Know Your Enemy: Robin Hood Responds

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Submitted by Jmaurone on Wed, 2009-07-22 19:44

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Has anyone else seen the commercial for this on CNBC?

Sorry, try not to puke, but you have to know your enemy and what you're up against. I have a feeling this in response to the "John Galt" signs at tea parties...

Seriously, are this people thinking at all? Do they not realize what a sign like this means? And to those who kept telling me "it can't happen here" because this country doesn't know violence the way other countries do, well, you explain to me the implications of this sign.


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Fast forward to 2018: Robin Hood, "robbin' the 'hood"

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Recent events reminded me of this story/post from 2009. People were skeptical, then, of the claim that the Left would be turning to outright violence, signified by the of use "Robin Hood" as a symbol for this project.

Look what's been happening since Trump was elected, and the "Occupy" movement gave way to Antifa. The violence has escalated. Yaron Brook even got a taste of it when they tried to shut down an event featuring him and Sargon of Akkad.
And here is today's example of an outright rejection of peaceful protest in favor of outright violence. The pretense of peaceful protest is gone; they're not even trying to hide it, anymore.

(Actually, they were pretty open about it in 2009, as well, as shown by some of the stories I posted, then. It was just that too many people were keeping their heads in the sand about it, while being purposefully obtuse about understanding what I was saying. (The same people who would probably rush to say that "axshualleee, ostriches don't REALLY put their heads in the ground..." so I'll change that to having their heads up their collective asses.)

As I said then, "the bow and arrow speaks for itself."

http://www.informationliberati...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/new...

Good luck with that...

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Leonid: "Well, maybe it is a proper time now to return to the legend its original meaning and to reclaim Robin Hood as a champion of individual rights including property rights."

Good luck with that...

"This is the horror which

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"This is the horror which Robin Hood immortalized as an ideal of righteousness. It is said he fought against the looting rulers and returned the loot to those who had been robbed, but that is not the meaning of the legend which has survived."

In other words the Robin Hood's legend didn't do him justice been hijacked by altruists and looters.
Well, maybe it is a proper time now to return to the legend its original meaning and to reclaim Robin Hood as a champion of individual rights including property rights.

Rand knew the story...

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Leonid: "Is it possible that Ayn Rand got it all wrong?"

Re-read ATLAS, and THEN ask that question:

I’ve chosen a special mission of my own. I’m after a man whom I want to destroy. He died many centuries ago, but until the last trace of him is wiped out of men’s minds, we will not have a decent world to live in.”
Hank Rearden: “What man?”
Danneskjold: “Robin Hood.”

"He was the man who robbed the rich and gave to the poor. Well, I'm the man who robs the poor and gives to the rich-or, to be exact, the man who robs the thieving poor and gives back to the productive rich."

"This is the horror which Robin Hood immortalized as an ideal of righteousness. It is said he fought against the looting rulers and returned the loot to those who had been robbed, but that is not the meaning of the legend which has survived. He is remembered, not as a champion of property, but as a champion of need, not as a defender of the robbed, but as a provider of the poor. He is held to be the first man who assumed a halo of virtue of practicing charity with wealth which he did not own, by giving away goods which he had not produced, by making others pay for the luxury of his pity. He is the man who became the symbol of the idea that need, not achievement, is the source of rights, that we don't have to produce, only to want, that the earned does not belong to us, but the unearned does. He became a justification for every mediocrity who, unable to make his own living, had demanded the power to dispose of the property of his betters, by proclaiming his willingness to devote his life to his inferiors at the price of robbing his superiors. It is this foulest of creatures – the double-parasite who lives on the sores of the poor and the blood of the rich – whom men have come to regard as the moral idea." ". . . Do you wonder why the world is collapsing around us? That is what I am fighting, Mr. Rearden. Until men learn that of all human symbols, Robin Hood is the most immoral and the most contemptible, there will be no justice on earth and no way for mankind to survive."

It's clear that Rand knew of the best interpretation of Robin Hood, and was going after what his name had become. And, judging by recent events, I'd say that Rand got it, all right.

Who was the real Robin Hood?

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"[Robin Hood] is the man who became a symbol of the idea that need, not achievement,"

Robin Hood in fact returned tax money collected by the Sheriff of Nottingham to the people. In other words he acted as Ragnar Danneskjold. Michelle Malkin writes, “The original Robin Hood tales of the Middle Ages celebrated a renegade who rose up against property rights violations and taxation abuses. His archenemies were not private traders or bankers, but the local government tax collector, the Sheriff of Nottingham and the power-grabbing ruler, Prince John. Robin Hood, in other words, was far more tea party than flea party.”

The fictional Robin Hood lived in a feudal society, where all wealth was amassed through the coercion of a powerless, illiterate, peasant class by a callous oligarchy. The rich, from whom Robin stole, were thieves themselves. Robin was merely recovering stolen property. In this context, he was the righteous guardian of property rights.

Continue reading on Examiner.com Robin Hood must die - Atlanta Habersham County Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/habers...

"If the legends are true, and Robin and his men robbed from the rich and gave to the poor, it is likely that they fought the feudal system by robbing the taxers and returning the money to the oppressed taxpayers among the peasantry"

http://mises.org/daily/1492

Is it possible that Ayn Rand got it all wrong?

Robin Hood Responds, Redux

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First comment, from 2009: "In either case, I don't see anything to get particularly excited about here. Observe, for example, that the copy is specifically aimed at helping poor New Yorkers. That suggests it's not a targeted response to any Tea Party sign or movement."

Have you got it, yet? (Sometimes these thing take time to play out, and patience to observe...)

Protesters to Call for 'Robin Hood' Tax

“Occupy D.C.” protesters are invoking a medieval folk hero and the specter of financial history for their latest demonstration.

"On Saturday, protesters are planning to take part in a march on the U.S. Treasury to demand the implementation of a so-called "Robin Hood" tax."

Wall St. Protesters Push "Robin Hood" Tax

"The Occupy Wall Street demonstrators are continuing their march toward globalism as they have now endorsed a global tax system, to be instituted and monitored by a new global government. With the G20 summit set to take place November 3 in France, the directors of the Wall Street protests are now setting their sights on the implementation of the “Robin Hood tax” on all transactions involving shares, bonds, and derivatives, and possibly other items as well.

"According to protesters, the funds raised from the Robin Hood tax would be put toward worthy causes such as 'reducing poverty in the third world' and 'combating climate change.'

Occupy Wall Street's 'Robin Hood Tax' A Tough Sell At G20

"The 99 percenters at Occupy Wall Street are hoping their European counterparts can pressure G20 leaders this weekend into adopting what they call a Robin Hood tax on financial transactions. But it faces some hefty opposition.

"The Robin Hood tax, sort of like a Tobin tax, was proposed by Germany as a means to raise revenue for countries hit hard by the 2008 housing and credit markets crash. Yet, the estimated 1% transaction tax would have to be global in nature for it to work, and countries as diverse as the UK and Russia are against it."

"The tax is being proposed for members of the EU only, but there is a push to make it global."

Mayor warns against Robin Hood Tax

"The Mayor of London, Boris Johnson has written to European Commission President, José Manuel Barroso, to warn him that the introduction of a ‘financial transactions tax ’ (or Robin Hood Tax) across EU member states would drive business to financial centres outside the union and damage its economy."

Sorry about that, glad you're

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Sorry about that, glad you're on top of it.

If you've got some time at home to chill would you like to spend it expanding on what this thread is about? Beats me!

I am almost certain that I did Mark. Weird huh?

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And yes, it is unusual and potentially very nasty. However, the anti-virals have kicked in and I am on the mend.

Thanks for your sentiments.

Didn't you have that as a kid

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Didn't you have that as a kid Sandy? Chicken pox is unusual to get as an adult: hope you get better soon.

Joe seems to be catching that fever here!

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You are spreading a fever Rick?

As a matter of co-incidence, I am currently laid up with chicken pox. OOOoo its nasty! Even my own mother couldn't look at my face at the moment.

Have you read Atlas Shrugged

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Have you read Atlas Shrugged Rick?

Yeah, but I prefer to make my own arguments. And you prefer to cut-n-paste other people's words and outubes like the Autobot Bumblebee.

And Joe seems to be catching that fever here!

Can someone articulate where the concern is coming from? For my benefit?

"Seriously, are this people thinking at all? Do they not realize what a sign like this means? And to those who kept telling me "it can't happen here" because this country doesn't know violence the way other countries do, well, you explain to me the implications of this sign."

Do you reckon you're thinking and realise what it means? WHAT can't happen here? What implications can YOU explain?

What are you bloody talking about? With all due respect and affection to you both.

Students Organising America

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By Voter Fraud.

 

"The judge walked up to the group and heard one woman "directing individuals, dividing up the group ... and assigning vouchers to groups...

.... the judge asked a woman taking one of the groups to the polling place if she knew the individuals with her and the woman replied she didn't.

News Story

Robin Hood and Soros

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Sandi, after watching Glenn Beck's expose on Soros, I started to wonder if Robin Hood Responds and Soros were connected, and I did find this:

"Your support is deeply appreciated, and I hope you will take advantage of a challenge grant from George Soros and Robin Hood's board to match each gift 1:1, up to $100 million. As always, the board pays all administrative expenses. Never has your support mattered more than now..."

Benign on the surface, unless you take into account the charges against George Soros, which, admittedly, I am only learning about now, but, if true...

Robin Hood is the most immoral and most contemptible

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"[Robin Hood] is the man who became a symbol of the idea that need, not achievement, is the source of rights, that we don‘t have to produce, only to want, that the earned does not belong to us, but the unearned does. He became a justification for every mediocrity who, unable to make his own living, has demanded the power to dispose of the property of his betters, by proclaiming his willingness to devote his life to his inferiors at the price of robbing his superiors. . . . Until men learn that of all human symbols, Robin Hood is the most immoral and the most contemptible, there will be no justice on earth and no way for mankind to survive."

- Ayn Rand (Atlas Shrugged, 1957)

Have you read Atlas Shrugged Rick?

The bow and arrow speaks for

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The bow and arrow speaks for itself, and I'm calling it for the threat that it is.

Sorry, can you help me out? You haven't actually called anything, haven't identified anything and given it a name and typed it.

It sounds like you've got some kind of self-evident iconographic interpretation that's so obvious you don't even need to talk about it?

I'd really like to be able to keep up, can you spell it out for those of us whose telepathy is on the blink?

Hope you're doing well buddy.

I came across these comments at Soros funded "Media Matters"

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"Actually, the poor in our nation, the disadvantaged in our nation, DESPERATELY needed the wealthy to be forced to help them out."

"Selfishness is the greatest sin...... it causes rich people to hoard their wealth, more wealth than they need, at the expense of poor people who don't have enough."

It would appear that Robin Hood is indeed a hero of looters.

Do you see it NOW?

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You'd better, because it's RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

http://www.realclearpolitics.c...

Liberal Columnist Urges "Violence" And "Revolution"

"Liberal columnist and cartoonist Ted Rall, author of the "Anti-American Manifesto," urges violence in some cases to save the country.

Rall says the left has been 'very peaceful' but questions 'where has that gotten us?'

And now for something completely different...

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The bow and arrow speaks for

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ATLAS was full of people crying "but I didn't mean THAT!" The bow and arrow speaks for itself, and I'm calling it for the threat that it is.

Implications

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As usual, the symbol doesn't convey exclusively any one thing. But, looking at the website, it's clear that this is just the usual woolly-minded "We must help the downtrodden" bullshit that has been with us forever. I don't see any particular call to violence, certainly. Robin Hood is here simply being used as a symbol of one who "helps the downtrodden."

So long as it's voluntary, fuck them and the horse they can't afford to ride in on. To the extent they try to inculcate guilt in order to incent individuals to contribute, fuck them twice. In either case, I don't see anything to get particularly excited about here. Observe, for example, that the copy is specifically aimed at helping poor New Yorkers. That suggests it's not a targeted response to any Tea Party sign or movement.

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