My Avatar review

Bosch Fawstin's picture
Submitted by Bosch Fawstin on Wed, 2010-01-06 16:27

A good looking piece of shit.


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Doug

Rosie's picture

Avatar is an anti-West movie made under the influence of white man's burden / white man's guilt philosophy. The movie glorifies non-white characters and demonizes white characters (there are some exceptions).

Totally agree. And children LOVE the film. It accords entirely with the education system in this country.

Its seems to me that multiculturalism is a far more formidable enemy than Marxism ever was.

By coincidence, a woman just came to my door with a survey. One of the questions was, "Do you think that a multicultural society is a stronger society than a monocultural society?" This question was from a company that was supposedly doing a survey about media - all other questions, but one, was finding out which tv stations, newspapers and magazines I enjoyed and why. (The survey was very short since I don't watch tv and get my news online!) The other non-related-to-media question was, "Do I think marijuana should be legalised?"

What do you make of that? What is the connection to media there? Am I being paranoid?!

anti-west & anti-white

Doug Bandler's picture

the lefty liberals actually complain that it is racist and patronizing

This is what gets me. Avatar is an anti-West movie made under the influence of white man's burden / white man's guilt philosophy. The movie glorifies non-white characters and demonizes white characters (there are some exceptions). This movie is yet another instance of the growing anti-white racism of today's Left. This is seen most clearly in the Left's constant accusations that Tea Party members are racist merely by virtue of rejecting welfare-state politics.

Yet Leftist critics look at this movie and see it as racist. My guess is that they are angry that Cameron portrayed non-whites as noble savages. Leftists agree with the anti-capitalist, ant-military themes of the movie, its just that they would have liked them presented in a way which didn't show non-whites (and my take is that the blue Na'vi are stand-ins for either blacks or North American Indians) as primitive.

Its seems to me that multiculturalism is a far more formidable enemy than Marxism ever was.

Curt

Rosie's picture

What is the Jewish word that sounds like it should be spelt "schmautz" and means sentimental, cliched and a box office hit? Eye

Finally saw it

Curt Holmes's picture

I rented the DVD for a dollar a few days ago.

I would say Bosch has it about right, except it didn't strike me as that "good looking."

Bosch's review dissuaded me

gregster's picture

and that's sealed it. I won't watch it ever, as with An Inconvenient Truth.

I watched Avatar on the plane...

Marcus's picture

...the 2D version.

That probably focussed my attention more onto the story.

If you forget the lefty liberal crap we all know Cameron is touting - my evaluation is this.

The film is too long, almost 3 hours!!!

The first half is incredibly boring spending a good hour and a half just setting up the characters and story.

The second half is more like the sort of action-film you would expect from James Cameron.

Nobody seems to have been happy with the story in the end, the lefty liberals actually complain that it is racist and patronizing.

And from the rational side of the room, it is anti-military and anti-corporate.

It is only liked by those nerds who love 3D special effects in action movies and couldn't care less about the plot.

If Mr Bean had been in Avatar

Kasper's picture

I couldn't agree with Mike's

Mark Hubbard's picture

I couldn't agree with Mike's post more.

The story in Avatar was appalling, I was looking for Michael Moore in the writing credits.

[Incidentally, Cameron just took out Best Director in the Golden Globes.]

... wait a minute. Reed has flounced on the basis of a movie review? Jeez.

"A good looking piece of shit"

Robert's picture

Is an example of argument by intimidation?

Sounds like a simple evaluation to me.

Mr. Reed's Comment

mfgreaves's picture

Mr. Reed's comment is pretty hard to believe.
Was there a rational thought in there that I missed?

Mr. Cameron is an extremely talented and hard-working artist;
no one can deny that he is one of the most successful film makers ever.

The values which Cameron consistently embeds in his stories are repugnant;
not just to self-identified objectivists, but to anyone who ever agreed with
almost anything that Rand ever wrote or thought.

Cameron has "greedy" corporations disregarding human life in Aliens.
He has the character Bud willing to destroy himself for an improbable
goal in The Abyss. He has Cyberdyne corporation leading to the
near destruction of humanity in Terminator II. Martyrdom runs
through almost every Cameron film that I can think of.
And now we have nature worship in Avatar.

Skillful communicators can still hold bankrupt values.
I'm sure that Avatar is a masterful production.
And I'm sure that the polarized-light 3D technology will be important.

Is Steve Reed sure that he ever agreed with Rand?

Mike

Looking at a ticket stub

Steve Reed's picture

I came to a few conclusions last night, after getting home from the movies.

First, that James Cameron remains what I've long believed him to be: one of the goddamn best storytellers in the history of cinema.

Second, that this particular creation of his is a visual, technical, and anti-authoritarian masterpiece.

Third, that I'm tired, beyond being bone-weary, of encountering over thirty years of "Objectivist Correctness" about art — a variety that's just as bad as what is thrown at us from any other corner of our civilization.

Fourth, that I'm truly ashamed, in the court of my own conscience, for letting that "O.C." too often trump my own esthetic responses.

And finally, that I'm fed up, to the point of intellectual nausea, at seeing Objectivist venues being filled with Arguments from Intimidation that are used as a substitute for genuine discussion.

So, goodbye — at least for now — and good luck.

Hahaha

Ross Elliot's picture

Nothing gets by you, Marcus.

My God!

Marcus's picture

'I watched a short doco on the making of Avatar today. It cost US$237 million.'

That was one hell of an expensive documentary! I'm surprised they had enough left over to make the film Smiling

As an aside...

Ross Elliot's picture

...I watched a short doco on the making of Avatar today. It cost US$237 million.

The technology used was stunning.

Flash over substance. What the collectivists could never do with missiles and intimidation, James Cameron is doing with glitter and story.

Tenants and Tenets

Lindsay Perigo's picture

The view of some illiterate who doesn't know the difference is of no interest to any literate.

The Atlas Shrugged of the Left

gregster's picture

"One would struggle to find two world views that are more opposite than those of Ayn Rand and James Cameron, but both have found success in crafting stories with very little moral ambiguity. In the end, Atlas Shrugged is a story of the triumph of the individual over the collective, while Avatar is an amalgamation of Hollywood and the liberal left’s collectivist political fetishes. While both works will undoubtedly delight those who are predisposed to their respective ideological tenants, it remains to be seen whether or not Cameron’s Avatar will hold up to the test of time as Rand’s masterpiece has."

Nice, Bosch...

Ross Elliot's picture

...but why not say what you really think?

Eye

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