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Teaching Appeasement Submitted by Liz on Thu, 2007-09-20 03:04.
My recent alma mater Columbia University has invited the murderous fanatic Ahmadinejad to the podium next week. From the Columbia Spectator: "Necessarily, on occasion this will bring us into contact with beliefs many, most, or even all of us will find offensive and even odious," University President Lee Bollinger said in a statement. "We trust our community, including our students, to be fully capable of dealing with these occasions, through the powers of dialogue and reason." "Opportunities to hear, challenge, and learn from controversial speakers of different views are central to the education and training of students for citizenship in a shrinking and still dangerous world. This is especially true for SIPA students, many of whose careers will require them to confront human rights and security issues throughout the globe," Coatsworth said in a statement. From this link you can also link to the pussy president Bollinger's statement on the Columbia invitation. Liz
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Bollinger ass-kissing
Bollinger's ass-kissing goes back to his days of his so called Presidency at the University of Michigan while I was a student. This is just par for the course.
Wm
I just saw ...
.... the Police Commissioner saying they were "engaged in a conversation" with the Islamo-Fascists about the possibility of the maggot visiting Ground Zero. Then taking it back 24 hours later after public outrage put a cattle-prod up his slimy ass. Then Bush saying he could "understand" the outrage. Piss-weak. Why hasn't he lined up the CIA to assassinate the cunt? Why is he letting him in at all?! Sickening.
Bollinger is full of BS
Bollinger is a collectivist ass-kisser.
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Statement: Student Leaders Unite To Oppose Head Of State (sort of)
Excerpts:
The relatively unified reaction comes after two years of controversial speaking events—by former attorney general John Ashcroft, Minuteman Project founder Jim Gilchrist, and Norman Finkelstein, among others—which frequently pitted student groups against each other.
While plans are in still in preliminary stages, at least four organizations—Hillel, the Columbia Queer Alliance, Everyone Allied Against Homophobia, and the Columbia University College Republicans—said last night that they are planning protests for the day of the event.
Other student leaders expressed concerns that the statement was not critical enough of the invitation itself. Columbia Queer Alliance president Peter Gallotta, CC ’09, who signed the statement, said that while he welcomed the opportunity to engage in intellectual discourse, he was uncomfortable with the statement’s assertion that “no views are too disreputable to be excluded,” and said he was concerned that Ahmadinejad’s rhetoric might devolve into “hate speech.
David Feith, editor-in-chief of Jewish affairs magazine The Current, didn’t sign the statement because he was more critical of Ahmadinejad. While praising the unity effort, he said, “I personally wish the statement would have focused more on Ahmadinejad and examined ... if Columbia should go out of its way to give ... the respect that comes with a podium to someone with Ahmadinejad’s views and goals.
“How many people in the western hemisphere, or the world for that matter, will get a chance to protest him [Ahmadinejad]?” said Chris Kulawik, CC ’08 and president of the College Republicans who signed the statement. He later added, “I think he’s one of the most dangerous people in the world today.”
Columbia onsite poll #'s: 75% no to 23% yes - do you support the invitation?
President Bollinger's Statement
"I would like to add a few comments on the principles that underlie this event. Columbia, as a community dedicated to learning and scholarship, is committed to confronting ideas—to understand the world as it is and as it might be.
"I would also like to invoke a major theme in the development of freedom of speech as a central value in our society. It should never be thought that merely to listen to ideas we deplore in any way implies our endorsement of those ideas, or the weakness of our resolve to resist those ideas, or our naiveté about the very real dangers inherent in such ideas. It is a critical premise of freedom of speech that we do not honor the dishonorable when we open the public forum to their voices. To hold otherwise would make vigorous debate impossible.
That such a forum could not take place on a university campus in Iran today sharpens the point of what we do here. To commit oneself to a life—and a civil society—prepared to examine critically all ideas arises from a deep faith in the myriad benefits of a long-term process of meeting bad beliefs with better beliefs and hateful words with wiser words. That faith in freedom has always been and remains today our nation’s most potent weapon against repressive regimes everywhere in the world. This is America at its best."
He is supposedly a Free Speech Scholar?(didn't know they existed?)I guess in the world of non-absolutes you would need one huh. What do you think? I think he is a conflicting and contradicting mess.
where the f**k is Bush??????
Bush has been oddly silent about this whole fucking farce. What a pussy. J. Edgar Hoover come back from the grave and kick some ass.
This Crazy World We Live In
Suppose someone was able to assassinate, Ahmadinejad, next week, what would happen to the assassin? Would he be charged with murder? Ahmadinejad is an objective threat to all us infidels and yet he might be able to freely enter and leave the United States without harm, or be held accountable for actively promoting worldwide terrorism.
I am curious Liz
Is there much anger amongst the rest of students?
Any idea of the levels between the pro's and cons?
Here's the problem
What he does is tells his audience what they want to hear. If he is questioned about statements, he brings up the slaughter of American Indians, poor treatment of US vets after Vietnam, stuff like that. Like a good Muslim, he lies and lies and lies to stupid Westerners who think that there can be a meaningful dialogue with a person whose ideology gives them permission to perpetrate all manner of evil, lie about it, and murder us once he has us confused suficiently.
Then, once he gets home, he continues to haror terrorists, preach the destruction of Israel, the spread of Islam, etc. And he can count the money he got from the liberal university and use it to buy guns and bombs and bullets against brave American and Aussie and Kiwi troops. Awesome.
Diversity is SO important.
Scott DeSalvo
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur!
Work For Assassins
There should be no protest, just an assassination. Imagine Hitler giving a speech at Columbia University in the 1930s. Who is next, Bin Laden? We do live in a very bizarre world.
Editorial
The New York Sun,
the most sane newspaper in New York; one of the few papers to print the Danish Muhammad cartoons and consistently defends against Bloomberg's nanny state food and word (the nigger, bitch and ho voluntary speech bans) phobias; has
printed this editorial for those of you wanting more information.
Excerpt:
"If the bizarre request of President Ahmadinejad to lay a wreath at ground zero has been put to rest once and for all, New Yorkers can thank three persons — the police commissioner, Raymond Kelly; Israel's ambassador to the United Nations, Daniel Gillerman, and Matt Drudge. That, at least, is how we reconstruct the events that yesterday stunned and briefly outraged thousands of New Yorkers, a number of candidates on the hustings, and even the White House, as it looked for a while that consideration might be given to the idea that the Iranian anti-Semite and terror master, due in town for a meeting of the U.N. General Assembly, might be allowed downtown to visit the scene of Al Qaeda's crime."
"For those with time in grade on this issue, the drama brought to mind the efforts, during the Clinton administration, to bring Yasser Arafat on a visit to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. A number of figures, even in the Jewish community, flirted with the idea, on the theory that if Arafat were brought face to face with an eloquent telling of the evil that befell the Jews of Europe, he might be moved to renounce it. Then harder-headed figures asserted themselves and the visit was cancelled, its backers embarrassed but more mature for it. Though there's always someone. Next week, Columbia University is planning to host on its campus the Iranian leader who denies the Holocaust, is pursuing a nuclear weapon, and calls for Israel to be destroyed.
The person who could prevent this entire farce from taking place is the district attorney of Queens County, Richard Brown. When Mr. Ahmadinejad flies into John F. Kennedy International Airport, he'll be in Queens. That is the borough of Specialist Jonathan Rivadeneira of the U.S. Army's 3rd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division, who was killed on Friday in Iraq by an improvised explosive device of the sort that American officials say are supplied and crafted by Iran. Rivadeneira's death left his mother, Martha Clark of Jackson Heights, Queens, childless. Let Mr. Brown seek a warrant for Mr. Ahmadinejad's arrest and give him a true civics lesson in an American dock. Let's just say we have no doubt that, were a warrant issued, Mr. Kelly and New York's Finest would be delighted to enforce it."
Claudia
Looks as if they took the server down. Wusses.
The response on the site last night was swift and merciless.
I know there will be protests, the organized kind I have no info on as yet.
Un. Fucking. Believable.
Hey, I'm a free speech freak, if they want to have an Islamic extremist or a neo nazi or whatever give a presentation, fine. So long as they give someone with the opposite view point an opportunity to speak as well.
But the President of a country that actively harbors terrorism!????? Call me a fascist but I think that's in poor taste.
Oh Liz!
Sounds like repulsive Dem-scum tolerance to me. Utterly contemptible!
I can't open the link as it won't connect to my server, but I want to ask, has anyone organised a major protest (failing an assassination)?
I apologise for excessive quotation marks
Ah yes, but it's "different" and when shit is "different", you are not allowed to call it out as evil are you? Noooooo, you have to afford "different views" equal time, so you can "grow" and "learn" from the "experience" of "encountering" a "different point of view".
Horseshit! This is not some "bold move" to assist in the education of students by inviting a "controversial" speaker to talk about his "different views".
The difference between inviting someone with "different views" to speak as opposed to this cunt, is the difference between inviting Willis Carto to speak as opposed to Adolf Hitler.
Lance
You hit it spot on. To add to your previous statement, the President might as well also invite Kim Jong Il, Castro, Bashar al-Assad, and Osama bin Laden! This is bullshit.
Wait, WHAT? (extremely foul language follows)
The Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?
FUCK. ME. SIDEWAYS!
"Opportunities to hear, challenge, and learn from controversial speakers of different views are central to the education and training of students for citizenship in a shrinking and still dangerous world. This is especially true for SIPA students, many of whose careers will require them to confront human rights and security issues throughout the globe,"
Speakers of different views? Speakers of different fucking views?!?! That's what they are calling it now? FAAAAAAAAAAAAARK! Hey let's ressurect Stalin and Adolf and get them over for a chat, then they can speak about their "different" fucking views! WHAT THE FUCK?!
Ahmadinejad is not a "speaker" of a "different" fucking "view"! He is a practitioner of pure goddamn evil!
Faaaaaaaaark!
Erik
I have such lovely hands, that I would prefer to use, my soon to own, TaserC2. In pink.
Yes he is. For the annual UN
Yes he is. For the annual UN dictator orgy.
He even requested to visit ground zero and New York mulled it over for a month. Today Police Commissioner Kelley announced a refusal but weakly blamed it on security reasons.
Disgusting.
Liz
I'd show up and burn a flag of Iran. Maybe ask Ahmadinejad if he would sign a couple copies of the Satanic Verses and send them to the Shah's in Iran. Then punch the motherfucker in the face (or worse). Son of a bitch shouldn't even be allowed in the USA! As he taunts death to America and Israel and conspires to kill our boys in Iraq, our own Executive has the audacity to let this filthy animal set foot here on hollowed ground. This just makes my blood boil.
The President of Iran...
is going to America!? The CIA should kill/arrest him while they have the chance.