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Clapton on Robert Johnson: In the flowSubmitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2005-12-20 18:42.
And he understands the psychology of creativity too, about which more below. Clapton however has always been constrained by genre. Listening to much of his music over the years, his blues solos are the moments which are clearly and majestically him, the moments when he really stretches out, and his guitar gently aches and weeps -- at these moments he seems to be playing from and expressing his soul. But over the course of many years the number of solos has been too few, and the song structure within which those solos are contained has too often been too constraining, and to my ear often just too insipid to allow his soul to sing. Most of his albums -- including his latest dreary offering 'Back Down' -- have not unfortunately been crammed full of emotionally and technically challenging blues music, but too often have been mostly featureless terrains of musically- and emotionally-shallow mush-- stretching neither him nor his audience. They have however paid for an awful lot of fine living.
He points out however in an interview on the DVD that playing these songs is by no means easy -- Johnson's seemingly simple songs are a mare's nest of difficulties and complexity. Clapton the guitar hero confesses he's not entirely able to play what Johnson played and recorded seventy years ago. Like pianist Art Tatum, listening to Johnson's recordings makes you convinced there's two people playing.
Clapton describes his struggle trying to get just one song right, and concludes that getting it exactly right, "I think to do that would be a life's work. I mean, it seriously would be a life's work for any musician." He has problems with one song in particular, Stones in My Passway, and despite never really mastering it, he's clearly relishing the artistic and technical challenge.
"Pretty difficult" for Eric Clapton means well-nigh impossible for ordinary mortals --- this simple-sounding music is in fact fiendishly difficult to play, which is part of what offers Clapton his reward for playing it. In an interview for the DVD, Clapton describes what he feels when he's playing this difficult music; his description makes fascinating reading for anyone interested in the psychology of creativity, and of what makes people truly happy, satisfied and fulfilled:
being completely involved in an activity for its own sake. The ego falls away. Time flies. Every action, movement, and thought follows inevitably from the previous one, like playing jazz. Your whole being is involved, and you're using your skills to the utmost. Csikszentmihalyi has studied creative and high-achieving individuals, and he describes the phenomenon of their 'being in the flow' in their work as both their defining attribute, and their reward. 'Flow' itself is a function of a person's skills and the challenge before them. "Optimal experience, or flow, occurs when both variables are high," says Csikszentmihalyi. Too simple a challenge for our skills and we feel bored; too much of a challenge and we feel anxiety. But like Red Riding Hood eating Baby Bear's porridge, if things are 'just right' and our skills are being challenged to the right degree, then we too find ourselves in 'flow' in just the way Clapton describes. Ayn Rand described "productive work [as] the central purpose of a rational man's life, the central value that integrates and determines the hierarchy of all his other values. Reason is the source, the precondition of his productive work – pride is the result." If our work is what integrates us, then being in 'flow' through our work is our psychological reward for doing it well.
Once we understand what 'flow' is and its importance to us, we can seek to maximise our time 'in the flow' rather than simply existing in a drone-lie manner, or engaging in mindless pleasure-seeking. Csikszentmihalyi for example contrasts enjoyment and pleasure, explaining "that the difference was that pleasure lacked a sense of achievement or active contribution to the result." Work or pleasure done 'in flow' need not be tiring; if done properly, it might instead be galvanising! The North American Montessori Teachers Association have been working with Csikszentmihalyi to apply his model for education with children -- Montessorian David Kahn (who introduced me to the concept of flow in a lecture here in Auckland a few years back) lists eight conditions of "the flow experience," all of which he maintains are found in the Montessori classroom. His introduction to Montessori and Optimal Experience Research (PDF download) is a good place to start understanding the concept of flow, and one example of its concrete application. The 'Brain Channels Thinker of the Year Award - 2000' site also has some great links to find out more. Linked Articles: Related: Music, Ethics, Objectivism, Science, Education
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Thanks for that pointer to Albert King. Found it on Youtube and loved it.
Jennifer, love cooking and eating just as much.( I used to be a Chef in charge of an army camp mess during the South African/Cuban border war in Angola/Namibia for 2 years)
Just Discovered "Cookwise" by Shirley O Corriher recently. If you aint read it yet (highly unlikely) I stronly suggest it. Just reading it puts me in the zone.
Hilton
I admit that reason is a small and feeble flame, a flickering torch by stumblers carried in the starless night, -- blown and flared by passion's storm, -- and yet, it is the only light. Extinguish that, and nought remains.- - Robert Green Ingersoll
Most definitely.
Agreed on all points, Peter. I hope more people chime in on this discussion (my tangent comment referred to hijacking away from the topic of Clapton and music). I do love the idea of savoring existence in all things, which is part of the message I try to convey in my own work; now, if masses of people would catch on, we'd really be getting somewhere! Imagine what a different kind of world it would be.
I've always believed that that kind of work -- one where you can regularly get into the zone -- is the most fulfilling type possible. I can envision you at your drafting table in that same state, and it's inspiring. I get that way when I'm making site tweaks, cooking for a large party, writing...it's all magnificent.
Jennifer
-- Food Philosophy. Sensuality. Sass.
No tangent
You'd surely place cooking in the "high-challenge-high skills" category, wouldn't you, PD -- at least your cooking, if not ours.
But this is no tangent. This is part of why I was sufficiently inspired by the concept to write about it back in 2005. It's a good way of seeing how we can really 'savour existence in all things' -- to enjoy every moment -- by harmonising those two ingredients of skills and challenge in all our activities; in work, in hobbies and in daily life.
Remember Rand's discussion of her stamp collecting hobby?
It's a related discussion, really, to the one Kelly started recently about work.
PC
Missed this one!
:::tangent:::
I am heartened to discover that eating has been placed in the same high-challenge area as reading on this "flow" chart (now Luke Setzer is going to get all excited!), but I wonder to what type of eating he's referring there. The person seeking true gratification is definitely engaging all senses in tandem with the mind to appreciate a fine meal -- but I am willing to bet that most people eat on auto-pilot, putting that activity more in the realm of television watching. Which makes me sad.
I would definitely place cooking in that high-challenge area as well -- the adrenaline rush of being in the thick of it, with timing and stirring and plating -- is like nothing else.
:::end of tangent:::
Jennifer
-- Food Philosophy. Sensuality. Sass.
Well said, Hilton!
"...these guys, while jamming in that zone get closer to 'heaven' than any saint could ever dream of." Brilliant, and accurate!
Though your selection of guitar heroes has a bit of a 'classic rock' bent, all have definitely reached the 'zone' (though I'm not sure what 'zone' Angus Young of AC/DC really enters when his head is perpetually bobbing up and down) PC speaks of.
One of my electric blues guitar favorites is Albert King's "I'll Play The Blues For You." While containing elements of cheesy lyrics and horns worthy of a 1970's porno movie, this track has UNREAL licks and extended solo which melts you right into the flow. A recommended listen, if you haven't heard it already.
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Good one Peter
Just this weekend I had a few friends over for a curry and when all were fairly pasted we started comparing some of our favourite tracks from Clapton, Knoppfler, Carlos Santana, JJ cale, BB King, Dave Gilmour, ACDC, and a couple of others to see who was best. No verdict could be reached.
In my view they all KASS and if you watch them, they all their best stuff was defintely done in that zone.
My dad was an excellent pianist as well, and even when he was old, his whole being would be transformed when he got behind the piano.
I have many times watched musicians, especially Jazz and Blues artists and have thought that these guys, while jamming in that zone get closer to "heaven" than any saint could ever dream of.
One of the clearest examples of being in flow is in this video of Jamie Cullum...see how he battles to come out of it at just before his refrain. http://youtube.com/watch?v=pxvCVvWWiNk
Hilton
I admit that reason is a small and feeble flame, a flickering torch by stumblers carried in the starless night, -- blown and flared by passion's storm, -- and yet, it is the only light. Extinguish that, and nought remains.- - Robert Green Ingersoll
discovered this by accident
Figures almost all the kiwis I know and love are both Objectivists/libertarians AND blues fans. Still my favorite kind of emotional, soul-bearing music as well. And no doubt always will be. EXCELLENT READ, PETER!
Tim, if you buy Johnson's
Tim, if you buy Johnson's recordings, all of which are contained on this boxset...
Robert Johnson Boxset
...then be prepared for an historical document and not a hi-fi masterpiece.
As I recall, all of Johnson's extant stuff was recorded in two sessions, the Gunter Hotel, San Antonio, 1936 & in Dallas, 1937. They were originally made on wire recorders and then cut to disc so that accounts for the quality issues, methinks. But what you will hear through the streaky sonics is the voice of a young man who lived the life of a hard-living blues journeyman & the stripped down licks learned from many years of life on the dusty roads of the deep south. The story of Johnson selling his soul to Legba (the Devil) at the crossroads in return for having his guitar "tuned" by the Dark One is, of course, fictional. And I don't just mean metaphysically
Makes a nice ghost story, though.
Someone said, maybe Keith Richards, that it's hard to imagine what Johnson would have done if he'd had an electric guitar, but it sure would have been amazing. I think he would have been far closer in style to the late R L Burnside's propulsive ferocity than Clapton's traditionalism. We'll never know.
A cult classic movie that evokes the Johnson story is Crossroads from '86. Terrific soundtrack by Ry Cooder and lots of references to deals with the Devil. Mu-hahaha!
"Clapton never had his
"Clapton never had his guitar tuned by the Devil at a dark Mississippi crossroads, did he?"
Sure'nuff, he didn't.
"It's hard to see flow taking place in a command & control environment "
No, you're right. Being 'in the zone' or in flow can only happen when the motivation for work comes from within. You can't force a man to think, and neither can you force 'optimal experience' upon someone, or plan for it from above.
"Although I rather think this has inspired me to go out and buy Robert Johnson than Eric Clapton."
Excellent. Now his guitar was tuned by the Devil at a dark Mississippi crossroads.
I hope I also sold you on the importance of 'flow'?
Great article, thanks PC.
Great article, thanks PC. Although I rather think this has inspired me to go out and buy Robert Johnson than Eric Clapton.
Excellent, excellent
Excellent, excellent article, Peter.
Kahn's paper was an interesting read. The concepts of normalcy & psychological health are vital to any understanding of what Montessori was aiming at in her pedagogy. The idea that that the child makes the man--wants to be the man--that all we need do is construct a rational environment for children and direct them thru it, and they will spontaneously seek solutions to problems & attempt to create order, was a pretty tasty idea on it's own, but to tie that in with flow, which seems to describe a virtuous feedback loop, is just as appetising.
There's no such thing as a "well-adjusted" Montessori child. That describes conformity to an artificiality (the whim of a bureaucrat, perhaps
) whereas normalcy (partly) describes a child's ability to react with the discipline that reality demands, that dependent on the child having been directed to order & evaluate their world as opposed to the well-adjusted child who is simply taught to accept it. (witness the difference between word-picture & phonics) It's hard to see flow taking place in a command & control environment (witness a government department).
Also, flow seems to describe something akin to the free-market, except internalised.
Re Johnson & Clapton: perhaps old Eric never got over being called God. Or perhaps he believed it for a while. But when Robert faced into the corner of that room-cum-recording studio in the Gunter Hotel, San Antonio in 1936, it's always sounded to me like he was in confession & the microphone was his confessor. He certainly seems to be exorcising demons and flowing like Eric never could. But then, Clapton never had his guitar tuned by the Devil at a dark Mississippi crossroads, did he?