Death to Islam! [Reprised to mark latest Islamatrocities in ... I've given up itemising the locations. Today, August 17, 2017: Barcelonistan]

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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Mon, 2006-02-06 23:49

[Note—June 13, 2016, following the killing of 50+ attendees at an Orlando gay nightclub: I hope LGBT moronnials, the Pink Swastika carriers who support the Islamappeasing agenda of Obama and remain silent, as he does, about Islam's routine killing of gays while loudly propounding a totalitarian PC agenda of their own, will be awakened by yesterday's slaughters to the nature of Islam in particular and tyranny in general.]

No, this is not a call to genocide. I leave that to the Islamo-fascist filth who yearn to perpetrate it: “Death to Israel!” “Death to America!” “Death to the Infidel!” and so on.

They’ve been out in force recently, these squalid savages, these bigoted barbarians, these hysterical humanity-haters, these tawdry terrorists, these god-ridden grotesqueries, these ignoble ignoramuses, these genocidal jihadists … burning flags and embassies because their super-superstitious sensibilities were offended by some cartoons in a Danish newspaper. In London they took advantage of the freedom they so despise, this murderous mass of Muslim maggotry, to infest the streets, sporting signs such as “Freedom Go To Hell!” “Prepare For The REAL Holocaust!” and “Annihilate [massacre, exterminate/butcher/behead] those who would insult Islam!” In the name of humanity, Islam must be put to death. Not by nuking, but by shaming. Not by the sword (though if the maggots leave us no alternative we should not hesitate to use it) but by the word. Human beings worthy of the title must rise up and shout in irresistible unison: “Enough of this primordial primitivism! We who are civilised are revolted by it and shall rebuff it at every turn!” Muslims must discover rationality and decency; Westerners must rediscover them, and, as a matter of urgency, speak up for them! All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for cowards to appease it—and Islam is the locus of evil in the contemporary world.

There’s been far too much appeasement of it. The U.S. State Department, with merely a nod in the direction—rather than a ringing defence—of freedom of the press, has pronounced the cartoons, lampooning Mohammed, “unacceptable” because they cause “offence” to Muslims. Would cartoons ridiculing Stalin have been deemed unacceptable for causing offence to communists? Has the State Department forgotten that there is no such thing as a right not to be offended? That free speech includes the right to say things others will find offensive? CNN has declined to screen the cartoons “out of respect for Islam.” Leaving aside that Islam is not worthy of an iota of respect (while the right to believe in it or any other form of nonsense is worthy of utmost respect), has CNN forgotten that the freedom of publication on which it is so reliant is endangered by such cowardly self-censorship? Even the Danish newspaper that originally published the cartoons—precisely as a challenge to the maggots’ insistence that their feelings be given special consideration—has apologised for causing offence. Freedom, and with it the world, is perishing from an orgy of apologising to a global harem of empty-headed, malevolent umbrage-takers.

Let us not forget that while Muslims are the locus of totalitarianism, they are aided and abetted by an array of allied ayatollahs, woeful witch-doctors of every hue. I quote from the Horror File of the upcoming Free Radical:

“Christian and Muslim church leaders have rallied to stop a South Park episode, that depicts the Virgin Mary bleeding, from going to air. … The episode, which the CanWest channel plans to screen in May, shows a statue of the Virgin Mary bleeding. A cartoon character of Pope Benedict is called to investigate and declares she is menstruating. ‘Chicks bleed all the time’ he says. … Catholic Communications Director Lyndsay Freer said representatives of the Council of Christians and Jews and Council of Christians and Muslims, Anglican Bishops, the Salvation Army and other church leaders have signed the letter requesting that C4 not screen the episode. ‘The letter pointed out it would give offence to a great many people.’ (Dominion Post, January 30, 2006)"

Yes, a global harem of umbrage-takers. Reassuringly, C4 is going to screen the episode regardless of these two-bit totalitarians. And television channels and most major newspapers in New Zealand have not only published the Danish cartoons but defended their right to do so. The Dominion Post, in an editorial that is superior to most of what has come out of mainstream American media on the subject, said:

“Modern society rests on the contest of ideas, the ability to question perceived wisdom and to challenge authority. Without that contest, and without the right to free speech that makes it possible, societies stultify and become entrenched in their beliefs. That freedom to question and to challenge must include the right to be offensive, to affront people’s most heartfelt beliefs, even to disparage that which they hold sacred. Otherwise it is an empty freedom. … There have been earlier cultural confrontations between the West and a resurgent Islam, beginning with the death sentence pronounced in 1989 on author Salmon Rushdie for The Satanic Verses, and including the murder in 2004 of Dutch film-maker Theo van Gogh after he made a film dealing with violence against Islamic women. They are confrontations the West cannot afford to lose. The right to freedom of speech is a precious one that must be defended.”

It cannot be defended—indeed, it can only be betrayed—by apologetic weasel-worders appeasing militant, murderous morons whose savage pseudo-sensibilities have been stirred, not by sticks and stones, but by words. May men of righteous rationality reignite the flame of reason and fight an unapologetic philosophical jihad in its holy name, that it may illumine the globe and save the world from another Dark Ages. Death to Islam—and all forms of tyranny over the minds of men!


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9/11

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I haven't forgotten or forgiven. And Muslims certainly haven't properly apologized. Death to this monstrously false and evil philosophy!

Islamo-Marxist Obleftivism

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"Those Muslim immigwants into Euwope are nothing more than pests. ... The weal thweat to Western Civilisation is Donald Twump."

"Evewyday Muslims are not a pwoblem. Stop being afwaid."

—Yawon Bwook

"Cop"

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Linz,

This story has largely been ignored by the Objectivist world. OK, they don't agree with affirmative action, but they can't see how evil it was what Minnesota did. They can't admit that allowing millions of these kinds of people into the country is making our situation worse, "irregardless" of how much self-esteem Americans have or should have.

On the video I linked to Brook said that "Mexicans aren't killing anybody" (in the US). Then why are there as many Hispanics in US prisons for murders as whites?

Here is Robert Spencer on Noor: https://www.jihadwatch.org/201...

"Cop" who shot Aussie woman ...

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... in Minnesota was Islamofilth, fast-tracked to graduation under an Affirmative Action policy:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017...

Has Yawon ensconced the Minnesota Muslims on the golf courses in his gated community yet?

Not all millennials are moronnials!

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Austrian youth strive to save the city of Johann Strauss from Islamofilth:

Texas Bans Sharia Law

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Welcome to Texas. A Sharia-Free Zone. Please set your watches forward 1400 years.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/...

He knows nothing about Islam,

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He knows nothing about Islam, but he knows that it's peaceful.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...

PJW

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Excellent expose of the Mayor of Londonistan and its loathsome inhabitants:

Now Theresa May ...

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... is stepping up protection of mosques. Close them down more like! Step up protection of humans! To Iran with Theresa May!

Apparently it was a man from Wales...

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but I just have to point out that not all Welsh are radicals! Smiling
And they have one of the most beautiful national anthems. It's the anthem of peace. Eye

It isn't inevitable in a

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It isn't inevitable in a multicultural society. It is inevitable in the face of the undeclared war. Have they said yet who did this? Maybe it was Shia on Sunni. Or even Sunni on Muslims they consider apostates.

London Attack

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While it's disgraceful to attack Muslims, it's inevitable in a multicultural society. Even in Sunni Saudi Arabia the Shites attack; there was just an attack by Sunnis against the (Shiite) Iranian Parliament.

So much for ...

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calling for responsibility and waiting until all the facts come in.

"Rampant Islamophobia"!

Very Orwellian.

Latest from Londonistan

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Islamofilth are calling this latest Islamatrocity in Londonistan an act of Islamophobia. Doesn't get much more Orwellian than this. Meanwhile the usual nauseating platitudes from politifilth. Note how these outrages are now routinely referred to as "incidents."

To Iran with all Muslims and politifilth and their Obleftivist enablers!

The Muslim Council of Britain has confirmed that worshippers leaving Finsbury Park Mosque were targeted when a van ran into them, adding: ‘Our prayers are with the victims.’
One person has been killed and eight have been taken to hospital with two others being treated at the scene following the terror attack.

Secretary general Harun Khan said: ‘During the night, ordinary British citizens were set upon while they were going about their lives, completing their night worship.

‘My prayers are with the victims and their families. It appears from eyewitness accounts that the perpetrator was motivated by Islamophobia.

‘Over the past weeks and months, Muslims have endured many incidents of Islamophobia, and this is the most violent manifestation to date.

‘Given we are approaching the end of the month of Ramadan and the celebration of Eid with many Muslims going to local mosques, we expect the authorities to increase security outside mosques as a matter of urgency.’

Mr Khan added: ‘Many will feel terrorised, no doubt be angry and saddened by what has taken place tonight.

‘We urge calm as the investigation establishes the full facts, and in these last days of Ramadan, pray for those affected and for justice.’

Mohammed Shafiq, Chief Executive of the Ramadhan Foundation said: ‘I utterly condemn the senseless and evil van attack against Muslim worshippers outside the Finsbury Park Mosque in London.

‘According to eye witnesses this was a deliberate attack against Innocent Muslims going about their life.

Forensics teams working at the scene this morning where a man was killed (Picture: Getty)
‘We should make clear that if this attack is confirmed as a deliberate terrorist attack then this should be classed as an act of terrorism.

‘The British Muslim community requires all decent people to stand with us against this evil violence.

‘Rampant Islamaphobia has been on the rise for a number of years and those on the far right have perpetuated hatred against Muslims. They should be called out for their hatred.

‘The days ahead will be difficult, but with unity and tolerance we will prevail. We will not allow these far right extremists to divide our diverse communities.

‘Enough is enough, my condolences and prayers for all the victims and their families. They are in my prayers.'

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/19/...

Bengali muslims take over suburbs of Rome

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This video is pretty terribly translated in some parts, but I think it gives a pretty clear picture nonetheless. In some of the "unintelligible" parts the people say even worse things about the muslims than in those which are translated. A couple of them when asked: "Isn't that racist?" Respond "Yes. Yes, it is."

I think the most interesting comments come from the man responding at 4:30~

-"What do you think about the opening of another mosque?"
- "Burn it. ... They are not inclusive so neither am I. If they were more tolerant, I would be more tolerant."

It's clear that people who live in the same neighbourhoods of these immigrant muslim communities, and not behind some gated community or in the city centre, are getting extremely fed up with the situation. They are no longer afraid of being called racist, even in front of the camera of a big news network. These people have seen their neighbourhood completely transformed. They've seen a radical transformation, to borrow from Obummer.

Look at the imam's eyes at 2:40 ... would you trust a person that looks like that?

That old lady... afraid of walking out of her home! The young woman, openly calling them disgusting on television. "Yes. I am bit racist." She says.

The main theme of the video was clear: this neighbourbood is no longer italian. This isn't part of Italy anymore.

Problem is ...

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.... Theresa May is gutless, part of The Filth. Remember it was she who banned Pam Geller from entering Britain. An Islamofilth suicide bombing of Parliament would be win-win. Human Britons must now demand mass deportations.

British Muslims Boast That They Almost Gave Labour A Victory

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This follows earlier analysis by the Muslim Council of Britain which identified 16 constituencies where the impact of Muslim communities could be “high”. In these seats, the swing in the majority towards Labour was 7,789 on average (equivalent to c.16% of the electorate vs. c.2% national swing). Every one of these 16 seats is now held by the Labour party:

11 previously Labour seats: the Labour vote was strengthened in every seat
5 previously Conservative seats: Labour gained every seat from the Conservatives

In the 23 constituencies where the MCB determined the impact of Muslim communities as “medium”, the swing in the majority towards Labour (or the Liberal Democrats in the Conservative-Lib Dem marginal Kingston & Surbiton) was 6,839 on average (c. 15% of the electorate vs. c.2% national swing):

16 previously Labour seats: the Labour vote was strengthened in every seat except for Bolton North East
7 previously Conservative seats:
In 5 seats, the margin of victory was decreased but remained Conservative (swing to Labour)
In 1 seat, the Liberal Democrats gained from the Conservatives
In 1 seat, the Conservatives increased their majority in Bolton West by 135

Harun Khan, Secretary General of the MCB said: “There is no block Muslim vote, nor can we know how Muslims have voted. What we can see, however, is Muslim and BME communities, in particular the young, enthused and involved in the political process across the country. In the 39 constituencies where Muslim communities could have had an impact, it appears they have done so.
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Note that according Brook and Binswanger, Muslim immigrants are making the UK a better place.

Voltaire

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Regarding Ed's post three comments above: Maybe the capitals of Pakistan, Iran, and Saudi Arabia need to be attacked while the bombardiers write on their bombs and shout: "This is for Voltaire!"

Hitchens - Resist While You Can.

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Defend free speech while we've still free to speak.

Should be on the national news.

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Real Islam

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That Texas sheriff from Lindsay discusses Islam as it really is. "Convert or die" is the Muslims' philosophy. Why is it most Objectivists don't get this obvious point? Why all the talk about "radicals," "extremists," and Islamists?" The enemy is normal Islam and Muslims.

Excellent video, Lindsay

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It said so much, so clear and fast, of what needed to be said.

This is the real way moderate Muslims can win respect and differentiate themselves from the sick dogs that blow people up. If moderates are afraid to speak out then that's fair enough, but courage means taking risks for what's right. So moderates - have courage! Because the world doesn't ultimately survive with it.

Note, the guy who said the quran does not promote 'killing innocent people' probably does not, himself, consider infidels to be innocent!

One of These Two Muslims Is Honest!

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Spot-on Faecesbook Post about Islamofilth ...

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... by a Texas sheriff:

Tracy Murphree
May 23 at 2:56pm · Sanger, TX, United States ·
Pay attention to what you see in Manchester England tonight. Pay attention to what is happening in Europe. This is what happens when you disarm your citizens. When you open your borders without the proper vetting. When you allow political correctness to dictate how you respond to an enemy that wants to kill you. When you allow these radicals to travel to Afghanistan and Iran and simply let them back in. When you give up your city's and your neighborhoods to a religious ideology that says you must convert or die. A ideology that treats women as property, kills gays and women and christians with complete impunity. The left tells us we must submit and accept these radical beliefs and bend over backwards to make sure we don't hurt anybody's feelings. The left wants to cater to the very group that would kill every group they claim to support. Folks this is an enemy hell bent on killing you. Committed to forcing you to convert or die. This enemy will strap bombs to their own body and blow themselves up killing children. I'm sick of it. You better wake up America. While you are distracted by the media and the crying of the left, Islamic Jihadist are among us and want to kill you. What will it take? This happening at a concert in Dallas or a school in Denton County? If we don't do something quick this country will die of political correctness and the fear that someone's feelings may be hurt. It may very well be too late for Europe.

https://www.facebook.com/tracy...

I Agree: Drive Them Out!

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Someone should tell President Trump: "Drive them out of America!" The problem isn't the Saudies and their philosophy. It's the Americans and their philosophy. Enough already with this PC MC anti-American philosophy of self-hatred and self-destruction. The Americans, British, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Israelis, etc. need to finally, and at long last, defend themselves. Yes, indeed: Drive them out!

Drive them out!

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The Filth has struck again.

Drive them out!!!

Death to Islam!!!

Magnificent Milo!

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http://www.breitbart.com/milo/...

Excerpt:

One of the first things to disappear in the wake of a terrorist attack is humour. That’s one of the things they want. They want to make us afraid.

When we’re afraid, we don’t dare laugh in case it’s the wrong thing to do.

But laughing is one of the ways we show we’re okay, and that there can be a future beyond what has happened.

We aren’t going to beat Islamic terror only with tanks and bombs. We’re going to beat it with ideology. We’re going to beat it with laughter — by showing the people who live in countries ruled by dictators and thugs that they will not make us afraid.

By showing them that the West is best.

That’s how the Berlin Wall fell. People in East Germany knew that West Germany was better.

The freedoms enjoyed in this country, the best country, are, or should be the envy of the world. And when people are truly free, they laugh. They laugh about everything.

It’s often said that in order to find out who is in power, you have to find out who you’re not allowed to laugh about.

Today that’s feminists, Black Lives Matter and Islam. Those are the groups that will get you into trouble if you crack jokes about. You’ll have your newspaper column taken away. You’ll be banned from Twitter.

Of all these groups, Islam is the most inherently hilarious.

Their outfits are hilarious. Ridiculous. Is there anything more comically sinister than the sight of a herd of women swathed in black bedsheets?

Anything more unintentionally ironic about a religion that hates gays that gets its men in a room together 5 times a day to stick their asses in the air?

Is there anything more richly amusing than the crybully faux-victimhood of those who worry about “islamophobia” and hijab-pulling in the wake of terror attacks that leave dozens dead?

Is there — and perhaps this is just my gallows humour — anything more darkly funny than a religion so thin-skinned that cartoons designed to provoke it give rise to deadly shootings, as though to prove the point of those French cartoonists?

Is there anything more preposterous than the phrase “The Religion of Peace”?

Islam is really funny.

But it’s also sinister. And as a gay man, I really don’t like it very much.

It’s easy to bleat about Christianity. It’s low-hanging fruit. It’s more difficult, and it takes more bravery, to criticise Islam with sincerity and seriousness. And with jokes.

Most people don't care,

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Most people don't care, Andrew. You can tell them all you like (and I think most people know by now) but they do not care.

They have no problem owning

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They have no problem owning up. I remember Ashraf Choudhary when he was in parliament saying that death for apostasy was fine for an Islamic country, along with death for homosexuality and adultery, but not in New Zealand because it isn't an Islamic country. That should have ended his parliamentary career there and then, but it didn't.

Apostasy

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Absolutely no religion that kills you for leaving it can be seen as benign. It's on a whole new level. It's evil.

....I know I'm stating the obvious, but I wanted to say it anyway.

Also most people in the West will not know that you get the death penalty for leaving Islam, in Islamic countries. And most people will not know that apostasy, the word, means 'leaving your faith'.

My point is that this is where the mass-public conversation needs to begin. Basic facts that kill the aura of religious innocence.

Dawkins vs The Filth

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Richard Dawkins finally gets a piece of Islamotrash to own up:

It isn't actually an

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It isn't actually an Objectivist position. It's a leftist position.

"The Objectivist position on this is one of their most retarded (and unlikeable) stances."

Japan - 2 rapists out of 27

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Well, Poland doesn't have Islamic terror attakcs. What aspects of its foreign policy with respect to the Islamic world do you think are causing such a low rate of Jihadist attacks?

That right there *refutes* the entire Objectivist (and NeoCon) foreign policy. I would use Japan as well. But guess what? Japan accepted 27 refugees (why) and:

http://www.barenakedislam.com/...

Of the 27 taken in, two have already raped Japanese women. These people are savages from a savage culture. They should be shamed worldwide by kicking them out everywhere and locking them into the confines of their historic lands. We should not be importing them or fighting to improve their home countries.

The Objectivist position on this is one of their most retarded (and unlikeable) stances.

Pries Beheaded In France & Another Question For Brook

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If only we had nuked Saudi Arabia.

It's getting hard to keep up with these attacks. There was one reported yesterday in Germany, but I'm not sure if the story referred to a previous attack.

Mr. Brook: You said that the problem isn't caused by immigration but by bad foreign/military policy. Well, Poland doesn't have Islamic terror attakcs. What aspects of its foreign policy with respect to the Islamic world do you think are causing such a low rate of Jihadist attacks?

Explosion in Ansbach

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How much of this will Europeans take? Listen to Molyneux describe the type of Muslim torture that the Leftist media is deliberately covering up:

This is our enemy, both of them: the Left and Islam.

And yet, go to any Ortho or Orgoist website or Twitter feed and what will you find? "Left boot, right boot", "Trump is fascist", "don't blame immigrants blame collectivism", bla, bla, bla.

Really, its getting to the point where I can see people of good will turning to some authoritarian right wing political movement. Muslims are killing pregnant women in the streets and Leftist politicians want to import more of them.

And so do Objectivists.

A Question For Yaron Brook

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A pregnant German woman and her unborn child were just murdered by a knife wielding Syrian immigrant.

Is there anything that would prompt you to reconsider your support for open immigration of Muslims?

Linz

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The book arrived. I've started reading it. Unfortunately music isn't my strong suit.

Neil

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If group A has an average IQ of 100 and group B has an average IQ of 85 they will produce different cultures. You've got to be a pomowonker not to realize that.

That's "pomowanker," not "pomowonker." You've got to be a pomowanker not to realise that. Sticking out tongue

Actually, I'm wondering why NIOF should be so difficult for dummies to grasp. These days, it's the so-called intelligentsia who don't seem to get it.

I once got into terrible trouble for saying that it takes a brain to appreciate Rachmaninoff. That's the truth of it. No gathering of Rach fans will ever be stupid ... or violent. Non-whites often get, and perform, Rach. More than can be said for OrgOism, when you think about it.

Has my Mario book arrived?

Brook...

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...is a rabid rationalist on this (and other) subjects. He is incapable of ever coming into contact with reality in this area. To him a war against immigration is a war against the entire system of liberty. He's unwilling to see anything else. That *is* blind ideology. And that is what Conservatives mean when they say that "ideology" is inherently destructive (and leftist).

The irony is that the type of open immigration Brook advocates would destroy America and Europe; the two areas on the planet even remotely capable of establishing the "individualist utopia" he envisions.

Yaron Says Immigration Doesn't Increase Crime

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This is the most wanted list from Minneapolis (Hennepin County) Minnesota.

http://www.hennepinsheriff.org...

Yaron Brook is a fool.

Yaron Brook The Fool

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If anyone can understand his views on immigration, you are more rational than me.

To the best I can understand he supports open immigration of anyone, eventually, including Muslims.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/y...

Richard

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If it wasn't for Jihad, there would be no concern, but because there is, it comes down to self-preservation and the right to self-defense.

But Jihad is central to Islam. There is *no* Islam without Jihad. Islam is a perpetual solicitation to commit war. There can never be a peace between the Islamic world and the infidel. The only way for peace is for Islam to change internally and cease being truly Islamic. I can't imagine that happening in any timeframe less than centuries.

So if you truly value self-defense then that means recognizing Islam as the mortal enemy of the European world (and the entirety of anti-Muslim humanity) and Muslims as the transportation medium of that disease. Neither can be allowed in a society that avows to love liberty. The way you stated things is too soft; the softest I've seen from you come to think of it.

That is open to anyone, no matter what colour they are, to fight for, achieve, and then defend.

When I look at the world, the freest places are those with high IQ people. The hellholes are full of low IQ people. With an average IQ in the low and mid 90s you get countries with some 1st world areas but 3rd world ghettos (that make the country in total an unpleasant place especially if you are not upper class) . Whether or not Randian style liberty can be transferred to all the races on earth remains to be seen. Hell, it remains to be seen if whites themselves will not totally abandon liberty for Leftism. I see no future timeline in which racial genetics does not become important.

It's Not Genetics

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Linz:

Charles Murray (of The Bell Curve Fame) said recently that within 3 years we'll know one way or another whether racial differences in intelligence have a genetic basis. (Actually he said w/in 3 years we will know they do.)

If group A has an average IQ of 100 and group B has an average IQ of 85 they will produce different cultures. You've got to be a pomowonker not to realize that.

The Brotherhood of Man

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Without a shadow of a doubt, the future will consist of whites and blacks living, working, playing, and loving together in perfect harmony. They will ruthlessly exploit each other's strengths and weaknesses, interacting and meshing in pure peace and cooperation. So too men and women, straights and gays, young and old, artists and engineers, etc. And all will uphold and promote liberal philosophy and politics with ease.

So too with Neanderthals, if they get revived, and Martians, if they get discovered. Once an intelligent species is taught reason, individualism, and freedom, virtually all social problems are close to instantly resolved. That's not pollyanna -- that's reality.

It's not genetics

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It's indoctrination.

There are civilised blacks and uncivilised whites. Lotsa the latter within OrgOism, lauding headbanging and all the rest of multiculturalism. White OrgOists are bigger enemies than civilised blacks like Leontyne Price. How can these "alt-right" types not see that? I'm now all for apartheid: one side based on brains and meritocracy, quarantining all trash—the other, the trash, consisting significantly, inevitably, of Muslims.

Islamindoctrination

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Islam can be banned because

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Islam can be banned because we are at war. If it wasn't for Jihad, there would be no concern, but because there is, it comes down to self-preservation and the right to self-defence.

"I would say that if liberty is to have a future, it will not be the race blind"

All that is needed is people who value liberty who are capable of seeing that it is, in Rands definition, a value to be achieved and then defended. That is open to anyone, no matter what colour they are, to fight for, achieve, and then defend.

It is a selfish thing, but so many Libertarians, I think, approach it altruistically.

I know, Kryel, but I struggle

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I know, Kryel, but I struggle with this idea that genetics has something to do with culture and morality. I could see a potential link between intelligence and genetics, but culture and morality doesn't wash with me. It is the realm of ideas, not genes. And how much intelligence is actually needed to understand the moral idea that it is wrong to mug or rape someone? Not much I don't think.

Individualism

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Richard -- I was talking about whites as a group -- not individual whites. Not you. Everyone is different. Different whites have different individual characteristics, both good and bad and neutral. I'm a radical Individualist. I'm fully aware that each person is different from every other person. That's how I always judge and treat them.

Islam first , racial hereditarianism later

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If you want the minarchist night watchman state then you can not allow Islam within your borders. Islam can not be conceived of as just a religion or ideological phenomenon. It is many things simultaneously, all of them bad. It is a political ideology, a totalitarian legal system, a tactical war movement, a land grab for despotic elites, a Machiavellian subversive psy-ops campaign, a degenerate sexual cult that perpetuates systematic pedophilia, and all of this conducted by a dangerous and culturally alien 5th column (that today unbelievably is considered a "victim group" by the left because they are not white and not Christian). Islam needs to be banned from Western Nations and anyone with connections to Islamic culture *even if they are not Muslim* needs to be prohibited from entry. The policy should be "Separationism"; ie total separation from Islam and its peoples (combined with quarantining Muslims inside their historic lands).

If the Objectivist movement understood that and advocated that even with all the other blank slate bullshit they believe in, I would feel that the movement was fundamentally valuable and had merit (and maybe a future). But O'ism is in denial of Islamo-realism and openly argues for the opposite set of policies thinking that devastating war against a few countries while allowing Islam itself to exist within the West is the solution (the Rear Admiral Yawon Bwook war strategy).

Racial hereditarianism and how it affects liberty politics is a much harder subject. I think banning Islam can be legitimately argued under Rand's paradigm. But arguing for racial or ethno-nationalist based demographics is much harder (and is probably outside the parameters of Rand's thought no matter how skillfully stretched with upgraded knowledge).

Personally I do think that certain races can be considered inherently dangerous and treated the same way as a dangerous ideological phenomenon like Islam (Africans for certain). But I haven't worked out how and I doubt I ever will. I am not a philosopher. But if I had to bet on the future, I would say that if liberty is to have a future, it will not be the race blind ("race doesn't matter all that matters is individuals, bla, bla, bla,") individualism you see with libertarians and Objectivists today. Genetics *will* eventually be factored into the liberty equation. But I also feel that this will occur with time as it becomes both observationally and biologically understood that multi-racial societies are unsustainable.

I know that's a dark position to hold but that's where I'm at. And as I see fewer and fewer whites relative to blacks, browns and beiges, I become more convinced American multi-racialism is doomed.

I don't evade it, Kyrel. I'm

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I don't evade it, Kyrel. I'm more immoral, criminal, and animalistic than East Asians and Jews. How could I not be? I'm white.

No-One Wants to Hear It

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As Doug bravely notes two comments above, there's a powerful argument to be made, based on current evidence, that blacks, Hispanics, and Arabs are naturally, significantly more immoral, criminal, and animalistic than whites. Also that whites are naturally, significantly more immoral, criminal, and animalistic than east Asians and Jews. But these hypotheses wildy violate almost-universal notions of democracy, equality, and egalitarianism. So evasion and fraud on these pivotal issues are rife.

Christianity vs Islam

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This is a good video (only 14 min) on the differences b/w Islam and Christianity using the Seven Deadly Sins of Christianity vs The Seven Sins that doom a person to Hell of Islam. You see that Christianity's sins are borrowed from Greek philosophy, namely the Stoics and that they all can be expressions of a desire to improve moral character (there is alot of that in Christianity). But when you look at Islam's sins you see that they are designed as control over people and the defense of Islam as such. Also, the speaker makes a great point at the end that Islam is inherently *more collectivist* than Christianity because it has an in-group / out-group dichotomy built right into its core. There is a dual morality in Islam that there is not in Christianity. Form Muslims, non-Muslims are owed no moral concern.

And yet Objectivists think that all religions are equally as "epistemologically flawed" and that Muslims should be allowed in the country if they are not "Islamists". The non-Objectivist world is capable of making solid arguments that O'ists with their Randian epistemology can't. Depressing.

Not just Islam

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Yes but an important point is that even without Islam, Middle Eastern and North African and Black African immigrants would be dangerous anyway. They are lower IQ and higher crime prone; much higher. The estimates of rapists as percentages of total population in African nations is very high. There would be problems with these people even without Islam. With Islam this population becomes nightmarish.

Look at the destruction that blacks and Mestizos have done to America without Islam. You can blame welfare statism all you want but the reality is that even with the same crappy welfare state system, if America were an all white country it would be a utopia compared to what it is today.

Black and brown people are dangerous because of the culture they bring with them which is related to their group biology. Equatorial region people are a problem everywhere. It goes beyond just Islam.

Neil

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Here's an article about the link between Islam and crime.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/201...

The recent import to Germany

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The recent import to Germany who yesterday attacked passengers on a train with an axe.

Absolutely Islam

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His uncle just testified he got "radicalised"—i.e., persuaded to take Islam seriously—a couple of weeks ago.

The French must go for vigilante-ism, since their govt has enabled the Islamofilth. Torch their ghettos and drive them right back to Africa. Retaliatory force against those who have initiated it, in the context of war declared by them.

Richard

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I don't know the details, but it's important not to downplay the crime that is committed by Muslims. The are 50% of the prison population of France.

This is something Objectivists such as Brook don't talk about either. They want you to think the only problem is terrorism, which will go away when we nuke Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Neil

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The Tunisian's very attack was an act of worship. So, that on the surface he appeared to be a nominal muslim is really pretty meaningless. He redeemed himself through martyrdom and found his place in paradise.

Mark

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You made a good point. The Tunisian driver was a low level criminal and apparently a nominal Muslim. This act was probably the culmination of his pathetic life. Brook wants to turn Islamic crime into jihad to support his nuke Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Looks like the official

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Looks like the official channel of the sheriffs department.

My old friend Laurence Auster commented that everything has to be cute and hip today.

Support your local police, Orlando ...

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Over-the-top disgusting.
Orange County Sheriff’s Office participates in the Keep Dancing Orlando challenge
Tell me it’s a hoax, please.

Or simply accused of not

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Or simply accused of not being Objectivists. Their lack of objectivity is surely not the fault of Objectivism, the philosophy, but of their own lack of concern for it.

"This is where Objectivists can readily be accused of being blank slate naive utopian idealists"

Brook is truly ignorant

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He also claims that Hispanics vote Democratic because the Republicans are (allegedly) anti-immigration.

This is an easily researchable subject. There is so much data out there showing that Hispanics vote Leftist because they are Leftist. Yet Objectivists from Biddle to Binsawnger to Brook all make this idiotic and easily falsifiable claim.

It's that the French, being leftists & multiculturalists, aren't willing to "convert" Muslims.

This is where Objectivists can readily be accused of being blank slate naive utopian idealists (just like many Classical Liberals) that have no understanding of human nature. Brook's claim is also the leftist claim: that Muslims can be assimilated and turned away from Islam; that exposing them to either left-liberal egalitarianism or right-liberal individualism will convert them away from Islam and Jihad. There is so much ignorance in that that it makes my brain hurt. And both Leftists and Objectivists hold to the same fundamental idea: Muslims can be won over by some variant of liberalism.

And that is my biggest problem with the Objectivist movement. Their refusal to see that Islam is a thought system incompatible with "the non-initiation of physical force or the THREAT of force" and that Muslims are incubators of this virulent thought disease known as Islam. The solution is EXCLUSION of all Muslims from Western nations. Individualism does not apply to them. The Objectivist view that it does and that "better Muslims" should have the right to be here is suicidal. That alone is enough to turn off most people that would be interested in limited government liberty. And that one piece of advocacy is enough to ensure Objectivism will never "capture any culture".

Brook: Invade the world, invite the world, convert the world

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Brook said early on in the broadcast that the problem with Jihadists is not genetic or even their upbringing. It's that the French, being leftists & multiculturalists, aren't willing to "convert" Muslims.

Brook: I'm not a hypocrite

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At around 1:07, Brook says it's not hypocritcal for him to suppport open immigration for every country except Israel. They are at war, etc. But they aren't at war with Christian Ehtiopians.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/y...

He also claims that Hispanics vote Democratic because the Republicans are (allegedly) anti-immigration. In fact, Hispanics are left of center on most issues.

Water off a ducks back, Linz.

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Water off a ducks back, Linz. I fully understand your anger.

Christianity is better than Islam

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Shifting the focus to "Christianity is just as bad.... blah, blah" is the opposite of defending against Islam. It serves to intellectually disarm people and aid the advancing Jihadists.

Very important point. The "Christianity is just as bad" argument that is so popular with atheists in general and O'ists is particular is a *terrible* argument. I recall Binswanger making it by using quotes from the Old Testament and replacing the word "God" with the word "Allah". Oh how clever you are Binny!

Its a bad argument that should be dropped. The European people built the greatest civilization in history under the influence of Christianity. Christianity no matter how flawed served as the transmission belt for morality and virtue which no culture can survive without, as we are now witnessing. Islam is a vile religion even on religion's terms. It offers *nothing* of virtue and is totally irredeemable.

Richard has shown the kind of anti-Islam yet pro-liberty viewpoint that I wish was the standard for the O'ist movement. If the entire movement thought that Muslim immigration should end, Muslims should be out-migrated, the Mosques should be monitored or closed down, and the Left's alliance with Islam recognized as the evil that it is.. If that were what Objectivists were pushing in the media, they would make Conservatives look like pussies. And further, the movement would probably appeal more to the younger generation that is rejecting Leftism for the racial nationalism and Christian Traditionalism of the alt-right. Objectivism would show that it had balls which it currently does not posses.

Obamuslim Islamifies Americastan

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In my inbox today, writer unknown—Linz:

ALL Of A SUDDEN.........Seven Short Years Have Passed!

Before Obama there was virtually no outlandish presence of Islam in America.

All of a sudden, Islam is taught in schools. Christianity and the bible are banned in schools.

All of a sudden we must allow prayer rugs everywhere and allow for Islamic prayer in schools, airports and businesses.

All of a sudden we must stop serving pork in prisons.

All of a sudden we are inundated with law suits by Muslims who are offended by American culture.

All of a sudden we must allow burkas to be worn everywhere even though you have no idea who or what is covered up under
them.

All of a sudden Muslims are suing employers and refusing to do their jobs if they personally deem it conflicts with Sharia Law.

All of a sudden the Attorney General of the United States vows to prosecute anyone who engages in "anti-Muslim speech".

All of a sudden, Jihadists who engage in terrorism and openly admit they acted in the name of Islam and ISIS, are emphatically declared they are NOT Islamic by our leaders and/or their actions are determined NOT to be terrorism, but other nebulous terms like 'workplace violence."

All of a sudden, it becomes Policy that Secular Middle East dictators that were benign or friendly to the West, must be replaced by Islamists and the Muslim Brotherhood.

All of a sudden our troops are withdrawn from Iraq and the middle east, giving rise to ISIS.

All of a sudden, America has reduced its nuclear stockpiles to 1950 levels, as Obama's stated goal of a nuke-free America by the time he leaves office continues uninterrupted.

All of a sudden, a deal with Iran must be made at any cost, with a pathway to nuclear weapons and HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars handed over to fund their programs.

All of a sudden America APOLOGIZES to Muslim states and sponsors of terror worldwide for acts of aggression, war and sabotage THEY perpetrate against our soldiers.

All of a sudden, the American Navy is diminished to 1917 Pre-World War I levels of only 300 ships. The Army is at pre-1940 levels. The Air Force scraps 500 planes and planned to retire the use of the A-10 Thunderbolt close air support fighter. A further draw down of another 40,000 military personnel is in progress.

All of a sudden half of our aircraft carriers are recalled for maintenance by Obama rendering the Atlantic unguarded, NONE are in the Middle East.

All of a sudden Obama has to empty Guantanamo Bay of captured Jihadists and let them loose in Jihad-friendly Islamic states. He demands to close the facility.

All of a sudden America will negotiate with terrorists and trade FIVE Taliban commanders for a deserter and Jihad sympathizer.

All of a sudden there is no money for American poor, disabled veterans, jobless Americans, hungry Americans, or displaced Americans but there is endless money for Obama's "Syrian refugee" resettlement programs.

All of sudden there is an ammunition shortage in the USA.

All of a sudden, the most important thing for Obama to do after a mass shooting by two Jihadists, is disarm American Citizens.

All of a sudden, the President of the United States cannot attend the Christian Funerals of a Supreme Court Justice and a former First Lady because of previous (seemingly unimportant) commitments.

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All of a sudden, I âm sick to my stomach. I âm not sure the majority of Americans recognize the seriousness of the situation and how much progress has been made by Islam these last 7 years, a very brief time compared to a 78 year lifetime!

Richard

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Please forgive my ill-temper. I'm sure you can imagine the mood I was in, with Nice having just happened, the coup in Turkey failing ... and all that garbage coming from the mouth of Obamuslim.

I didn't defend Christianity

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I didn't defend Christianity as such, but called out a false claim against it. I'd do the same for Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, or the local Macrame club, or any individual who is being unjustly maligned. What got my goat mainly though is the relativism that is raised in the face of the Islamic menace. Shifting the focus to "Christianity is just as bad.... blah, blah" is the opposite of defending against Islam. It serves to intellectually disarm people and aid the advancing Jihadists.

Here's a post of mine from

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Here's a post of mine from 2007, Linz:

http://www.solopassion.com/nod...

Bosch Fawstin - Too Funny

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Bosch Fawstin ‏@BoschFawstin 12m12 minutes ago

French Interior Minister, in saying there's no link between Nice attack & "Radical Islam", he's saying there's no link between him & reality

++++++++++++++++

But saying it's unonnected with immigration shows a link with reality?

Are We Doomed?

Neil Parille's picture

It sure sounds like it (S. Mollyneux):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Learning To Live With Terrorism

Neil Parille's picture

____

The French Prime Minister has now come out and said the French will just have to "learn to live with terrorism." The squalid evil of such an injunction defies description.

Manuel Valls = Filth.

____

I hate to say it, but I think it's the truth. France is ten percent Muslim. I'm surprised more events like this don't happen. Short of "outmigrating" these people, I think the French ought to get used to it.

Bullshit

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It's not a holiday, it's permanent exile. The cost is worth it. All the better if Islamofilth rushes for the windfall.

And I don't already know your solution (I certainly agree with the one you just outlined). What I remember is your rush to defend Goblianity—vicious, primitive barbarism in its own right when politically dominant—against comparisons with Islamogoblinism.

All Goblinism is garbage. The Islamo version just happens to be, far and away, the most threatening right now. But nothing less than the triumph of reason will, ultimately, save us from any of it. To enable reason to triumph, we must find a way to secularise the sacred and make it stick. Aesthetics has a lot to do with this ... meaning we can't do it with headbanging caterwauling or fry-quacking. Professed opponents of Islamogoblinism and other such primitivism can't make a case while they support headbanging and are oblivious to fry-quacking.

Oh dear, full circle, and no one will get it.

It was just my sense of

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It was just my sense of humour, Linz. If you want to make a quick buck, what better than to revert and collect 50 grand or so for a holiday. But anyway, if you think back, I've been the one most on about Islam before anyone else here was. I've taken a lot of flack for it when I first started banging on about it. I know you have a lot on your plate, but you already know my solution. Kick the scum out. Stop Islamic immigration. Monitor the mosques and close down any mosque that has even a hint of jihad being taught. Bulldoze them even. Those few things among a host of other things that should be Islam unfriendly and defensive of Western Civilisation.

Weasel-word Wiig

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That would be a better reason to convert to Islam than Allah.

What is your point, exactly?

And what is your solution?

What a real American President sounds like

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Compare this to The Anti-American President, Obamuslim-Filth:

BTW, this is five years into Reagan's Alzheimer's, according to O'Lielly-Filth. The actual diagnosis of early stage Alzheimer's was made 8 years later, in 1994. Why am I the only one to get incensed by this??!!

You've always been right on maggots

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I agree as to their extermination. But kick them out first.

It's a no-brainer.

Does one want to live, or does one wish to die?

We've been saying this for years. Some of us.

Add these to the Phalanx of Filth

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The French Prime Minister has now come out and said the French will just have to "learn to live with terrorism." The squalid evil of such an injunction defies description.

Manuel Valls = Filth.

Fox News piously refrains from playing video of the gruesome carnage in Nice, while replaying over and over the recent footage of white cops shooting blacks, in circumstances that are not yet clear.

Whoever is responsible for that = Filth.

Bill O'Lielly gets a phone call on air from Crooked Hillary and licks her faeces-encrusted anus that can't even excrete straight.

Bill O'Leilly = Filth.

Turkish patriots loyal to the secularist vision of Ataturk try to mount a coup to overthrow the wannabe theocracy of Erdogan. Obamuslim issues a statement opposing the attempted coup and supporting Erdogan.

Erdogan = Filth.

Obamuslim = Filth. But we already knew that.

Totalifilth (Filth, mainly moronnial, for Totalitarianism) is all over Faecesbook and Twit-Witter, promoting appeasement of Islamofilth in the wake of Nice.

Totalifilth is just that: Totally Filth.

That would be a better reason

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That would be a better reason to convert to Islam than Allah.

Pay them to leave

Doug Bandler The Second's picture

We'll pay for it even though they should. Just get them out of here

I believe William Lind (Grant can correct me on this) has argued that the US government should pay Muslims to leave by offering anywhere from 50k-100k to go; getting the larger number if they leave sooner. The Muslim would then have to sign a document that they may never return. He estimates that even if we had to spend 500 billion or more it would be money well spent.

If Trump proposed that policy I can just imagine what ARIans and OrgOists would accuse him of.

Deport every Muslim

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That has to be every civilised person's default position. Let these adherents to the stinking, stupid, savage superstition that is Islam go to the Muslim country of their choice. We'll pay for it even though they should. Just get them out of here. Let them enjoy their Sharia among themselves.

Not One Muslim!

Death to Islam!

Lone Jihadis

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Neil -- Overthrowing the dictatorships in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc., and replacing them with liberal states, would almost certainly have a profound impact upon the world. Jihad and sharia would go into radical decline worldwide -- including "lone wolf" jihadi attacks like in Nice. Gov'ts are powerful world actors. They encourage, direct, and fund almost everyone, for good or ill.

If only we had "flattened" Iran and Saudi Arabia . . . .

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this wouldn't have happened. I mean, you need to have some Mullah directing you to come up with the idea of running people over with a truck.

Unknown People Doing Things for Unknown Reasons

Kyrel Zantonavitch's picture

American t'v' news reporters were hilarious on today's Nice, France Massacre story, as usual. They discussed it endlessly with not one mention of the word "Islam" or "Muslims". Who did this monstrosity and why? Every single viewer was probably thinking Muslims did this for the purpose of promoting Islam. But no-one said a single word about. Just some vague comments near the end of the reports that the French police thought it was probably an act of "terrorism" by "terrorists". I turned off my t'v' in disgust.

Newton

Grant Jones's picture

"Deport every Moslem who believes in shariah." Which is to say, deport every Moslem.

KASS Newt!

Lindsay Perigo's picture

Finally, tonight on Hannity, after the events in Nice, Gingrich let rip. Deport all believers in Shariah from the US. Don't let any believers in Sharia in. Declare war. Monitor the mosques and close them when in doubt. Islamofilth websites should be a felony, as should visiting them. It's war, and should be treated like one. Obamislam will say the problem is too many trucks. Etc., etc. KASS!!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/503...

Death to Islam!

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