SOLO-International Op-Ed: No to Green Communism

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Submitted by Marcus on Tue, 2009-02-03 23:11

SOLO-International Op-Ed: No to Green Communism!

Marcus Bachler
February 4, 2009

For years the international environmentalist movement has been trying to do what Soviet Russia never could: bring communism to the west. Now they have finally dreamt up a way of achieving that end. The Guardian reports* that a three-year study by the Royal Society for the Encouragement of Arts, Manufacturers and Commerce (RSA) has looked into the possibility of issuing ‘personal carbon allowances’ to all individuals in the UK. The idea would be much like the current European carbon trading scheme for companies that would allow people to buy credits from the idle “...if they go over the budget through indulging in highly polluting activities such as flying or simply consuming too much.”

Such a scheme would not just be politically controversial evoking the fear of an Orwellian Big Brother watching over all indulgent eco-sinners, but it would also be the introduction of full-blown communism to the UK through the back-door. Productive individuals would be punished for being too active and would be forced to relinquish their wealth to the unproductive and idle. Surely the UK public would not stand by?

However any such a potential controversy over this scheme does not put off current Foreign Secretary David Miliband or former Deputy PM John Prescott, who thinks such a scheme may be feasible by 2013. Prescott believes that the population would feel themselves "part of a movement."

What movement would that be John? The marching of Green jack-boots down the street forcing us to sacrifice our lives and livelihoods to the cause of non-existent Man-Made Global Warming? No thanks!

The only movement you would get from me and millions of others is a movement overseas. The moment such a scheme were introduced I would be leaving the UK in favor of any other country clever enough not to fall for such a green Communist regime.

Marcus Bachler: marcusbachler@yahoo.co.uk

SOLO: SOLOPassion.com

http://www.guardian.co.uk/envi...
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Ruth...

Marcus's picture

I have to agree with you to a certain extent.

You are right about Christianity being anti-life and anti-capitalism if you take it at it's word.

However, as Richard and Ellen point out, there are very many different interpretations of it. It depends what you put your emphasis on. As you can see, the Catholics cannot agree amongst themselves on this issue.

It was indeed a variant of Christianity and individuals who thought of themselves as Christians - that supported the progression of 'capitalism' and 'rights' based western civilisation.

Of course that's being destroyed now and to a certain extent Christians are helping that destruction come about, even the Catholics, but not all.

I have to applaud individuals such as Maragret Thatcher, Sarah Palin, James Inhofe and Glenn Beck for example. They all are devoted Christians, but they all strongly stand up for individual rights (in the original spirirt of the US constitution) and capitalism.

Really? Indeed

Ruth123's picture

Christianity opposes all important aspects of the capitalist system, such as profit, profit motive, wealth, selfishness etc.

The right to own property is the right to use ones possessions and dispose of them as one pleases, which is a fundamentally selfish thing. 

One cannot praise capitalism and remain true to Christianity, since vital aspects of any of them goes against the other.

This may be of interest to those who are barking about Shariah finance  -- Pope Gregory the whatever ( I forget) was the first in the 12th century  to forbid Christians to lend or invest money for profit.  Only the Jew was permitted to do so. If any deal went wrong they were beheaded outside their offices.

So don't you tell me Christianity is superior and supports capitalism.

You could of course read the Bible and come back to me.  

Really?

Richard Wiig's picture

Christianity is Marxism/environmentalism personified...anti-life on this earth, anti-happiness, anti-capitalism and so on.

There are doctrines that are anti-life on this earth, or at least anti a happy life, such as the doctrine of original sin, but there are also doctrines that are antithesis of Environmentalism, such as go forth and multiply. And God gave man dominion over the animals, etc. Why do you think the left are so anti-Christian? It's because Christianity is much more capitalist than they'd like it to be.

Pope Benedict ?

Ellen Stuttle's picture

(I'm not sure what number he is.)

I would not be even slightly surprised if he changes his tune on Green ideology before long.

Ellen

Green ideology is disguised

Ruth123's picture

Green ideology is disguised Marxism and IS "incompatible" with Christian beliefs. Logically the Church should be opposed to Green ideology.

Eh? Marxism and environmentalism is totally compatible with Christian beliefs.

Christianity is Marxism/environmentalism personified...anti-life on this earth, anti-happiness, anti-capitalism and so on. The teachings of Jesus - consider the lilies in the field and all that - lead to certain death if followed literally.

So Green ideology fits right in with Christianity. Hence the support of the ultra-conservative Benedict.

Not Unexpected

Ellen Stuttle's picture

From the Catholic Herald item linked in the post below:

Mr Sparkes acknowledges that even ideological neo-conservative opponents of environmentalism have begun to accept scientific evidence to support theories of global warming.

But he is relentless in his criticism of the type of environmentalists "who argue that mankind is just one species among many, sometimes suggesting that it has lower rights than those of other animals because of the alleged damage it has done to the planet". This was evidence, he said, that Green ideology was so incompatible with Christian beliefs that calls from many bishops and priests for the "greening of the Church" were "misguided".

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Green ideology is disguised Marxism and IS "incompatible" with Christian beliefs. Logically the Church should be opposed to Green ideology.

Monckton, you know (yes?), is "a papist." He sometimes in his talks refers to this fact and makes reference to "the divine spark of reason" -- a "spark" which Green ideology disregards.

This Sparkes (ha, re the pun) initiative could develop into something helpful.

He's behind the times, however, in regard to "scientific evidence," unless all he means is evidence of a slight warming trend in the 20th century. The populace at large tends to be so confused between the questions (1) has there been warming? and (2) if yes, did humans do it?, it's hard to tell often which a writer means when simply referring to "global warming."

Ellen

Unexpected Bedfellows

Marcus's picture

I wonder if they've petitioned their 'green' Pope?
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The Catholic Herald

Green ideology ‘as deadly as Communism’
By Simon Caldwell
6 February 2009


An environmentalist dressed as a polar bear campaigns against the expansion of Heathrow Airport during a week of 'climate action' (AP Photo)

A Catholic charity has launched a scathing attack on the Green movement, describing the excesses of environmentalism as an ideology every bit as dangerous as Communism.

While global warming should be a "crucial issue" for the Church, worshippers must be deeply sceptical about many of the claims made by the environmentalist lobby, a new booklet published by the bishops of England and Wales has said.

Written by Russell Sparkes, an expert in ethical investments, it argues that there is a proven tendency among some "Deep Green" activists to exaggerate the threat of global warming to vindicate their calls for government measures to "forcibly" move the world toward a "sustainable path".

It says such tactics are comparable to those of 20th century Marxist ideologues who were determined to impose their views on the world. "Just as Marxism advocated Communism as the only solution to the world's ills, so Deep Greens warn us of major catastrophe to come if we do not adopt their calls for 'radical change'," said Mr Sparkes in the book, Global Warming: How Should we Respond?. Mr Sparkes acknowledges that even ideological neo-conservative opponents of environmentalism have begun to accept scientific evidence to support theories of global warming.

But he is relentless in his criticism of the type of environmentalists "who argue that mankind is just one species among many, sometimes suggesting that it has lower rights than those of other animals because of the alleged damage it has done to the planet". This was evidence, he said, that Green ideology was so incompatible with Christian beliefs that calls from many bishops and priests for the "greening of the Church" were "misguided".

He said: "The reason I do not think the Catholic Church can go 'Green' is that as an ideology, Deep Green thinking runs counter to the Church's teaching. The example of liberation theology illustrates the point. In the 1960s and 1970s people called for the Church to learn from Marxism under the banner of 'liberation theology' in response to the gross social injustices of the time, particularly in Latin America.

"Of course the Church refused to do so in view of the brutal atheism at the heart of Marxism, whilst at the same time repeatedly condemning the political and economic injustices which fuelled social unrest. History has also proved the Church right. In 1989-1990 Communism collapsed in most parts of the world. Think how the critics of the Church would have had a field day mocking it if it had allied itself with Marxism shortly before the Marxist systems fell apart."

The 64-page booklet has been published by the London-based Catholic Truth Society, a Catholic charity under the patronage of Auxiliary Bishop Paul Hendricks of Southwark.

Its publication comes a month before the release of a Government report proposing a raft of highly controversial legislation to tackle global warming, including increased use of abortion and contraception to control population growth...

http://www.catholicherald.co.u...

No end in sight!

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"...domestic flights should be taxed almost out of existence." You can fuck off to North Korea, you Tsarist wanker!!!
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Daily Telegraph

Flights could be rationed, says environment tsar Lord Turner

Families could see the number of flights they can take rationed in order to cut greenhouse gas emissions, Gordon Brown's "environment tsar" has warned.

By Jon Swaine
06 Feb 2009

Lord Turner, the chairman of the Committee on Climate Change, said people would be given personal flight limits to lower pollution from the aviation industry.

"We will have to constrain demand in an absolute sense, with people not allowed to make as many journeys as they could in an unconstrained manner," he told the Commons environmental audit committee.

Lord Turner, whose committee is investigating whether the air industry can meet a target of reducing emissions to below 2005 levels by 2050, said the restriction may need to become permanent.

He added: "It is at least possible that we will come back and say, 'Given the technological position ... we think this is doable with the first flight allocation but we think the second allocation may prove undoable'."...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tra...
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On the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth, Andrew Alexander from the Daily Mail has a solution.
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Faith, hope and what's become the new religion
05th February 2009

Now, this leads to a related subject: global warming. After wrapping up warm, I went to hear former Chancellor Lord Lawson on global warming and its evidence. He argues easily enough that 'saving the planet' has become a substitute religion. Faith, not evidence, is the key.

His audience for the talk about 'the big lies' told in the new creed was some 30 strong, made up of distinguished economists and academics and some intellectually minded businessmen.

After a debate, a vote was called. With so many economists present, this inevitably led to an argument about what the question should be. Suffice it to say that not a single hand was raised to say that Lawson's case was wrong, and the wolf really was at the door.

Yet, as he and others pointed out, our political establishment has swallowed the new doctrine whole, unlike the more sceptical man in the street.

The adopted policies will cost a fortune, Lawson insists. We have committed more than any other nation to carbon reductions. And - always a bad sign - there is all-party agreement.

Don't expect change. As a distinguished former government adviser observed, the bodies receiving public money to assist the save-the-planet cause are too numerous.

Anyone seeking a responsible position in Whitehall who is a heretic will not get a job.

Moreover, as Lawson put it, reversing the present policy would involve all sorts of the committed - 'the chattering classes, the Notting Hill sets, the environmental correspondents' - admitting they had got it wrong and that their faith was false.

We need another Darwin.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/deb...

"Carbon Footprints"

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What a LOAD OF MYSTICAL HORSESHIT!!! Like 'carbon' is such a bad thing! Your post, Marcus, reminds me of some kind of evil plot to take over the UK (and later, the world) by "The Master" from Doctor Who or some kind of James Bond villain. I can't believe the British people would actually go along with something like what Miliband and Prescott are proposing.

Tragic.

And Sandi, I think Obama has certainly been given more than enough rope to hang himself. Can't wait to watch him do it with each new ridiculous policy. Problem is, we're all going along for the ride (down). Looks like the UK may beat the USPS to the bottom, however.

Obama deals with Global Warming by funding

Sandi's picture

US$88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker ship.

More items in the his "stimulus bill" published on
American Thinker.

Eleventh-hour hopes

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Marcus:

"I hope someone steps up to the plate now, before it's too late."

Reminds me of a moment which Larry and I have spoken of many times since which happened during Monckton's talk at the University of Hartford.

Toward the end Monckton was speaking of how England and the European countries were knuckling under to green politics, and he said to the audience that "you're [meaning Americans] the only hope."

Larry and I looked at each other in horror, mutually thinking, as we said in so many words to each other afterward, But the U.S. is knuckling under too!

There's an Arthurian legend pertaining to "Arthur's seat," a stone where supposedly Arthur will re-appear in times of terrible crisis. Larry and I keep hoping that maybe Arthur is sitting there now. (Don't take the hope literally; we don't believe in ghosts.)

Ellen

Cometh the hour, cometh the man...

Marcus's picture

Ellen,

England always seems to go down the pathway to near ruin when somehow someone has stepped up to the plate to rescue her in the nick of time.

England was saved from a dictatorship by a group of Barons getting King John to sign the Magna Carta.

Oliver Cromwell saved England's Parliamentary system from a tyrant King Charles I.

Winston Churchill replaced Neville Chamberlain to save the country from being conquered by fascists.

Margaret Thatcher saved the country from a creeping Marxism that had bankrupted the country.

I hope someone steps up to the plate now, before it's too late.

Christopher Monckton probably cannot do it himself, but maybe he will clear the way for someone who can. Maybe it's too late this time....?

Addendum

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I keep remembering that conversation with Christopher and Juliet in relation to where it happened. We were driving along a road called "Nod Road," a country road with no streetlights, which, in a fair stretch of it, goes past extensive farmlands owned by an Old New England-type farmer, Ronnie Wade. Mr. Wade is no one's fool; he isn't taken in by any of the hype for a minute.

The road goes between two restaurants both of which date back to colonial days. The restaurant to which we were headed -- Old Farms Inn -- started as a forge, and then an inn, along the coach road to Boston from New Haven. Blacksmithing was done at that forge -- the fireplace is extant -- during the Revolutionary War.

I think of the whole setting, and its history, and I contrast to what's happening in the U.S. and Britain today -- and want to cry (tears) and to cry out: NO!!!

Ellen

Indifference degree?

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Marcus:

"The bleeting indifference to the current green NAZIsm and the creeping world-wide communism is sickening."

I wonder if underneath, where it isn't so visible, there isn't increasing outrage -- at least in the U.S. I hope so.

When Christopher Monckton and his wife, Juliet, were here last March, when we were on the way to dinner -- at a restaurant about 20" drive from the university -- we were talking about the situation in England. I was expressing amazement, as in, WHAT has happened to the Brits? Has British backbone completely crumbled?

Juliet said that demographically, the "Brits," as I meant the term, are being submerged by immigration.

But what of the real "Brits" who are still there? Do they not see and hate what's happening? Might they not rebel against it yet?

Ellen

It's all too possible!

Marcus's picture

A few years ago I would have thought this was just an enviro-NAZI's fantasy. Just wanking off.

Unfortunately in these insane times, it is all too possible.
Not just here, but in the US and NZ as well.

The bleeting indifference to the current green NAZIsm and the creeping world-wide communism is sickening.

Maybe our western civilisation will have to be destroyed in order that we may re-discover the value of Liberty and reason once again!

KASS Marcus

Sandi's picture

I wonder if the Brit's are actually aware that they have lost their country yet?

Co-coincidentally,

I had a greenie (cap in hand) at my doorstep this very evening, needless to say much venom was released to the gobsmacked Neanderthal holding the cap.

Know your Enemy

gregster's picture

And it's any bastard buying into the Green cause. Children excepted I suppose.

Sadly RCP has disabled their

Lance's picture

Sadly RCP has disabled their viewer's articles feature for the time being while they revamp it...

Excellent, Marcus!

Jameson's picture

Has anyone submitted this to Real Clear Politics?

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