Reprise: Will It Finally Sink In This Time?

Lindsay Perigo's picture
Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Thu, 2008-05-08 02:11.

[Reprised in light of the loss of over 100,000 lives in Myanmar]

"There may be a God who will make us happy in another world. If he does, it will be more than he has accomplished in this. A being who has the power to prevent it and yet allows thousands and millions of his children to starve, who devours them with earthquakes, who allows whole nations to be enslaved, cannot—in my judgement—be implicitly depended upon to do justice in another world."

– Robert Green Ingersoll

It’s curious and not a little vexing that as man the young adult relishes and extends his mastery over himself and his universe, he steadfastly refuses to put aside childish things, such as supernatural beings made in his own childlike image. Of the six-and-a-bit billion people in the world, the vast majority still believe in a deity, and many of the remainder believe in (or are forced to profess a belief in) a secular substitute such as Kim Jong-Il. The number of conscientious atheists—those who have put aside childish things and can explain why they have done so—remains dispiritingly low.

Occasionally something happens in the world, something cataclysmic and unspeakably terrible, to cause this relic of more superstitious times to take a hit. Even the dimmest intellect steeped in the most primitive hocus-pocus is given cause for pause—how can my god have let this happen? The Boxing Day tsunami that devastated much of Asia, with a death toll of 150,000-and-rising, is a case in point. A recent News Sentinel editorial by Bill Tammeus canvasses the rationalisations of contemporary witch-doctors in the face of this embarrassing, calamitous carnage ("Why Does God Allow This? Tsunami Has Theologians and Scholars Pondering Nature of Evil").

The witch-doctors rehash the standard theological spin:

1) The evil of the event triggers a redemptive outbreak of good (the relief effort, the tidal wave of charitable donations, the suspension of civil war in Aceh, etc.);

2) This horror is part of a bigger picture that God has yet to reveal to us, wherein we’ll all, eventually, live happily ever after. We shouldn’t bitch about some minor inconvenience along the way;

3) These things are sent to try us. They are a test of our faith, and character-building. Suffering is good for us;

4) We shouldn’t even ask the question. God moves in mysterious ways—end of story. Ours not to reason why;

5) The Devil is winning and he just scored another home run (I made that one up, but I don’t understand why it doesn’t enjoy serious currency—the evidence for it is far more compelling than for any of the above);

6) Man is being punished for his sins. This one, astonishingly, still does enjoy serious currency among the lumpen superstition-touters. To digress for a moment, in the recent debate in New Zealand on whether to accord legal recognition to "civil unions" between same-sex couples, religious opponents of the legislation predicted that if it were passed, God would have all the volcanoes in the country blow their tops. (It was, and He didn’t.) In Tammeus’ article on the tsunami, one reputable Christian theologian is quoted as saying that because Adam sinned, "the laws of nature have been corrupted and don't all operate now the way God originally intended them to. Now that doesn't mean there's a demon behind every tsunami or hurricane, but it means that if it wasn't for the angelic and human rebellion, we wouldn't have tsunamis or hurricanes or AIDS or anything of the sort."

Saints preserve us!

It’s noteworthy that after all these centuries, God’s pre-eminent apologists still fall into the same old trap: God, being all-knowing, must have foreseen that Adam would sin, yet proceeded to create him nonetheless; therefore, he is ultimately responsible for Adam’s action and has no business punishing him, let alone the rest of us, for that action. The only way for God not to be responsible is for him not to be all-knowing, and then he's not God.

It’s noteworthy, too, that these apologists demand of us an unconscionable suspension of disbelief. If God were a politician running for re-election to the Highest Office, and put forward any of the above excuses for his appalling record of grief-making, he would be laughed out of court. Unfortunately, Immanuel Kant has been granted the sanctity of his noumenal realm, ring-fenced off from common sense, so that when it comes to rationalising that realm, any old very old crap will do.

"God works in mysterious ways" is really a euphemism for "God works in indefensible ways." And that is a pointer to the bottom-line reality: there’s no such entity working in any such way; God simply ain’t there.

Among the early Indian casualties of the tsunami were a group of Hindus holding a prayer meeting in "holy waters." Well, they won’t be doing that again in a hurry. Perhaps now the reality will sink in, to Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims and Christians alike (and to all other touters of gods, ghosts and goblins), that the aggressive conquest of impersonal, indifferent nature—not abject, docile prayer—is man’s proper estate.

Now more than ever, it’s time to put aside childish things.


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Yeah, consistently inconsistent, Disin

Jameson's picture

What freakin' principle are you employing here, mate? First it's "We shouldn't meddle!" then it's "Why aren't we meddling?!" You can't have it both ways.

Taking out Saddam was as much an act of humanitarianism as it was self-interest, but you damn that invasion as 'bad'... Vietnam: 'bad'... North Korea: 'bad'... and those weren't natural disasters: they were entirely totalitarian-made -- far more malevolent than a bloody cyclone.

If you're at all confused as to why America doesn't just charge on in to Myanmar you need to take a look at your own rhetoric. Is it any wonder the U.S. is hesitant about taking such invasive action when dicks like you are almost guaranteed to bitch about them interfering with yet another sovereign government?

Do we hear you slamming the Myanmar junta for their inaction? Nooooo... it's the long-suffering Americans that earn your criticism!!

You're a weasel-whinging wanker, Disin!! You should be ashamed to call yourself an American!!


As for making enemies

personallydisinterested's picture

It's hard to do when your greatest offence is dropping lifesaving supplies out of airplanes. 

My position is consistent.


Damned if it does and if it doesn't

personallydisinterested's picture

Yes, it's not based on the reality that the US is an imperial power.  Do some research.  BTW I'm not lazy if you don't do the research, you are.

I'm confused as to why the US will invade countries, but won't drop food and water out of airplanes against the will of a "sovereign" government.  Could you explain how this is not hypocritical or at least inconsistent?

 


Sad-damned indeed, Lindsay

Jameson's picture

It's because of Saddamites like Disin - Americans who perpetuate the myth of American Imperialism - that half the world remains suspicious of America.


Ha! Well spotted, Glenn!

Lindsay Perigo's picture

Anything the U.S. does is wrong. Damned if it does and damned if it doesn't. The voice of Saddamy.


Potpourri politics

Jameson's picture

Disin today: "Obviously (the U.S.) shouldn't respect their sovereignty."

Disin on April 6th: "My position: The US has made enemies by meddling in other countries. The US should not meddle in other countries."


Jameson

personallydisinterested's picture

So what?  Obviously we shouldn't respect their sovereignty.  What are they going to do if we fly over their territory and bomb them with food and water?  Shoot down our planes?  I doubt they would be quite that stupid.  But you never know, they could try to "defend" their air space, which would be a pathetic exercise at best. 

This is the basic problem with the lack of rational thought in this world.  The same people that think it's ok to use my money to feed people against my will, think it's ok to allow a government to force people to die rather than permit charity.  It is completely irrational and inconsistent.  Oh well. 


The problem is, Disin

Jameson's picture

like you, the Burmese think the Americans are obsessed with invading countries.


What's the problem?

personallydisinterested's picture

If the government of Burma doesn't want supplies from the US, which they would just steal and sell to people that can afford to pay, why don't we just drop the stuff out of the air and give folks a chance at hiding some before the army shows up?  Are we failing to do so because we are scared of them, we respect their sovereignty, or we want to enjoy this opportunity to bitch with indignity?


In the meantime...

Jameson's picture

The U.S. Navy is sitting off the coast laden with humanitarian supplies and personnel, having just completed drills in humanitarian relief around Thailand before the hurricane hit. But the Junta won't have a bar of it, preferring to let their people die than accept help from big bad Bush.

God help them.


Crass!

Marcus's picture

Another type of religion on the block competing with all the other backward superstitions! However, its follower's beliefs are strengthened by natural disasters! After natural disaster, I'll wager that they feel a positive glow!
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Al Gore Calls Myanmar Cyclone a 'Consequence' of Global Warming

Former vice president tells NPR's 'Fresh Air' cyclone is example of 'consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming.'

By Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
5/6/2008 4:04:54 PM

Using tragedy to advance an agenda has been a strategy for many global warming activists, and it was just a matter of time before someone found a way to tie the recent Myanmar cyclone to global warming.

Former Vice President Al Gore in an interview on NPR’s May 6 “Fresh Air” broadcast did just that. He was interviewed by “Fresh Air” host Terry Gross about the release of his book, “The Assault on Reason,” in paperback.

“And as we’re talking today, Terry, the death count in Myanmar from the cyclone that hit there yesterday has been rising from 15,000 to way on up there to much higher numbers now being speculated,” Gore said. “And last year a catastrophic storm from last fall hit Bangladesh. The year before, the strongest cyclone in more than 50 years hit China – and we’re seeing consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming.”

Gore claimed global warming is forcing ocean temperatures to rise, which is causing storms, including cyclones and hurricanes, to intensify.

“It’s also important to note that the emerging consensus among the climate scientists is although any individual storm can’t be linked singularly to global warming – we’ve always had hurricanes,” Gore said. “Nevertheless, the trend toward more Category 5 storms – the larger ones and trend toward stronger and more destructive storms appears to be linked to global warming and specifically to the impact of global warming on higher ocean temperatures in the top couple of hundred feet of the ocean, which drives convection energy and moisture into these storms and makes them more powerful.”

In October 2007, CNN Meteorologist Rob Marciano disputed Gore’s claim that there is a strong correlation between intense storms and global warming. He explained that “global warming does not conclusively cause stronger hurricanes like we've seen,” pointing out that “by the end of this century we might get about a 5-percent increase.”

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080506160205.aspx


KASS

Sandi's picture

Oh sweet KASS.

Bravo Linz!


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