The Great Symphonies -- Schubert, Schumann and Brahms

Jason Quintana's picture
Submitted by Jason Quintana on Tue, 2006-04-04 23:48.

This week I am giving suggestions for recordings of the great symphonies that were created by Beethoven's German successors Franz Schubert, Robert Schumann and Johannes Brahms. While every great 19th century composer can probably claim a Beethoven influence, it is most obvious in the music of these three men. And, like Beethoven the three were not single genre composers in the way that some of the other great 19th century composers were.

Since I only have one recording of each of Schubert's earlier symphonies I will stick to recordings of his 8th and 9th here. Others might argue that the earlier works deserve to be included in a list like this and that is probably true but at the moment I don't have a well formed opinion.

Franz Schubert

Symphony #9

Wand / Berlin Philharmonic (RCA) The outstanding Schubert 9.

Symphony #8 (“The Unfinished”)

Wand / Berlin Philharminic (RCA) The new Berlin Philharmonic version is great, but Wand's older NDR versions of his Schubert are excellent as well and are probably cheaper if you can find them.

Kleiber / Vienna Philharmonic (DG) Kleiber made 6 or 7 commercial recordings and all of them are legendary.

Robert Schumann

There are 3 great sets of Schumann Symphonies. Instead of discussing individual recordings I will direct you to these sets.

Szell / Cleveland Orchestra (Sony) The all time classic set.

Barenboim / Berlin Staatskapelle (Teldec) The great modern set.

Bernstein / Vienna Philharmonic (DG) Lenny at his best.

Johannes Brahms

Symphony #1

Walter / Columbia Symphony Orchestra (Sony) Old school Brahms.

Klemperer / Philharmonia (EMI) I can't make Brahms recommendations without including Klemperer.

Symphony #2

Szell / Cleveland Orchestra (Sony) Szell and his orchestra were the masters of the standard rep.

Walter / Columbia Symphony Orchestra (Sony) Like your favorite pair of old shoes.

Symphony #3

Szell / Cleveland Orchestra (Sony) Unsurpassed. One of the great accomplishments of the Szell/Cleveland era.

Sanderling / Dresden Staatskapelle (EuroDisc) The Dresden group had the ideal Brahms sound.

Symphony #4

Kleiber / Vienna Philharmonic (DG) One of the great classical albums. Desert Island.

Giulini / Chicago Symphony Orchestra (EMI) Distant second. Though Klemperer, Szell and Walter are all decent.

Next up are Dvorak and Tchaikovsky


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Watch those double

JoeM's picture

Watch those double entendres, Rick...I might get the wrong idea.

Hmmm...try Apocalyptica, then.


Try try again

Rick Giles's picture

Looking very forward to it Jason.

Listened to several of your suggestions Joe, but I guess you're just not hard like me. Mere showtunes. Lawrence of Arabia track wasn't among what I sampled but I saw the movie not 6mths ago and I wasn't stirred then, ergo it can't be any good either. Smiling

When the Christians converted the Pagans they offered miracals. If Classicals are going to convert Rockers then they need to show they can invoke at least as much pathos by their genra as rock commands. So says I.


Tune in Next Week

Jason Quintana's picture

Rick, the composers I am discussing next week should fit what you are asking for. Though these are full scale works you can digest them a movement at a time if you prefer.

- Jason


Lawrence of Arabia's

Ross Elliot's picture

Lawrence of Arabia's soundtrack is fantastic. Get the remastered 2 disc DVD and combine the stunning visuals with the thrilling music. Wow!


Classical Thunder.

JoeM's picture

Rick, I'm here for ya. Here's my list of tunes you're probably familiar with already:

Orff's Carmina Burana "Fortuna Imperix Mundi"

Copeland's Billy the Kid "Hoedown"

Sibelius "Belhazzar's Feast"

Holst's Planet Suite, particularly "Mars, the Bringer of War" and "Jupiter, Bringer of Jollity"

Mussoursky "Pictures at an Exhibition" (up there with "Bald Mountain..."

Maurice Jarre soundtracks to "Dr. Zhivago" El Condor", "Lawrence of Arabia", "Jesus of Nazareth"

Ravel's "Rapsodie Espagnole"

Enrique Batiz "Huapango" Orquestra del Festival de Mexico

(Actually, I'd pit some of the Spanish Orchestral pieces up against the Italian operas anyday for their passion.)

And of course, anything by Wagner!


Not really, no

Rick Giles's picture

Okay, I'm willing to give this classical stuff a twirl.

But if I'm going to forgoe listening to a rock track I want something good. I want something thunderous and terrible! Okay?

I listened to the V.Vendetta Tchaikovski but it was too rushed! I like 'Night on Bald Mountain' and want something like that. None of this tinkle tinkle business that belongs in a musical jewlery box.

That's what I want. Does it exist? Suggest two or three tracks to me, somebody, that don't mess around. Delicate can wait until I'm an old man, don't waste my time. Violence and thunder if you please.


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