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Fake ID Submitted by Ptgymatic on Thu, 2008-08-14 15:53.
There is a new (to me, anyway) fake ID posting on SOLO. He's named himself "John Galt" and uses a graphic for a picture. After the scandal of the fake ID "L. Ron Hubbard," which is, by the way, still registered, it seems, and particularly "L. Ron Hubbard's" death threat to Kevin Owen, I'm wondering what goes with allowing fake IDs? I've come in for accusations of using a poor picture (it's the only one of myself in the computer, besides which, I don't think it isn't good enough to identify me) though there are several posters here whose pictures are pretty much worthless as far as identifying the person. I've come in for complaints of being a "troll" which, I gather, means I'm not who I say I am. Some people have claimed I am someone who was previously banned from SOLO. But no-one says who that is, or why I'm supposed to be him! I've been called "inauthentic" for no reason, also. In the face of all of this concern for openness of one's identity, how can these fake IDs be allowed? Beyond the administration's participation in allowing ski-mask posters, why is anonymity needed by the posters themselves? Greg's L. Ron Hubbard ID was slightly funny since that was the authority Kevin Owen was espousing. I think, however, that allowing the principle of "authenticity" to be broached for a small joke shows poor judgment. Which brings up the death threat made under cover of a fake ID! Saying, "...this is no joke..." "L. Ron Hubbard" ordered Kevin Owen to end his posts or be killed. I don't think Kevin Owen took it seriously, though I don't really know. I, however, do think a death threat shows the speaker has lost their sense of proportion. If Greg felt the need to threaten Kevin Owen, he could have done it on his own ID. He only felt comfortable doing it under the fake ID. Civilization is about the non-initiation of force. Initiating force is a horror that all civilized people should feel in their guts. Not true of Greg, though. Not on SOLO, though. Here, initiating force in the form of "a good slap" is not an oxymoron! Here, a death threat is excused as a joke. Because I take a threat of violence seriously I am chastised as being humorless and "politically correct!" This site is largely Libertarian, and there are at least a score of different kinds of "Libertarian" political philosophies, some of which are anarchist. I do not know what form is endorsed, or dominates here. I don't know the political philosophy of every person here. I don't know whose threats are serious, and whose aren't. I do know that making threats of violence is outside Objectivist principles, and that Greg, and Scott DeSalvo, who made a threat against me, know better. I know that when people step outside the rules that they, themselves espouse, it is a sign that they've lost their self-control. Threats of violence bespeak a loss of self-control in otherwise civilized people. Especially in the current cultural environment, where ideologically motivated violence against relative strangers is common, threats mean something. That initiated violence of any sort isn't anathema here is shocking, and telling. That ski-masks are permitted to a few individuals is a disturbing counter-current to the express rules of, as well as the philosophical spirit of, this site. --Mindy
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Mindy
Now, there you go Mindy. Wasn't too hard was it
Mind y
"I do not know what form [of libertarianism] is endorsed, or dominates here."
But you leap into everything anyway. Take a look at for example back-issues of The Free Radical, or easier still, try Lindsay's Blog. It isn't difficult.
"If Greg felt the need to threaten Kevin Owen, he could have done it on his own ID."
He did not heed my suggestion.
http://www.solopassion.com/node/2251#comment-53670
Thanks, Kasper
If you say it's OK, it must all be OK. Just IM me my opinions on things every morning, OK? Gosh, thanks, what would I do without your perspicacity?
Praise the lord (Kasper the Insightful!)
Mindy
Olivia is man Prettiest man
Olivia is a man
Prettiest man I ever saw!
I did not realise L. Ron
I did not realise L. Ron Hubbard was Greg! ..gosh
But on the fake ID front.. there are quite a few of them and it is rather childish when people join solopassion, use a fake ID for the sole purpose of sending abusive emails to other people, and then claim all manner of justification for such behaviour.
With regards to photographs, mine is accurate...but some people's photographs, like Lindsay, Peter Cresswell, Olivia and Glenn...yes..hmmmm...gosh...they are all fakes...(for instance, Lindsay is Chinese and Olivia is a man!)..gosh, just shocking!
On election day...tick the LIBERTARIANZ box...
Mindy
Talk about being obsessive compulsive for bringing issues up out of the grave!
"Because I take a threat of violence seriously I am chastised as being humorless and "politically correct!""
Stop being a self-righteous victim. I too misunderstood what was going on and my initial response was to demand the attention of the administrators.
The issue has been dealt with. You and I were wrong! Let that sink in please, you were wrong! The context of the 'threat' in the preceding statements made by Kevin and Greg's comments actually did verify that it was a joke.
here is a new (to me,
here is a new (to me, anyway) fake ID posting on SOLO. He's named himself "John Galt" and uses a graphic for a picture.
It's an administrator account I made for Lindsay. It is used exclusively for "John Galt Awards". Similar accounts are "Administrator" for posting polls, "The Bravest Man in America" (Ayn Rand) for posting AR quotes, "The Ayn Rand Institute" for posting their press releases and op-eds, "George Reisman" for posting articles from his blog - which he gave Lindsay permission to do, "Drooling Beast" for the "Drooling Beast 'Awards'".
I've come in for complaints of being a "troll" which, I gather, means I'm not who I say I am.
Troll: "An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion."
Greg's L. Ron Hubbard ID
To be fair to Greg, did he actually say this was him? I missed that.
I think, however, that allowing the principle of "authenticity" to be broached for a small joke shows poor judgment.
Duly noted. I don't however.
Which brings up the death threat made under cover of a fake ID!
Saying, "...this is no joke..." "L. Ron Hubbard" ordered Kevin Owen to end his posts or be killed. I don't think Kevin Owen took it seriously, though I don't really know.
Oi vey, not this again. I'm not particularly inclined to dredge up this matter again. If someone, for the sake of humour, was posting as James T Kirk and "threatened" to shoot someone with a phaser, I'd treat it the same. The thing you are forgetting/omitting is that the "threat" that was delivered was in a manner completely and exclusively in line with "L Ron Hubbard" and obviously part of the caricature (like Captain Kirk with a phaser gun - geddit?).
If Greg felt the need to threaten Kevin Owen, he could have done it on his own ID. He only felt comfortable doing it under the fake ID.
See above.