'Death was the least that she deserved'

Jameson's picture
Submitted by Jameson on Tue, 2008-05-13 11:42

17-year old Shiite girl named Rand has a crush on a British soldier called Paul; father stomps on her, suffocates her, stabs her until she's dead. Police congratulate him. Father says, "They are men and know what honour is." Rand's body is thrown into a makeshift grave where her uncles spit on her. Father says girls should respect their religion, their family and their bodies; says he knows God is blessing him for what he did. Local politician gives him money to lay low in Jordan "until the story has been forgotten." Father says Rand's bad genes were passed on by her mother, who's in hiding after divorcing him because of the killing. Mother says, "She was killed by animals. Every night when I go to bed I remember the face of Rand calling for help while her father and brothers ended her life." Father says, "My sons are by my side, and they were men enough to help me finish the life of someone who just brought shame to ours." Sons say their mother should come home and live like a blessed Muslim woman. Mother called Rand her 'Rose'... "That was my nickname for her," she says, "because when she was born she was so beautiful. Now, my lovely Rose is in her grave. But, God will make her father pay, either in this world ... or in the world after."

Rand died a virgin.

Full, fucked-up story here.


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Pamela Geller - Chairwoman

Sandi's picture

One of the many honour killings in Germany

Sandi's picture

A 23-year-old Hamburg man suspected of stabbing his sister to death in an honour killing last week had already been prosecuted for assaulting her and others.

Police were also investigating earlier claims that he assaulted two of his sisters, including the girl stabbed last week.

Police arrested the man on Friday after the stabbing death of his 16-year-old sister early Friday morning in Hamburg's Sankt Georg district. Neighbours and a passing group of youths heard the girl screaming near the Berliner Tor metro stop and called police at 11:21 pm on Thursday. The girl died about an hour later at the scene of the stabbing.

The girl's oldest brother - like her a German citizen of Afghan origin - admitted to police he had killed her because she had turned away from her family

A series of six honour killings in Berlin - including the shooting at a bus stop of 23-year-old Turkish woman Hatun Sürücü - shook Germany in 2005. Sürücü's youngest brother, Ayhan Sürücü, later confessed to killing her because he did not approve of her Western lifestyle.

Perhaps if you take your ass out of your head

Jameson's picture

Approximately 50,000 innocent French were killed by the allies during the Normandy invasion. Killed ~ not murdered. Such is the tragedy of war, for which soldiers ~ past and present ~ who go to war in defence of liberty should accept no guilt.

You look like an old man, Riggenbach, but your perspective is of a very callow fellow...

"Hired Killers"

Callum McPetrie's picture

Yes, but why was he hired to kill? Why was any soldier recruited during WWII recruited to kill? And how can you say that Paul is recruited to kill people?

His main duty, as with most soldiers in Iraq today, is to keep the peace (or try to keep the peace) wherever they're stationed. Most individual ground soldiers use violence only if there has been violence against them, or will be violence against them in the form of a threat. They have the capacity to use violence -not for solely using violence. Learn the difference.

And the soldiers who go around needlessly killing innocents for no reason do get sent home, as they should. What differentiates a man like Paul, doing his job as he should, or a soldier like that? Nothing, according to you - after all, they're both "hired killers"!
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"I have done so, long since. If only some others around here would follow my lead and do the same, they might discover that killing civilians in Iraq who had nothing whatever to do with any attack that might have been launched upon them is not "defense."

Who did that?

"Was Paul hired to murder people for the hell of it?"

Who said he was?

According to you, he is a "hired killer". No differentiation between soldiers in armies who try to annihilate another country, and those who defend it. Both are "hired killers!"

". . . to murder people just for the hell of it?"

Your reading comprehension is pretty poor, isn't it? If I were you, I'd work on that.

Your argument, please. Not just some stupid accusations with no evidence to back it up -which is a sign of weakness.

"Socialism may be dead, but its corpse is still rotting up the place." -Ayn Rand

Unanswered Question Now Answered

jriggenbach's picture

"But if we, for the sake of argument, accept your shallow definition that he is nothing more than 'hired killer', are you suggesting that this justifies Rand's murder?"

Certainly not. Unlike most of the people who post regularly here, I don't try to justify anyone's murder.

JR

Incoherence and Confusion

jriggenbach's picture

"Please learn the difference between defense and offence . . ."

I have done so, long since. If only some others around here would follow my lead and do the same, they might discover that killing civilians in Iraq who had nothing whatever to do with any attack that might have been launched upon them is not "defense."

"Was Paul hired to murder people for the hell of it?"

Who said he was?

"Were the soldiers fighting against Germany and Japan in WWII 'hired killers'. . ."

Of course.

". . . to murder people just for the hell of it?"

Your reading comprehension is pretty poor, isn't it? If I were you, I'd work on that.

JR

Perhaps If You Take Your Head Out of Your Ass . . .

jriggenbach's picture

. . . you'll grasp that a soldier is a hired killer paid to kill people on behalf of others - those who hire him. Perhaps you'll also grasp that killing entirely innocent people who had nothing whatever to do with any attack that may have been launched upon you is not "defense." It is murder.

But then, again, perhaps you won't grasp these things. Perhaps, like most people who post frequently on this list, you're hopeless.

JR

nothing new but no less

Jon Coster's picture

nothing new but no less fucking disgusting - scum

Moral Equivalency

Callum McPetrie's picture

"17-year old Shiite girl named Rand has a crush on a hired killer from England called Paul; father stomps on her, suffocates her, stabs her until she's dead. Police congratulate him."

So were the men who fought on the front lines against Germany, Japan in WWII.

Please learn the difference between defense and offence, between sensibility during war and outright murder. Was Paul hired to murder people for the hell of it? Were the soldiers fighting against Germany and Japan in WWII "hired killers" to murder people just for the hell of it?

Or was Hitler and his slaughter an alternative, which would have continued indefinitely even if the Allies didn't get involved?

"Socialism may be dead, but its corpse is still rotting up the place." -Ayn Rand

The soldier called Paul

Jameson's picture

is an armed defender of the free world.

But if we, for the sake of argument, accept your shallow definition that he is nothing more than 'hired killer', are you suggesting that this justifies Rand's murder?

Common Sense, Please

jriggenbach's picture

Just what is it that you imagine a "soldier" is, Jameson?

JR

Evidence please

Jameson's picture

"... a hired killer from England called Paul..."

Care to substantiate this outrageous accusation, Riggenbach?

A Bit of Helpful Translation - Don't Let it Interrupt Your Day

jriggenbach's picture

"17-year old Shiite girl named Rand has a crush on a British soldier called Paul; father stomps on her, suffocates her, stabs her until she's dead. Police congratulate him."

Translation into plain English:

"17-year old Shiite girl named Rand has a crush on a hired killer from England called Paul; father stomps on her, suffocates her, stabs her until she's dead. Police congratulate him."

JR

Hey Scott,

Olivia's picture

I don't think rational bars exist in this country.... but at least my daughters can fall in love with whomever they wish without being murdered.

Spot on, kaiwai!

atlascott's picture

So, so true.

Scott DeSalvo

Whether you think you can, or think you cannot, you're probably right!!

Well said, Olivia!

atlascott's picture

We could have found a different, more rational, bar. Wouldn't have had to throw us out.

These kinds of stories expose the Muslim world as populated by evil bastards and those who empower evil bastard--the 'moderate' Muslims.

Scott DeSalvo

Whether you think you can, or think you cannot, you're probably right!!

You'll

kaiwai's picture

You'll never hear the outrage from the so-called 'moderate Muslims' because they simply don't exist. The moderate Muslim is like the peaceful NAZI, the the tolerant KKK member and the obese super model - they don't exist. They're a creation of the media to suit their politically correct agenda. They would rather sweeten things up than plonk the cold hard facts on the table and tell the public "deal with this mess".

And the greater tragedy is

Callum McPetrie's picture

And the greater tragedy is that this story will go completely ignored in the West. Surely, it will get time in the media, but will always be handed over to talk on "Islamophobia" and "cultural diversity"-and no one will dare mention how these things continue to happen, on a regular basis, in these backwards, mystic nations and cultures. Anti-americanism, anti-capitalism and anti-industrialism is more important.

"Socialism may be dead, but its corpse is still rotting up the place." -Ayn Rand

Are these men "mis-interpreting Islam?

Sandi's picture

Obviously not.

Where are the outraged voices from the moderates screaming that these men are wrong?

More honour killings and still no condemnation.

"... says he knows God is blessing him for what he did..."

Jameson's picture

Then He is a truly malevolent God.

How disgusting!

Olivia's picture

Filthy evil pigs!!

What a beautiful girl.

I nearly got kicked out of a bar recently because I got into an argument with a very silly Kiwi woman who asserted that muslim women have more power and control in their homes that we Westerners. She was impossible to argue with as she knew it all because "she'd been there" (which meant Kashmir, India).

The bar owner told me off for verbally "bashing her up."
I hadn't even begun to get going. Personally, I think Western women deserve beatings for saying such stupid things while young girls like this lovely Rand are being murdered so brutally by animals parading as men!

Horrifically, this is a

Bosch Fawstin's picture

Horrifically, this is a relatively common story coming out of the hell that is the Muslim world, where women are considered a necessary evil, as there's no other way to give birth to male Muslims. This scum's exoneration is institutionalized. Rand, what a name, looked like an absolute sweetheart.

http://fawstin.blogspot.com/

Yes this is Iraq

Scott Wilson's picture

The profound negligence of the liberation of Iraq to establish freedom.

It is the bankruptcy of the strategy beyond overthrowing Saddam - the idea that democracy IN AND OF ITSELF is enough. However, the effort to change a fundamentally sexist and violent culture is not small.

Second-hand religion

Jameson's picture

This is a religion which encourages its followers to put more stock in the opinions of neighbours than the lives of their own daughters. There were 47 honour killings in Basra last year. Rand was the 30th this year. While the Muslim world continues to turn blind eyes to these acts of barbarism they have no honour at all.

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