If at first you don't succeed...

Elijah's picture
Submitted by Elijah on Fri, 2008-05-23 21:21

A shocking proposal is on the http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10512239  front page of the New Zealand Herald this morning.

Sir Geoffrey Palmer and the invisible MP for Napier, Russell Fairbrother, are suggesting the law is changed to abolish the right to silence.

This is in response to the State having failed in its trumped up charges against Chris Kahui whilst ignoring some fairly obvious other suspects.

Mr Fairbrother makes the bizarre claim "..New Zealand today is different to Old English society which developed the law to protect powerless suspects against the ovewelming power of the State.."

Ummmmm...Puzzled correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't beating confessions and jailing people for not answering questions the "overwelming power of the state", and the victim "powerless"?!?! Shocked ..Mr Fairbrother has said something which is entirely the opposite of the truth!

This proposal is evil and if it ever became law I really would leave New Zealand permanently.


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Geoffrey Palmer's Retarded Thoughts

Sandi's picture

do not compare with "Reason" as spoken by Mitch

"In my opinion, if a murderer can't be identified, they should both be convicted on a charge of "failing in their duty of care to their children" or something similar/more serious. The lack of care and responsibility taken by these parents is fucking disgraceful, and they should both be held accountable.

However, I do disagree with this statement "Sterilisation to prevent other poor children being subjected to this horrible treatment is a valid option in this case." because as a vehement supporter of the rights to abort, I can not sanction force on an individual's right to decide what to do with their body. Needless to say I would support an individual's choice to decide, as a bargaining option in judicial process. Much the same as giving long term prisoners the option of participating in medical trials in return for extra privileges.

Elijah, I couldn't agree

Kasper's picture

Elijah, I couldn't agree with you more on this. I remember when the Kahui case first came out they spent a week on the radio talking about reversing the 'Right to remain silent' law. I was reading Atlas Shrugged for the first time whilst I was meant to have been studying. Smiling It's amazing how when you read AS the society in the book comes alive in the world we live in.
I frantically rang radiolive at the time to oppose changing the bill of rights act at societal whim based on one case.
Giving up the 'right to remain silent' means securing a method in which the state can coerce people into giving information out of fear for their lives. It is unacceptable and unnecessary. The Kahui twins silence fasad was an obstruction of Justice and should be argued as such. The idea of altering the closest thing we have to a constitution (even though its basic) at whim because of 1 case, again is unacceptable and should be repudiated.

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