Mongrel Mob doco with Ross Kemp - Filmed under the condition it was not to be aired in NZ

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Submitted by Sandi on Sat, 2008-05-03 23:55.

"Depravity and inhuman violence" And guess whose fault it is?

"The Mongrel Mob episode will not be aired in New Zealand something which has been widely debated. TV1 is screening the third series of Ross Kemp on Gangs but says it could not buy the episode because it was never cleared for international distribution.

However, it is understood that before Mob members would agree to be filmed, they signed a contract with the British producers preventing the show screening here

The contract would have been signed because Mob members did not know how they would be portrayed and they would have wanted to protect themselves against bad publicity. Canterbury University associate professor of sociology Greg Newbold was involved in the documentary's research and production and he understood there was such an agreement.

The programme, which has appeared on UK television and is available on the internet, has sparked debate around the anti-social consequences of Maori identifying with a "warrior" culture. Culture sponsored by whom

Newbold told the Sunday Star-Times the Mob glorified "some of the worst aspects of traditional Maori and the warrior culture".

"They do have this concept of aggressiveness, fearsomeness, and bravery and belligerence which are general features of Maori culture."

Mongrel Mob members identified strongly with their warrior ancestors who in prehistoric times "were not bound by the rules of warfare... slaughtered prisoners at will... raped women... many were taken as slaves and those who were not, were killed and eaten", Newbold said.

He compared Maori war-time tactics to those of the crusaders in the 11th century.

"They were not specific to Maori, but it was certainly there and was very, very brutal. And the Mongrel Mob, I think they glorify that aspect of their culture as much as they know about it."

Maori Party co-leader Pita Sharples agreed that gang members tended to grasp on to violent aspects of their culture, but this was common in marginalised groups around the world.

Gang members also tended to have a limited understanding of the culture and their Maori heritage, he said.

Any suggestions anti-social or criminal behaviour was somehow inherent in Maori were "rubbish", he said.

He had been working to educate gang members about their culture and about "core values" that would help all Maori care for those around them and prioritise family.

Newbold said "the brown middle-class who are tending to revive Maori culture and to some extent rewrite Maori prehistory" would find the links offensive, but they were based on well-researched fact.

Other social issues among Maori such as prevalent domestic abuse, alcoholism and violence had historical cultural roots, he said.

"Almost every time you hear about a child that's been beaten to death they are Maori that's not new. It's a bloody sad truth. They can keep arguing the point but it's not going to change until people acknowledge it. Everyone who's involved in this kind of work knows it... But very few people are prepared to say it because you are called a racist."

Sharples said: "Greg Newbold is talking rubbish. In pre-European times Maori did not whack their babies and there was no alcohol.

What I've looked at is the impact of colonisation on Maori and the bringing in of fatty foods and flour and all these kinds of things into a group that did not fit in the mainstream.

"It's natural that the group should be over-represented in negative and low socio-economic statistics."

Statistics New Zealand figures show Maori accounted for more than 43% of apprehensions for violent offences in 2006, while comprising less than 14% of the population."

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AS we are coming into Winter, I'd love it if Sharples decided to canoe accross to Kapiti Island for a month. He'd be wearing a traditional grass skirt and no shoes. Naturally he would eat off the fat of the land and carry no rations. (Flour and alcohol be European poison). Obviously he would be devoid of medicinal and pharmaceutical pills, potions and sandfly repellant. (European toxins). He shall instead ruminate on local 'erbs and not the introduced variety.

Video's are here. Kudos to Google.

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Watched it here

gregster's picture

Your right Richard

Ben Morgan's picture

I got caried away there for a minute. It would have been nice if TVNZ had refused to purchase the rest of the series unless they could show the whole thing. I was just struck by the contrast between how the crimanals in question are able to say one thing to the world (on the series in question) and another to the New Zealand public via the state owned broadcaster (close up ect). That was more what I was getting at though my words were poor.


Respect intellectual property rights

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They should air it anyway

No, they shouldn't. TVNZ must not screen the episode because the British producers of the documentary haven't granted permission for them to do so.


email I sent to ron marks

Ben Morgan's picture

Dear Ron Marks


I address this letter to you not because I agree with all of your positions on this matter but because I know that you unlike most MP's have a spine and say it how you see it. Overtime I have become increasingly annoyed at the media including TVNZ portraying the mongrel mob as some what harmless as some what "reformed" when they are clearly nothing of the sort. I believe that TVNZ owe the people of New Zealand better.

This view was confirmed after finding out that TVNZ currently showing the international TV series "Ross Kemp on gangs" (a doco series where each episode focuses on gang activity in one area of the world) is not going to play the episode about gang activity in New Zealand. Upon learning this I watched the episode over the internet and sure enough here were the same group of people (mongrel mob members) who regularly appear on TVNZ etc talking about how misunderstood they are, bragging to the world about how savage and unrepentent they are about the urban terror they have inflicted on New Zealand. It was truly shocking.I find it discusting that they wish to portray themselves one way to the world and one way to the people of New Zealand and that TVNZ buys into it.

Aside from the damage this documentry will undoubtably do to New Zealand's reputation abroad I feel the that New Zealanders deserve to know the truth about this foul group of pathetic savages. Of all the countries of the world New Zealand is the one where this doco should be shown, and yet New Zealand is the one country its not getting shown in.

Could you please do what you can to find out and rectify why this isn't being shown on TVNZ and ask why the state run broadcasting network continues to insist on portraying gangs as anything more than the pathetic criminals they are.

Your with deep concern

 

Benjamin James Morgan

PS
I am currently a payed up member of libertarianz political party I tell you this only to appear honest though I consider this issue an "A" political one.
 


They should air it anyway

Ben Morgan's picture

New Zealand needs to see this episod more than any other country. If I was a foriener this episod would make me think twice about coming to New Zealand. I'm going to email ron marks about getting this put on tvnz after all it is "our" station I would like others to do the same.


It's a shame

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It's a shame they can't air it in NZ. I've been enjoying the series.

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