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Global Warming: "It doesn't commit governments to any course of action." Submitted by Marcus on Thu, 2007-02-08 17:18.
The current issue of the journal "Nature" has a feature on the 2007 IPCC report on climate change. Although the upper limit prediction of ocean rising by 2100 has been reduced by 25% (the media omit this part), the media in the UK have jumped up and down about this report, claiming that the science is now so accurate that man-made global warming is no longer debatable! I wonder which environmental think-tank came up with that ingenious response? Anyway, Nature gives various responses from around the world to the report mainly by politicians. However, there is one intelligent quote that bunks the trend. I wish all politicians could take a similar stance! Pradipto Ghosh, a senior official at India's Ministry of Environment and Forest is quoted as saying: Here are all of them for your viewing pleasure: "This may be remembered as the day the question mark was removed from whether human activity has anything to do with climate change." Achim Steiner, head of the United Nations Environment Programme "Now is not the time for half measures. It is the time for a revolution. French president Jacques Chirac "The question is, what can we do now? There's very little we can do about arresting the process." "This should compel all of us towards action rather than the paralysis of fear." Martin Rees, president of the United Kingdom's Royal Society "Now it's time for us — the policymakers — to do our jobs." Bart Gordon, Democratic Congressman from Tennessee and chair of the US House Committee on Science "This is a group of climate experts attempting to reach a scientific consensus. It doesn't commit governments to any course of action." Pradipto Ghosh, senior official at India's Ministry of Environment and Forests "For sure, humans cause global warming!" "Let's be realistic. You can only run power stations in a modern Western economy on fossil fuel, or, in time, nuclear power." Australian prime minister John Howard, whose country has not ratified the Kyoto protocol "Those who continue to ignore the threat will be doing the greatest disservice imaginable to current and future generations." Marthinus van Schalkwyk, environmental affairs minister for South Africa.
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What we don't know about climate change.
Strangely enough, although Nature has run with a "news" story saying that the science behind the IPCC 2007 is no longer contestable - it contains an article entitled: "What we don't know about climate change." Here are some excerpts below...
"Another major source of uncertainty — and of debate at the Paris meeting where the IPCC report was finalized — is the rise in sea level. In 2001, the IPCC predicted a rise of between 9 and 88 millimetres by 2100, as a result of melting ice caps and the thermal expansion of the ocean. This time around, the group has narrowed that range to between 19 and 58 centimetres. But some scientists say that this is an underestimate...
Key sticking points include the inability of global climate models to produce the amount of sea-level rise observed over the past couple of decades and whether ice flow at the bases of glaciers is accelerating or not. How volatile Antarctic and Greenland glaciers might become in a warmer world is therefore pretty much guesswork...
Improving the models, experts say, requires better data. Gaps and errors in observations are attributable to many causes: snowfall gauges that ice up, oceanographic floats that get lost, and changeovers in satellites that throw off carefully calibrated trends, to name but a few. Cloud and storm records urgently need to be reprocessed using uniform techniques, says Kevin Trenberth, a senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, and coordinating lead author of the report's chapter on surface and atmospheric change.
"The IPCC report is a consensus report, and one that develops over nearly three years," he says. "This means that it is not the leading — or bleeding — edge of the science."
Marcus you are exactly right,
Marcus you are exactly right, Sir Crispin Tickell, Britain's former ambassador to the United Nations, told a London conference on Climate Change that terrorism is caused in part by global warming. He cits the UBL quote you pulled as proof. I find this deliciously ironic when the same people refuse to take the word of terrorists when they say they want to kill Americans and wipe Israel off the map. (I know I'm channeling Kevin here)
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Islam insofar as it is directed by governments, and as a measure enforced from above by any government, is to be done away with.
William are you referring..
...to this line of complaint against the US from Bin Laden's letter?
"You have destroyed nature with your industrial waste and gases more than any other nation in history. Despite this, you refuse to sign the Kyoto agreement so that you can secure the profit of your greedy companies and*industries."
It is clear here that Bin Laden and the greenies are in the same camp!
This is all part of a global
This is all part of a global warming media blitz. I like to Bin Laden's claim that global warming causes terrorism to give context to the next story where some scientist actually claims it.
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Islam insofar as it is directed by governments, and as a measure enforced from above by any government, is to be done away with.