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Love and Friendship in Objectivism - Personal thoughtsSubmitted by James Heaps-Nelson on Tue, 2006-01-24 19:05.
What is the basis of love and friendship? Many Objectivists have maintained that shared intellectual values are paramount for a romantic relationship or friendship. I went through a stage myself where it was probably extremely important for me to surround myself with people who shared my intellectual values. I was still learning about my chosen values and who better to learn and develop with than those who shared my values and in many cases knew much more than I did? After a while though, you realize you really limit yourself with the "shared intellectual values" criteria. In romantic relationships, I realized I wanted to be silly and playful when I came home from work and I wasn't too worried about projecting masculine strength. I already had the deep, multilayered intellectual and personal sharing of Objectivism, higher mathematics, chemical engineering, physics, chess, tennis, evolutionary psychology etc. with my younger brother so I didn't really need that in a romantic relationship. I met my romantic soulmate on a vacation in Hawaii. She was beautiful and had the most curious, questioning, expressive eyes I'd ever met. She and I cemented our relationship hiking down the N'Pali coast on the west side of Kauai. She really impressed me because she wasn't afraid to get muddy and perservere to the end of the 3 mile trail. Since then, a whole new world has opened up to me. I've made a start at learning Mandarin and my wife has put up with me during several relocations in the semiconductor industry. We've hiked in about a third of the National Parks in the United States. I've been married to Rita for 4 years and known her for six. She's the love of my life and she has little interest in Objectivism. She's generally pro-capitalist in a wanting to be rich way, we both spend very little money, work long hours and share our spare time together. Jim
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...for sharing that James. I agree with you. To be crude, which I sometimes am, if I wanted to fall in love with myself, I would just stay at home and...well, grow hair on my palms. I want someone who shares my values, that would even be a requirement, but too often I see objectivists insisting on too much. For example, I may not agree with Lydia if she likes a poet such as Ezra Pound, but this is not a shattering of our common values. Pound I abhor, and I abhor his values, but when Lydia sees a genius in the imagery of the lines-
The apparition of these faces in the crowd;
Petals on a wet black bough.
I can only agree, and not explode in moral outrage for her daring to give any credence to such a vile fascist.
Also, I want someone who challenges me, and who introduces me to new things and new experiences.
Ciro D'Agostino
Ciro D'Agostino
Yes, James, Dr Branden
Yes, James, Dr Branden wrote that romantic love is not omnipotent--and those who believe it is are too immature to be ready for it. James, consider all the insecurities, the doubts, etc…that we bring to a romantic relation ship, like any other value in life , romantic love requires courage , knowledge, wisdom to sustain it. Romantic love is directly proportioned to a person’s psychological needs.
Dr Branden put it this way; I see its essence as the encounter of two selves who see in each other a mirror; an opportunity for the celebration of self and life; a doorway to our ultimate psychological (spiritual) home; and a challenge to the best within us.
Ciro D'Agostino
Ciro D'Agostino