Surrounding SOLO

Rick Giles's picture
Submitted by Rick Giles on Sat, 2007-08-11 16:02.

'Surrounding SOLO'

There once was a local standup routine in a West Coast pub (of all places) and in attendance was this small group of German tourists. After the show the comedian came down to the bar and the Germans wanted to buy him a drink. One of the visitors asks him, "You really have a great routine going, how come we don't have anyone as funny as you back home?". The Coaster set down his beer and says, "Because you killed them all."

In any normal distribution of numerical facts there tend to be abnormalities at the extremities. 70% of us (if not more ) think the same thoughts, watch the same TV, laugh at the same jokes, eat the same food, hold the same opinions. Only very few members of a population have the extra je ne sais quoi to be extremely funny, extremely revolutionary physicists, extremely revolutionary novelist-philosophers. Among these extreme deviants are the great benefactors of we mere standard deviation population members. It doesn't do for us to kill them off.

However, one doesn't have to be an extreme outlier to bring to one's group the benefits of diversity. Plain old ordinary garden variety disagreements are very much a blessing and we should be glad to find them. If I am in the right then the perspective I disagree with is an indispensable whetstone for showing me just how right I am and how I can understand and explain my own view better. But if I am wrong then the disagreement draws my attention so that I can correct the mistake. Disagreements are a win-win situations. Why then do people not choose to win? They frequently choose instead to be provoked by disagreements into fighting with each other, taking disagreement as a personal affront rather than personal boon. We evict, abandon, fight, kill and die instead- and these aren't things we work ourselves up to they are our default positions!

I decided to register with solohq.com a few months back. It coincided with the assent of our present editor's predecessor, this was no accident on my part. My ideas and my ways have been in disagreement with Mr Perigo in the past, so this was my chance to bypass him (admire him as I do.) All the same, I thought I'd be long gone for good by now. Turns out I'm not, but the old editor and a swag of others too (who you'd never have guessed) have hit the trail and all because of disagreements they and we choose not to resolve. What a waste of a win-win opportunity! This can happen again unless we all mature in our regard for disagreement and respond to it first with a little charity and understanding, not claws. The ones that go are always authors, always high-rating members and distinguished by being outside the pack.

Wrote a great playwright- 'If you're dumb, surround yourself with smart people. If you're smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you.' Who shall you choose to surround SOLO with?

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I submitted this to the article queue on the old SOLOHQ forum two years ago. As it was rejected, I simply posted it to the forum months latter. It refers to the change-over from SOLO executive Jason Dixon to Andrew Bissell. However, the sentiment hasn't dated so much as not to apply equally to the change-over from SOLO executive Jason Quintana to Mitch Lees. The more things change....


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No I'm not

Rick Giles's picture

Rick's attempts to shit-stir yet again.

No I'm not.
I just don't see that the same lessons need to go on being repeated again and again unheeded.

Lindsay's other staff members who have left would be misleading because they all left for their own reasons.

Just like you. I rest my case.


Glenn ...

Lindsay Perigo's picture

I won't identify it, out of deference to Jason. In my view he should have posted his view on the article thread, but that's not his way, apparently.


Mind if I ask which article

Jameson's picture

he regarded as collectivist? Puzzled


False insinuations ...

Lindsay Perigo's picture

To the best of my memory there was never a moment's grief between Jason and me when he was in the driver's seat. I knew that he disagreed with some posters, including me, on some matters, but that's inevitable on an open forum. Believe it or not, I disagree with some posters too! And—we all have keyboards. The first I knew of any major "alienation" on Jason's part was when I got a bolt-from-the-blue message from him saying SOLO made him sick and demanding he be removed from the staff. Turned out he'd been especially incensed by a new article in the stickies that he regarded as collectivist. Well, that's his prerogative. As everyone knows, I deem it preferable to stay and fight rather than to flounce, but if folk are determined to flounce, ain't much I can do about it. At least Jason has been honourable enough not to lob grenades at SOLO as he departs, in spite of Rick's attempts to shit-stir yet again.

Linz


Correcting any false insinuations

Jason Quintana's picture

"One point is to mark the final departure of Jason Quintana. From SOLO's greatest advocate he's become alienated and unwilling to participate further- just like every one else who has had his job so far. Makes you think."

This is true, I did ask to be removed from the SOLO staff two days ago and this was because I started to seriously dislike the philosophical content that was being advocated and promoted on SOLO. I couldn't stomach it anymore and became disappointed enough that I asked to be taken off of the staff list. I am not interested in discussing this further and I am not going to be part of any SOLO smear campaign. Any private discussions will get the same message. The same message I gave Rick when I informed him that I am no longer part of SOLO when he mentioned some Skype meeting on IM yesterday.

Lindsay himself never treated me unfairly in any of our private dealings. Any comparison between me and any of Lindsay's other staff members who have left would be misleading because they all left for their own reasons.

- Jason


What...

Jameson's picture

... you want us to take lessons in appeasement?

We know where to come if we change our minds. Smiling


Points

Rick Giles's picture

Two points.

One point is to mark the final departure of Jason Quintana. From SOLO's greatest advocate he's become alienated and unwilling to participate further- just like every one else who has had his job so far. Makes you think.

My other point is that, without making a judgement about wheather the latest SOLO executive is smart or dumb, there is a win-win in not turning away diversity of opinion. People are our only resources, yet we keep on depleting them and have not ever, in all these years, bothered to arrest this trend.


Who

Elijah Lineberry's picture

was the standup comedian in the pub?


Rick

Olivia's picture

What are you trying to say? It seems like you want to make a point here, but I don't understand what it is.


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