'Atlas ' at 50

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Submitted by jdlimber on Mon, 2007-04-23 04:28

Here is an article by Kevin Walker at the Tampa Tribune about "Atlas Shrugged". It appears he has never read "Atlas Shrugged" (or any of Ayn Rand's works) and he is clearly mystified by its enduring presence and influence. None the less it mentions some interesting points. Did you know that several years ago Modern Library published readers' choices for the best novels of the 20th century, four books by Rand made the list: "Atlas Shrugged" (#1), "The Fountainhead" (#2), "Anthem" (#7) and "We the Living" (#8). We know what Ayn Rand's writings mean to us, maybe I should send Mr. Walker a copy of "Atlas Shrugged" so he can get up to speed.

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Lance and Denzel

mvardoulis's picture

Lance as Hank is no more odd than Denzel as Galt, Michael. Maybe we're just the Soloists with the odd casting concepts. Fun to talk about, nonetheless, especially with all the French codewords running about. Smiling

Getting rid of net nanny

Kenny's picture

May I suggest that you delete and reinstall your browser and other related software. Failing that, another browser may work.

thanks

Olivia's picture

I'll remember to use french more often - you'll understand my code! Smiling

Sounds as though my net nanny is inconsistent - she's still there.

comes up as xxxxxxx xxx ?

Kenny's picture

The mind boggles! Smiling

... comes up as xxxxxxx xxx

VSD's picture

... comes up as xxxxxxx xxx - only your 'French' version is legible ... though your problem seems to have resolved itself - no more x-es in your last post? 
net-nanny has left the building? or did you move behind another firewall Eye

VSD

> Nicole Kidman or Naomi

PhilipC's picture

> Nicole Kidman or Naomi Watts, with Joely Richardson breathing hard on the outside

Not that it matters, but the above was supposed to be about three beautiful women...the last phrase wasn't about L_____ S__ but about being " a contenda" in that category. Maybe I should have said "coming up hard on the outside"....

I see. You were teasing me.

Olivia's picture

Ha bloody ha. Eye

Well the net nanny came with the computer - I don't even know what sort of filter it is - there are sorts? I've searched through all applications, hard drive systems etc and nothing comes up. But you didn't answer my question. In my first post when I mentioned lesbian sex, does it come up on YOUR computer as words or' stars?

I want to know if it's just me that's lost the privilege of reading my own slang.

Theron

Kenny's picture

I am delighted to see that Phil agrees that Nicole Kidman should be a contender. My first choice is still Kate Blanchett. Theron would be third choice as Dagny.

Pure Irony - with lots of

VSD's picture

Pure Irony - with lots of smileys Eye the x-rated xxx for lesbians and your 'Lesbienne Seexx' (Academie Francaise spelling?) looked too funny to pass up the oportunity for a laugh Smiling
of course: if they should ever start censoring certain words like 'lesbian sex' it would be only a short step to censoring those who practice it - how did your 'net-nanny' end up with such a filter???

VSD

this might sound odd bu i

michael fasher's picture

this might sound odd bu i always imagine hank rearden looking like lance armstrong the cyclist

Vera

Olivia's picture

How exactly has Solo become prudish? No one is censoring lesbians.

Not that tired old clichee again ...

VSD's picture

tell him to get a sex-change then he can experience it first hand - until then he can stay with his unattainable fantasies which have absolutely nothing to do with lesbian sex ...

and I'm suprised Solo has become prudish - censorship for lezzies??? however did I manage to stay under the radar so long Sticking out tongue

VSD

PS: re casting I'd go for unknown actors - no baggage as already mentioned ... though I'd not really film Atlas - I'd make a movie one year after Atlas Eye

Does my computer...

Olivia's picture

change naughty words into stars when my posts come onto Solo?

I've got a new second hand computer with a Porn filter that I have no idea how to deactivate.

Below should read Lesbienne Seexx Smiling

Ah Phil...

Olivia's picture

but imagine!

I asked my beloved once what exactly is it about ******* *** that grips a man's full and undivided attention. He said; "It's really quite simple. It's naked female X 2."

At last, I understood perfectly. Smiling

> the actress with the most

PhilipC's picture

> the actress with the most beautiful body would have to be Charlize Theron... statuesque [Claudia]

Nicole Kidman or Naomi Watts, with Joely Richardson breathing hard on the outside

This may sound odd, but...

mvardoulis's picture

Whenever I read the words ascribed to John Galt, I hear them in Denzel Washington's voice. He may not be right for the role that Mr. Pitt seems to want, but I can't help 'hearing' Washington's voice. Perhaps the 'audio book' version...?

Jennifer...

Ross Elliot's picture

...that list is tongue-in-cheek, right?

Oh yes!

Olivia's picture

Uma Thurman would be perfect for Lillian Reardon. Cold, cold, cold.

Casting

jdlimber's picture

Since I don't think Angelina or Brad will give up their parts here is my list for the rest of the cast.

Dagny- Angelina Jolie
John Galt- Brad Pitt
Fransisco- Christian Bale or Rodrigo Santoro
Ragnar- David Wenham
Hank Rearden- Russell Crowe or Gerard Butler
James Taggart- John Malkovich
Eddie Willers- Elijah Wood
Lillian Rearden- Uma Thurman
Cheryl Taggart- Scarlett Johansson or Reese Witherspoon
Hugh Akston- Clint Eastwood
Midas Mulligan- Jack Nicholson
Mr Thompson- Kevin Spacey

Regarding scrawny

Olivia's picture

In Atlas, Dagny is described as long lined, fine boned and fragile in appearance. It's her spirit that is robust.

Funny how guys have strong preferences either for or against ultra slimness. I think the actress with the most beautiful body would have to be Charlize Theron... statuesque like a greek goddess.

For the shorter, fuller type of female figure, I can't get past Salma Hayek. She's so perfect in a sexy, earthy, full kind of way. (Obviously not for Dagny though).
Smiling

Obvious reason, Kenny...

Ross Elliot's picture

...too scrawny Eye

Thanks Claudia

Kenny's picture

"Hubba hubba" is not used in the UK. I had no idea what it, or the "girls" meant.

I am surprised that none of the "down under" Soloists have proposed Nicole Kidman (hubba hubba!) as Dagny Taggart.

scrawny women give me no

PhilipC's picture

scrawny women give me no rest...like jimmy bond i have to fight them off

I rest my case

Ross Elliot's picture

Cool

I like scrawny

PhilipC's picture

I like scrawny

Nah, can't go Kate...

Ross Elliot's picture

Too much the scrawny, three-chucks-a-day-and-I'm-ok, Euro-model look--think Joanna Lumley. Ditto, Mitch's choice of Theron.

But, it's endlessly fascinating...

Ross.

Olivia's picture

When I use the word tough, I mean a kind of internal grit - not something akin to Nikita.

I still reckon Cate Blanchett would make the perfect Dagny. Confident, intelligent, principled and beautifully fragile in appearance. She also looks great with dark hair.

Excessive smilies...

Mitch's picture

Sorry about that Smiling Smile Smiling

The Cast...

Mitch's picture

Does anybody have (or know of) an actual cast list for Atlas? In it's absence I am free to dream, so here are my suggestions.

I reckon you either have to have no stars, or heaps. That way one particular star can't bring "baggage". I.e. Jolie & Pitt.

Dagny- Charlize Theron! (with dark hair of course)
John Galt- Wouldn't be a very large part, so maybe a no-name?
Fransisco- Christian Bale
Ragnar- Jude Law
Hank Rearden- Ralph Fiennes
James Taggart- Tim Robbins
Eddie Willers-?
Lillian Rearden- Glenn Close
Cheryl Taggart- Scarlett Johansson
Hugh Akston- Christopher Walken
Midas Mulligan- Jack Nicholson
Mr Thompson- Martin Sheen Smiling

*George Clooney has to be in there as a bad guy. Perhaps Dr Robert Stadler (wouldn't it be awesome to see him blown up?!) Smiling

*Angelina Jolie is an idiot, and it does not bode well for me that she is actually going to play Dagny. I would love to be pleasantly surprised though.

So there's my dream team Smiling Thoughts, suggestions?

P.S. Does this come under the umbrella of hijacking? Smiling If so, please accept my apologies Smiling

Dagny wasn't "tough"...

Ross Elliot's picture

...she was competent. There's a difference.

Who wants to see tough chicks, anyway? I want to see confident, intelligent and principled women--not Bruce Willis in a skirt.

Oh dear!

Olivia's picture

Julia Ormond? She's no Dagny. She's just not tough enough. Pretty though. But she doesn't embody the American spirit. She's more a classical Bronte/Austen kind of feminine.

Kenny - you don't know what Hubba Hubba means? Just think, all this time and you never knew the girls were saying "Phaaaaaw" to you. Smiling

Kenny

Ross Elliot's picture

I use it and although I've never looked it up, to this Kiwi it's like a cross between "get a load of that" and "yeow!", and is always applied to the opposite sex Eye

Hubba Hubba? James

Kenny's picture

James, that is the second time that I have seen "hubba hubba" used on SOLO. Can you, or anyone, tell this ignorant Brit what it means?

Good call, Jim

Ross Elliot's picture

She's perfect. The right age, too. Gorgeous, without being botoxed to hell. Reminiscent of Juliette Binoche. Wow.

Yes, it's Angelina ...

Lindsay Perigo's picture

... and Brad. No joke. (Mind you, I can look past a lot with Brad. Or not. Smiling)

Angelina Jolie

J. Heaps-Nelson's picture

Hubba Hubba! I suggested that Julia Ormond might make a good Dagny but she'd have to be interested int the role.

Jim

Hmmmm ...

Lindsay Perigo's picture

Certainly better than the reviews it received on publication! And yes, no Branden smears. Remarkable. And refreshing.

This guys a nincompoop though:

Alex Levine, an associate professor of philosophy at USF, saw firsthand the grip Rand can have on youthful readers. As a "fairly green teacher" in 1989, Levine said he was "surprised to see how many of them clung to Rand's heroic ideals, how strongly they needed to believe in them, despite the fact they are as ill-suited to the lives of actual human beings as any of the 20th century's other utopian ideals."

Noting "Atlas Shrugged" was published at the height of the Cold War, Levine called it "the literary equivalent of Sputnik."

Levine said readers who believe they can live like characters in Rand's books face failure because "human beings … are situated within, and constituted by, their particular communities. They are not consistently rational or even self-interested; they can be both generous and punitive beyond all measure, at great cost to themselves."

Levine said people should read Rand but "read her carefully, as an exemplar of the last century's mistakes."

Angelina Jolie...

Mitch's picture

as Dagny Taggart? And a Rand fan? That a joke (in very poor taste) right?

Well...

James S. Valliant's picture

The good news: not single a Branden smear to be found!

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