SOLO-International Press Release: Deja Vu as Vladolf Putler Runs Rings Around Dithering Dubya

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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Tue, 2008-08-12 09:26

SOLO-International Press Release: Deja Vu as Vladolf Putler Runs Rings Around Dithering Dubya

August 12, 2008

Vladimir Putin's invasion of Georgia is reminiscent of nothing so much as Hitler's pre-invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1938, says SOLO Principal Lindsay Perigo.

"Then, Hitler annexed the Sudetenland under the pretext of defending ethic Germans, as a prelude to gobbling up Czechoslovakia. Now, Putin seeks to annex South Ossetia and Abkhazia under the pretext of defending ethnic Russians as a prelude to (re)gobbling up Georgia, cradle of another of Putin's spiritual mentors, Joseph Stalin.

"Then, the world's foremost free nations tut-tutted about the Sudetenland but handed it to Hitler on a platter anyway. Now, the leader of the Free World wags his finger catatonically in Beijing — and Vladolf, having already made his getaway, thumbs his nose.

"Putler is clearly the one calling the shots in Russia, notwithstanding his recent 'demotion' to Prime Minister from President. Ostensible President Medvedev, who's just ordered a cosmetic halt to Russian actions, is merely a puppet. Putler cannot abide the fact that Georgia ever became independent in the first place. He can't stand its commitment to western values, its intention to join NATO, the fact that, as its President Saakashvili says, 'No country of the former Soviet Union has made more progress toward consolidating democracy, eradicating corruption and building an independent foreign policy than Georgia. This is precisely what Russia seeks to crush.' Putler, Saakashvili notes, is out to restore 'a neocolonial form of control over the entire space once governed by Moscow.'

"Make no mistake, what is happening now is an invasion of Georgia with a view to reclaiming it into Vladolf's burgeoning Russian Reich. What is needed in response is not Security Council rebukes (which Russia would veto), or G8 summits (which Russia would boycott) or gormless finger-wagging, but a clear signal to Putin that if he doesn't pull his head in immediately it'll get cut off," Perigo concludes.

Lindsay Perigo +64 21 255 8715, editor@freeradical.co.nz

SOLO SOLOPassion.com


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Greg-stir, Wiig did

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He said "protesters in the street..."

= Mindy

I'm curious,

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Why do I seem to be somebody else?

Mindy

C'mon Mindy

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Lets drop the BS.. Scan your ID and post it and lets be done with it.

I'm not taking you up on your bet, but let's see if you are who you say you are then?

C'mon...for Galts sake...plse save us all from the terrible suspense.

Hilton

I admit that reason is a small and feeble flame, a flickering torch by stumblers carried in the starless night, -- blown and flared by passion's storm, -- and yet, it is the only light. Extinguish that, and nought remains.- - Robert Green Ingersoll

I bet you $5,000 I'm who I say I am

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Put up or shut up!

--Mindy

If you're Mindy I'm Mork

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I'll bet you all 10 to 1 against that Mindy is in fact Ms Phyllis in disguise. The bogoflux emanating from this chiseller runs in the mega lenats.

Yes Mindy...I've painted a sign but since this is a family show I'm not going to tell you what it says. 

I admit that reason is a small and feeble flame, a flickering torch by stumblers carried in the starless night, -- blown and flared by passion's storm, -- and yet, it is the only light. Extinguish that, and nought remains.- - Robert Green Ingersoll

Mind y

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Hilton asked; "where are all the anti-Iraq-war-Bush-hating hippies now?...and could any of them still claim with a straight face that they were fueled by concern for the innocent in Iraq rather than hatred for the West?"

You disingenuously twisted those words, or is this a recurrent schizophrenic comprehension fault of yours?

Who said anything about marching?

The "Bush-hating hippies" who were anti-Iraq ostensibly pretend to being concerned with the innocent war victims.

How about you do some homework and find us some lefties who are complaining about Putin's killings?

Protest?

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You expect U.S. anti-war protestors to march even though the U.S. isn't involved??? Have you painted a sign yet?

--Mindy

Photos from the Georgian front

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 Some snaps of the war by a proud Russian soldier...and as Richard remarked...where are all the anti-Iraq-war-Bush-hating hippies now?...and could any of them still claim with a straight face that they were fueled by concern for the innocent in Iraq rather than hatred for the West?

I admit that reason is a small and feeble flame, a flickering torch by stumblers carried in the starless night, -- blown and flared by passion's storm, -- and yet, it is the only light. Extinguish that, and nought remains.- - Robert Green Ingersoll

Yes Richard - cold calculating and a "Gold" for perfect timing

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as Beijing enraptures the world with the splendour of its communist tinsel. Perfect recipe for dropping a reeking pile of strafe!

"Who is John Galt?"

(while the world sits back

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(while the world sits back and watches the telly

Yes. America attacks Iraq and within days there's hundreds of thousands protesting in the streets. Russia attacks Georgia and there's hardly a squeak.

... and Rice pleads with

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... and Rice pleads with Putin to pull it out.

 

I hope she's not consorting with the enemy to this extent.

But good points well made Sandi, especially re those death rates. The West hasn't got many friends left, and should be trying to foster and protect new ones such as this.

Friday, 9 March 2007

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"Georgia has announced that it will more than double the number of troops it has serving with the US-led forces in Iraq from 850 to 2,000.

Georgia is a small former Soviet republic with a strongly pro-western government with ambitions to join Nato."

Meanwhile it has been reported that around 2,000 people have been killed in Georgia (while the world sits back and watches the telly and Rice pleads with Putin to pull it out).

That's half the entire death toll of US soldiers during the entire time spent in Iraq!

"Who is John Galt?"

'Can you elaborate about your point?'

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Lance,

You said Obama's far-left socialism was open and obvious and yet his "useful idiots" in the media have tried to deny it.

Damn. That's two posts in a

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Damn. That's two posts in a row I agree with Mindy.

Makes my skin crawl...

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...to hear freedom spoken of as a "burden."

The Kremlin gave official

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The Kremlin gave official orders to stop the attacks but left enough gray area in their statement to allow field commanders to act. This is unsubtantiated but i'm sure that behind the scenes the army has been directed to cause chaos and disorder in Georgia for as long as possible.

Weakening the president while appearing like hostilities have stopped. I don't beleive the Russian central government is so weak that it can't define and control its armed forces. The longer the country is occupied and in chaos the worse the west will appear and the worse the pro-western govt will be received.

The west is powerless unless it wants to free Georgia and start a full scale war with Russia...It's not going to happen and we would never be in a position to make it happen. If we had more troops sitting in Georgia or if Georgia had become a NATO member this would have been averted. Russia took advantage of present circumstances to have an extremely favorable outcome.

If they can kill a high profile individual in the UK with Polonium I don't think Western opinion bothers them much...We still need their gas and oil which another strong reason we need to wean ourselves off of Oil.

Russia doesn't carry the same burdens of freedom and democracy that the West has... No one would flinch if we were to find out tomorrow that Russia was torturing or detaining its own citizens.

The US will always get hammered hard on these issues and honestly often times comes across as hypocritical.

Vomitous

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The anonymous editorial writer for the Dom-Post this morning:

"Georgia may be the United States' strongest ally in the region, and a generous contributor to the Coalition of the Willing, but the US needs Mr Putin more than Mr Saakashvili, especially as it seeks Russian help in solving the Iranian nuclear conundrum. That means accepting Russia's message that this affair is Moscow's business and the West should butt out."

Truly, unutterably disgusting.

Environmentalism hobbling us...

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One of the things that’s so worrying in this escalating conflict over ideology and resources is that the Western world is so consumed with environmentalism and doing it “green,” whereas Russia can just act out its expansionism without having to give a damn about such appeasement.
The environmentalist movement will weaken us in a way we can’t afford.

Hi Marcus, I caught the Jon

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Hi Marcus, I caught the Jon Voight interview and liked it.

Can you elaborate about your point?

Pres. Saakashvili ...

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... has just been on CNN invoking the exact same 1938 Sudetenland comparison. He added that part of the appeal of America to Georgians is that it doesn't do shady, Chamberlain-like deals. If only! The Pres said his troops were in Iraq to show solidarity with America and what it stands for. He's probably too innocent to comprehend that even Bush has succumbed to the appeasement mentality, though he, Bush, is showing signs of snapping out of it. Saakashvili would certainly find the spectacle of a supposed ally of freedom advocating an across-the-board vote for Dem-scum utterly incomprehensible.

Obama doesn't hide his socialism/ communism?

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McCain Was Right About

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McCain Was Right About Putin; And Russia Is Just Warming Up!

 Here's an opinion piece with some interesting thoughts from a guy called Ronald Winter whose blog I've just discovered.

McCain

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Hey Mitch, thanks for posting the link to McCain's speech.

I like a lot of what he said. I definitely did not like the gratuitous mention of Christianity in Georgia. That is a non-essential. It has nothing at all to do with the situation. The fact that he chose to bring it up is an ominous sign.

Both candidates are impossible. McCain might buy us a little bit of time on foreign policy and, to a lesser extent, on economics - but he would also continue the Republican tradition of tarnishing the image of Capitalism by being somewhat friendly to Capitalism one day and its worst enemy the next. The "good" thing about Obama is that he is pretty honest about being a Socialist. If the populace can't understand that when Obama says, "We are our brother's keepers" that what he really means is, "I am a Socialist" then we deserve what we get. If Obama wins then at least the further disintegration of the American culture will be seen as an effect of Socialism.

It's bad all the way around. The politicians cannot change until the philosophical ideas driving the culture change.

I encourage everyone to read

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I encourage everyone to read the statement Linz linked to in his previous post. President Saakashvili is a principled, intelligent politician. He identifies the essentials of the Russian attack. America would do great things if we had a principled leader like that.

Hopefully the extent of New

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Hopefully the extent of New Zealand's involvement in this matter is to send a strongly worded email to the Russian Ambassador.

We got involved in a Balkans conflict once before....and have no intention of repeating the exercise. 

On election day...tick the LIBERTARIANZ box...

John McCain...

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What exactly...

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...is New Zealand doing about the situation, I'd like to know. It's so easy to spend someone else's time, money, and influence. How dare you chide America? Chide every country claiming to be interested in freedom. Chide every person claiming to be interested in human rights. Do something about it yourself!! THEN maybe you can chide the big guys, if we hang back!

--Mindy

Pres. Saakashvili's full op-ed ...

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Full Wall St Journal op-ed from which I quoted the Georgian president.

Linz!

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Linz! Perhaps you are seeing the light??!?!

I actually think Bush has his heart in the right place but his ideas are so terribly misguided that he definitely looks like Neville Chamberlain to me.

President Saakashvili understands the American Founding Fathers better than we Americans do. Georgia sure looks like a country that's worth saving. They helped the (misguided) cause in Iraq and now America doesn't lift a finger to help them.

And so the effect is that the thugs win. They win in Russia and soon enough, they will win in Georgia.

"Vladimir Putin's invasion

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"Vladimir Putin's invasion of Georgia is reminiscent of nothing so much as Hitler's pre-invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1938"

I hope he'll end-up as Hitler did-with the bullet in his head and the poison in his mouth.

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Occupied country...

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or puppet state. Does it really make a difference?

Contemporary Russian-style government borders on the totalitarian and supporters of it don't mind poisoning people to get their way. Given these two facts, wouldn't a sovereign elected government not be permitted to crack down on such people?

Tribal tensions may be at the root of this. But the current Georgian President is (on the basis of the Beck interview) overtly pro-freedom, & pro-small government. While Putrid and his cronies overtly seek to reestablish Russia's Super Power status by every means including indiscriminate brute force.

Hence, I'm leaning towards the Georgian side in the absence of any clear (independent) proof of Georgian perfidy.

Russia's end-game...

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...is, in my opinion, to destabalize the power of the Georgian President and Government and to have them replaced with Russian friendly ones.

I don't think Putin's goal is re-conquest of Gerogia directly.

Yes...

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Though I'm loathe to believe the Russian's declaration that Georgia was the aggressor.

I haven't seen anything in the MSM that said that Georgia did anything - for whatever that is worth.

According to the Glenn Beck interview, the current Georgian Pres decided to abolish the old police force - firing 40,000 and rehiring new ones. I'm reaching here, but that would mean that many pro-Russian officials would also have been given the pink slip - no?

What we know:

(1) Georgia wants to join NATO and has sent troops to Afghanistan.

(2) Russia has rattling its rusty sabre at every instance where it perceived NATO encroaching into its sphere of influence.

(3) The Russians are 'backing' the separatist movements in those provinces.

Again, this is a guess, but presumably that extends to the sort of support that Russia gave the Ukrainian ruling party back in 2004. Remember how the then opposition leader got poisoned under under suspicious circumstances?

(4) Notice how the Russians sending Tu95s over the pole.

(5) Notice how the Russians are suggesting that the current Georgian leadership should step down... Hmmm and they are bombing Tblizi too - even as they have declared that they have stopped offensive activities.

Frankly, I don't believe a single thing that those Russian pseudo commie bastards say. And I think I've got a right to state that given their recent history.

Just WTF is going on here? Where can I get the straight scoop on this? The MSM is crap.

In the absence of solid facts, I'm with Lindsay. This stinks of another one of Vlad. Putrid's efforts to reinstate the old Soviet Empire with him at its head.

And were the inhabitants of those provinces peacefully going about their own business and not attempting (as I suspect) to overthrow the Georgian government or such, then I'd agree with you Scott.

Only, as the Ukraine example shows, people need to be wary of separatist movements supported by Vlad. Putrid's Russia. How can I be sure that Georgia's purported aggression in those provinces wasn't an act of pre-emptive self defense?

Well perhaps

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I'm not deluded about Russia's goal to enlarge itself, but this battle is Georgia's fault. South Ossetia and Abkhazia declared "independence" shortly after Georgia did, because the Russians in both regions feared Georgian tribal chauvinism, which was not unreasonable. Of course the Russians are no better, but at the time Georgia's government was far from free, open and transparent. It would be fair to say that the big step towards that was in 2003, leaving these regions out in the cold.

The question is whether it is legitimate for Georgia to invade and bomb these territories to take control from the local militia, when the citizens of those territories are by and large happy with the status quo. The equivalent would have been Cyprus invading the northern half of the island and saying "it's ours, get out Turkey". From the point of view that "the state is sovereign" it is legitimate, from the point of view that waging war on your own people is the initiation of force it isn't.

Georgia has been foolish, it should seek a ceasefire on condition that Russia withdraws to its borders and it withdraw to its previous positions - and there should be engagement about the political status of both regions. Why should Georgia be rewarded for wanting to take control of territories full of people that don't want to be taken control of? Georgia didn't exactly engage on a diplomatic/political level with those regions - it shot at them. Are they more or less likely now to want to be governed by a state that shoots at them?

It's worth noting that this issue is replicated in Azerbaijan (with Nagorno-Karabakh being predominantly Armenian and effectively outside Azeri control), Moldova (same with Trans Dniestr) and of course Chechnya. It's all tribalist nonsense.

Putin's evil has been

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Putin's evil has been apparent for quite some time. Although I was laughingly going to say what is it about Russian psychology that they always gravitate to living as slaves under tyrants.

But then, look around ...

 

[Think I'm going to have to give the Internet a miss until Thursday; the Olympics has used up my broadband, and with only a day to go I'm too tight to double GB's. Dialup speed is just too frustrating.] 

Glenn Beck on Terrorist Russia

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