make others feel low etc.

 My purpose if any is to teach others also to stand up for themselves!

To understand that there is nothing superior to human consciousness in this universe.

That you Exist! And this is a real insult to Ayn Rand if having read her you are not sure that

you Exist and if you do not seek who is the real life Roark and Galt.

   And Hi,

            What about my 10,000 dollars which I have earned many times over by now!

I don't like Thankless people!...smiling...

       You send me the 10000 bucks and I send you my picture which I am sure you would like!...

smiling...

I don't mind infants teasing me!Who did that silly thing though!...laughing...

As for those 4000 looks of mine you will have to pick up any book of Krishna or simply search for

Krishna on the web.All the 4000 looks are preserved there since the last 5000 years!

And all those looks will come back again in my next birth, say by 2076AD! Because I was born in

1976AD this time! I might choose the year 2076 for my next Incarnation...laughing...

 And someone here hallicunates about blue multiarmed people! Maybe the result of excessive

Comic book readings about the same in some past lifetimes!...laughing...

Actually as I have an explanation for everything here it is for Hallicunations also!

Some incidents from your past lifetimes which must have made a deep impact on your subconsciousness, that it disaplays those Images to you even during your waking hours when

you encounter some similar situations in your present lifetime.

I saw images of Krishna dancing with a woman and making love to her at the age of 3 or 4

while I was awake and playing on one morning!

Very helpful Andrew. I'd like to know what he's smoking and where I could get some.

---Landon

It all basically comes back to fight or flight.

I went ahead and added Krishna's picture for him. It's a shot of him in one of his previous lives, when he was Mola Ram. "Kali Ma, Schakdeeday!"

I wonder if he ever has dreams of being defeated by Indiana Jones?

I remember when this guy used to hang around meetup.com, he's always good for a laugh.

I have said a lot of things below here!Maybe not necessary!

I wish I could edit,delete a few things here and there!...laughing...

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