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Some technical chewing: On definitions and necessitySubmitted by Chris Cathcart on Wed, 2008-05-28 02:57.
For anyone that would like to raise some questions or challenges to help in the chewing process, I've started a thread on the newsgroup humanities.philosophy.objectivism that addresses some problems that have come up there in a discussion I've been having with a Kant enthusiast. My aim is to come to grips with a first-hand understanding of how Objectivism treats the issue of necessity vs. how Hume and Kant treat it, so I believe it covers the same sort of ground covered in Peikoff's "Analytic-Synthetic Dichotomy" essay, just from my own context and best understanding. Below I repost what I put in the first posting of that thread (linked above), with a minor revision in brackets. The post: [...] I put a "A definition is a statement that identifies the nature of the units and then, later: "The purpose of a definition is to distinguish a concept from all Now, keep in mind that Rand also said that "essence" is "A definition must identify the *nature* of the units, i.e., the How does all this make sense, if for Rand, the *nature* of a thing Because while the definition captures what is true of necessity for IOW, the function of a definition is to identify the *nature* of the Now, true enough, the *nature* of one apple is such that it is red, The definition only states what by necessity *distinguishes* the In the case of ice: the capacity for floating on liquid water does not So it is not the case, per Kant, that by adding "capable of floating In sum: there are things necessarily true with regard to a concept and
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Concept and Definition
I understand that definition is done by essential characteristic, but concept itself includes all characteristics. For example Man is featherless biped which is his natural characteristic but if you define Man as such you wouldn't be able to distinguish him from plucked chicken. However Man's essential characteristic is that he is rational animal and that what distinguish him from all other living things. The same thing applies to definition of ice as floating on liquid-this is definition by non-essential characteristic. Essential definition of ice is frozen water-that what distinguish it from all other floating objects. However, concept of ice itself includes all non-essential characteristics-floating, cold, white etc.. In short, it is necessary to distinguish between definition of concept (essential characteristics) and concept itself (all characteristics)
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Why don't you ask your Kant enthusiast to come over here. Fred Seddon needs some support.
I agree with you on the other thread about Peikoff's ASD article being a 7/7. 15/10 I would say. The best dichotomy-busting article ever. Though I have seen it claimed he got it all from Quine, of all people.
Some more from a related thread
This one is from another thread, discussing the proposition (said by the resident Kant enthusiast to be "synthetic") that "a body has weight."
In short, I address the question whether a concept defines, or serves only as a kind of "place-holder." My answer is that the distinguishing characteristic of a concept is to define, but that this is not the only characteristic. The nature of a concept is such that it can subsume vast amounts of information pertaining to the units it subsumes.