that 'tane' chap seems a loudmouth, show off Maori doesn't he? gosh! such a bore.

Yes, I had (mercifully brief) dealings with Impey earlier this year, rather a shame at his attitudes...and the main losers will be the investors, alas.

"I create nothing. I own"

An utterly tedious blog by Labour-party hacks. They have reacted to your call for the overthrow of Clark and Cullen, and for a Roundtable-supported coup, with predictable venom. 228 comments and counting!

They hate me more than the skanky scumbuckets at Salient do! Mind you, I noted some excellent posts by some of our folk scattered throughout, including one from PC explaining why I was serious in saying this government has definitively forfeited its moral legitimacy.

Interesting that for all the high number of posts, it's the same 5 or 6 (anonymous) posters all the time. Guess they're sitting at home on the Sickness Benefit, supporting the government that pays them to be parasites.

That's a pity: I miss your shows.

(Bet they rated well also).

... started going downhill when Steven Joyce was bought out by Brent Impey a few years back. Impey is a fuckwit, a classic case of a talentless twat making it to the top in an industry where the folk with talent are actually doing the work and unattentive to who's greasing up the monkey-pole. When you hear Marcus Lush speaking total dribble on those TV trailers of Radio Live's breakfast show, that is Brent Impey's fuckwittery at work. Complete, unadulterated inanity. Mitch Harris, alas, lacks the guts to stand up to him. He is nominally in charge of programming decisions, but in reality is Impey's puppet.

Recently, Impey brought in another of those suited, weasel-word-spouting fuckheads, Brent Harman, to be his side-kick. Guess who was CEO at TVNZ when I called it "braindead"? Brent Harman! I guess that explains why Live haven't called me in to do talkback over the hols this year.

Oh, and I wasn't offended, indeed, that would be umbrage taking, and I think the Big Guy can tumble me for that. I was just pissed off

I see we're basically in agreement on all points.

I think the comments came from a wish to have access to that kind of funds so we could actually get some traction in the media and get our message out. I get frustrated when I see how well the GW lobby groups are organised and funded. I get frustrated when I see how we seem to be fighting a losing battle on all things logical and sensible.

Likewise. And of course this focuses us on our ever present Archilles Heel: in the GW campaign, and just about all points of contact we have with our philosophical enemies, they can ironically turn to our money, the huge global consolidated fund amount, to beat us back, where we are just a group of individuals fighting with what we get left.

That will always remain my central point of anger - well, one of the flash-points, in reality there are too many of them to count.

exactly would be wrong with a Roundtable conspiracy, anyway?

A proactive, Labour government destroying media/political machine is also the only thing which would protect the rich from Socialist theft, and preserve freedom and property rights and profits.

I think the rich should engage in the raising of substantial amounts of money to undermine Socialist governments and we should have started this 8 years ago...raised $10 million and really hammered Mrs Davis et al as soon as they stepped out of line.

I can only scratch my head in amazement at how the new owners of Canwest have not cracked the whip...changed Editorial policy 180 degrees.

How do they expect a return on the substantial amount of money they have invested unless there is a change of government enabling them to make greater profits?!?!

"I create nothing. I own"

Hi Mark,

You make a couple of good points. For some of which I needed to dig deeper before I wanted to reply. In fact I wrote a reply trying to use different words to justify my statement and gradually made it to the point that I realise my comments are ill considered.

Like you, I am doing alright. Like you, I could plonk a $100.000 on the table tomorrow for a campaign and it would not affect our lifestyle although it will set us back a couple of years. But I don't spend that kind of money either so if I were criticizing you then it would definitely also apply to me.

The thing is, my comment is not criticism to how you spend your money or anyone else. Any man chooses how he earns his money and how to spend it. Nobody and I repeat, NOBNODY has any business to tell you were to spend your money or that you are doing it wrong. It would surely piss me off too.

So I have to get back to my words and clarify what I did mean. When I spoke about rich people on Solo, I mean the sort that can spend $10.000 like it is this weekends spending money. But your arguments made me realise that the amount of money spend isn't the issue.

There may well be some rich guys on Solo who enjoy the philosophical discussions and don't want to distort the landscape by throwing money around. When I read back my initial comment I agree that what I said really doesn't have anything basis other than me not having seen people spending big money on Solo.

I think the comments came from a wish to have access to that kind of funds so we could actually get some traction in the media and get our message out. I get frustrated when I see how well the GW lobby groups are organised and funded. I get frustrated when I see how we seem to be fighting a losing battle on all things logical and sensible.

So I am sorry to have caused offence to you and others and hereby apologize for that. I actually enjoy the discussions on Solo and the razor sharp knifes held to your throat at times when you're not honest even without realising it. I learn from those comments and I thank you for that.

Carbon Tax is a hoax. Read more at the re-newed carbonhoax.org.nz and spread the word.

An utterly tedious blog by Labour-party hacks. They have reacted to your call for the overthrow of Clark and Cullen, and for a Roundtable-supported coup, with predictable venom. 228 comments and counting!

Then we may get a lot more traction.

'We', Mike?

Where did I miss the turn off to Damascus then?

Funnily enough, I first heard that Peikoff quote cited by Lindsay, while he was being interview by Prodos.

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Interested to know your definition of the lower classes LP? I have a recording of an interview with Leonard Peikoff, and he says he would rather entertain a truck driver than an 'upper class' person.

 This site needs one more person consigned to the rubbish bin along with Rick Giles.Then we may get a lot more traction.

I recomend you invest a Bentley car,everything about Bentleys is a one fingered salute to losers.
1 speed -and acceleration for all the safety nazis the 250 kmh plus maximum speed and zero to 100 acceleration is sure to offend
2 mass-want to conserve recources well to hell with that two and a half tons of steel at speed
3 leather-and lots of it good for pissing off animal rights activists
4 wood-wood in the interior for the tree huggers
5 5supercharged big bore V8-sock it to the climate changers and hybrid driverswith the no substitute for cubes supercharged 6 liter V8
6 expensive-costs enough to buy three state houses a big F U to cloth capped socialists
7 upper class asociations just your cup of tea

I do not particularly care about appearances...especially when the lower classes are concerned.

What annoys me is there are a substantial number of rich people in New Zealand who engage in egalitarian modesty and self denial because they are terrified of the opinions of the poor.

I say that a chap should live a regal lifestyle if he has the money, and forget about the rest.

"I create nothing. I own"

... "The Standard" blog?

A reminder not to wait for the usual suspects to churn something out. If there's something you want to say to the world, say it while you've got a mood on...

I'm getting a handle on your Salient posts now.

You have to talk like this to Clark and Co because  the old dogs are still tough.  But they are still dogs.

 I see The Standard blog had a go at you. You can speak your mind, LP. Just not too much. Because if you express your views in a direct full-throated manner, you might actually have an effect on something.

In my post below I said 'you definitely do not have the right to judge me morally in the way that I do choose to spend it.'

That could read very badly for me if I were not to qualify if as follows:

...you definitely do not have the right to judge me morally in the way that I do choose to spend it, so long as my expensing of it does not account toward the initiation of force on another individual or group.

Let us thrash this one out, because although I realise you are in a 'sense' talking in general, in the particular - me - this is an issue sometimes on my mind. Thus, in the below I am not taking umbrage, but for my own selfish purpose, I am confirming (not defining) a position that I hold to be true. Because you seem to have definite beliefs regarding this, which are the antithesis of my own, I would value hearing your response.

(Oh, the above plus you're just pissing me off ... onward.)

I have no intention to discredit peoples efforts, nor the value of their donations.

Excellent.

I don't know how much you spend on your political or philosophical convictions but I was talking about $100.000 ad campaigns. You know, real money. Money I don't have to spare. If you did spend that kind of money then it must have been terribly in-effective because I never heard of it.

I have not seen people in our midst that routinely spend $10.000 on their beliefs. So to me that picture supports the statement that the well heeled business people are either cowards or don't give a toss about the freedoms that enabled them to make their fortune in the first place.

Nope, you've done it again. Cowards, now, no less.

I could be flippant and ask who of us does have $100,000 to spare, it's a lot of money. But that is not the point, and as it happens, I could, today, draw $100,000 from a term deposit and spend it on an ad campaign, indeed, I could withdraw considerably more than that from term deposits and corporate bonds to spend on 'ad campaigns'. But, for the following reasons, I resent the guilt trip you're trying to place on me for not necessarily doing so. And it seems to me this strikes at issues which are fundamental to you and to me in our pursuit of a life lived in freedom.

Ends

There are a whole lot of goals I have in my life from which my career is now holding me back. These range from trifling matters such as I want to see much more of the world than I have seen at present, especially several years exploring Europe, to matters of absolute substance that currently deny much value from my life, and are beginning to seriously contribute to a mankiness of the humours. At the top of this list is that other than for two years after my first degree (and not even then as I was stoned for far too much of that time) I have not put time, effort and passion into my first artistic love, writing. Toward this end, often at the back of my mind is that many of my favourite writers had done their best work by 35, as the importance of drive/energy in/for writing cannot be denied, and I am now 42, with only a couple of credits in Landfall two decades ago, both pieces that are a nonsense from my current view of life/art.

Means

We (wife and I) are in the position of owning the house with a view and facilities that will probably see us both happily to the end of our days - dying in my bed watching the ocean and the gulls won't be so bad when it comes - plus, I should be able to semi-retire (properly, not the play acting I'm doing now, which consists still of eleven hour working days) in two to three years, before I'm 45, if I continue to invest the portfolio nest egg built thus far prudently. It will by no means be an extravagant life, and still subject to prioritising, not carte blanche ability to purchase at whim, so I will keep my home cinema running, as I love movies, enjoy fine food, but will continue to drive very average cars, etc.

The important thing I will truly have gained is time for the aforementioned ends.

And What is Justified

But, if I give even $100,000, which is still a hellish lot, to an 'ad campaign' then all of the above is set back by something in the range of thirteen or fourteen months. Indeed, if I go searching no doubt I can find any number of laudable activities to 'donate' my money to that would be seen as noble in the fight for freedom (which is, I agree, the most noble of ends). How much, though, of my life am I 'expected' by you to give, how much am I allowed to retain for my own goals and aspirations? Easy answer for me, it's solely at my discretion (and that is tipped heavily toward personal goals) and none of your business, and this lays no moral blight on me whatsoever. Agreed: yes/no?

What needles me in a post where you exhort me/businesspeople/Soloists/Libs to be spending our cash, is that I then feel the same frustration (I think that is the emotion) and anger (definitely), that I do when that other exhorter of my funds, Michael Cullen, comes trying to lay guilt trips on me. Now your use of my funds is far nobler, more, between us two we have 100% congruence in 'ends' sans freedom, but, on money I have earned, you not only don't have a say on how I spend it, you definitely do not have the right to judge me morally in the way that I do choose to spend it. It's my money. But your posts on this are a direct moral judgement, indeed, I believe you are saying that I am being selfish, of all things.

Well?

I hope I have not got this out of proportion, but there are just so many people who want to tell me how to spend my money, and doing this under-handedly by resort to that shitty emotion of 'guilt', that I've grown tired of it, and in the absence of Michael Cullen replying to me lately, I'm thinking I may have better luck chewing your head off instead.

(PS: brilliant Press Release Linz, I couldn't agree more.)

... has been sitting at #1 on Scoop Politics for much of the day. Now at #3. Scoop, of course, is just one of hundreds of media and parliamentary addresses to which the press releases are sent. A reminder not to wait for the usual suspects to churn something out. If there's something you want to say to the world, say it while you've got a mood on, send it to me at editor@freeradical.co.nz, and the world will hear it before you can say "spelling and punctuation."

Your "with extravagant displays of wealth so the failures in our society can be sneered at with a 'look what you can't afford' The concerns of the unwashed shouldn't occupy much of one's time. Do you really care about appearances that much? One's motivation should not be thinking about the second guessing of another.

But I posted it anyway. I have no intention to discredit peoples efforts, nor the value of their donations.

I don't know how much you spend on your political or philosophical convictions but I was talking about $100.000 ad campaigns. You know, real money. Money I don't have to spare. If you did spend that kind of money then it must have been terribly in-effective because I never heard of it.

I have not seen people in our midst that routinely spend $10.000 on their beliefs. So to me that picture supports the statement that the well heeled business people are either cowards or don't give a toss about the freedoms that enabled them to make their fortune in the first place.

Carbon Tax is a hoax. Read more at the re-newed carbonhoax.org.nz and spread the word.

I heard the Right Dishonorable Helen Clark on the news with that fake, supercilious laugh, mocking "the money well wasted" at the pathetic numbers gathered from such an expensive automated phone call-out, babbling on about the Roundtable Conspiracy and the unfair advantage of the rich whose "pocket money" can swing elections...

This, from the evil bitch who stole $800,000 from her own citizens to illegally fund her election victory!

The hypocrisy makes me retch!!!

I noticed that on Solo and Libertarianz there don't seem to be members with enough passion to spend real money that can make a difference.

Paul, I love the enthusiasm you show on here, and your willingness to put your money where your mouth is, but this is at least the second time you've lobbed this one in.

Just a question: how do you know how much of my money I'm spending on SOLO activities, or more particularly, outside SOLO, furthering the course of my beliefs? Perhaps we should write Paul's EFB, so you can keep a register to track our private spending decisions? Oh no, hang on, I was marching against just that last Wednesday

Also, probably some on SOLO are not all that flush with cash just at the moment, I can recall at least three or four posts from members currently between jobs, plus there are, heaven forbid, the odd student misfit who have made their way onto here, and many of these members, outside providing for themselves and families (their primary concern, as it should be) are still putting an inordinate amount of time and passion in.

I believe that the individual should make moral judgments on those they are dealing with, and on the issues that surround them, but they should be informed and, therefore, not dumb, judgments. That could lead to quite justified umbrage taking

But thanks for the next two issue of Samizdat ... Excellent!

"Lindsay is correct that some rich people in New Zealand are wimps...scared of their own shadow and the opinions of working class people."

Interesting you bring that up. I noticed that on Solo and Libertarianz there don't seem to be members with enough passion to spend real money that can make a difference.

You have to spend money to make a point these days hence the EFB. What an evil bitch.

Carbon Tax is a hoax. Read more at the re-newed carbonhoax.org.nz and spread the word.

it seems the Socialist way...that of smearing and creating bogeymen out of nothing.

Gosh...if I had a spare $1 million I would happily be paying for this campaign, and it would be a lot more effective than what Mr Boscawen has done...(which has been very effective, btw).

Lindsay is correct that some rich people in New Zealand are wimps...scared of their own shadow and the opinions of working class people.
They should not only be more vocal, but also more 'visual' ...with extravagant displays of wealth so the failures in our society can be sneered at with a 'look what you can't afford'.

"I create nothing. I own"

I heard that on the radio this morning. What an arrogant bunch of #$%$#%@$

They go straight for the mud and start slinging it rather than discuss the actual issues. The fact that 5000 mature and responsible Kiwi's stood up is totally lost on them. And we are not talking you average easy to influence students here either.

Who gives a flying ^#$&^@#$$ who paid for the adverts and signs. I was there because I wanted to be there. The suggestion that my presence on that march can be bought is a personal insult.

Carbon Tax is a hoax. Read more at the re-newed carbonhoax.org.nz and spread the word.