Must Read: Michael Savage's "Trickle Up Poverty"

atlascott's picture
Submitted by atlascott on Sat, 2010-11-06 01:02

Michael Savage's new book "Tickle Up Poverty: Stopping Obama's Attack on Our Borders, Economy and Security" is not a dry scholarly work, but rather, an argument backed by common sense and facts.

Mr. Savage does a great job exposing that Obama is a naked Marxist, just as many of us have feared from the very beginning. Savage analyzes Socialist strategy from Marx and Lenin and other notable SOcialists and draws a clear parallel between these strategies and Obama's plan for America.

I have often thought of Linz as a more eloquent Michael Savage, and I can almost imagine Mr. Savage's words coming from Linz's mouth - or fingertips.

It is a worthwhile read. I enjoyed the book thoroughly. Savage is not an Objectivist, but who cares? He's RIGHT about so much and is the biggest media star to address exactly what Obama is and the harm he is causing that Objectivists should take note of him and support him and his well-crafted message to all to whom the fate of the United States is of pressing concern.


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Regarding race and the Left

Doug Bandler's picture

Whites, or freedom lovers in general?

The only reason I bring up race is because the Left is making an issue out of it. In America right now the Left is in the process of creating a reverse Jim Crow environment through the anti-discrimination laws. Plus they are demonizing whites for just trying to limit the welfare-state. They are inciting a race war (also a class war). Blacks, Hispanics, Asians (and Jews as well) all vote predominantly Democrat. So what we are witnessing is a race war as well as being an ideological one.

With regards to immigration, most libertarians or free-market types want open immigration which would bring in more Hispanics. Problem is that in today's climate this would ensure that the Left has total dominion over the country. The Tea Party wouldn't stand a chance. That's why I bring up race Greg. I don't give a shit what a person looks like as long as they stand for liberty. But in today's world, there is a danger if the whites lose their majority because the Left will effectively have complete control of the government forever or until revolution. And that is all that would unseat them and that would be bloody. Very bloody.

Wording

gregster's picture

Whites, or freedom lovers in general?
I do fear the consequences of whites losing their majority in today's cultural context.

Scott

Doug Bandler's picture

Interesting comments. I think that Objectivists need to develop their approach to immigration more. I don't like the term "open immigration." I like that some Objectivists are starting to call it "non-protectionist" immigration because they realize that borders are not fictions (like the libertarians treat them). There needs to be a rational policing of the borders. There also needs to be thought given to cultural assimilation. I do fear the consequences of whites losing their majority in today's cultural context. The reason I say this is because I know that if blacks and hispanics become a majority in the context of an egalitarian Left society, there will be a race war thanks to the sickness and depravity of the Left. No easy answers with immigration.

Borders

atlascott's picture

For fun, I just finished reading Adam Carolla's "In 50 Years, We'll All Be Chicks" -- which I heartily recommend because its damned funny.

But he makes an excellent point about Lefties and Open Border Objectivists ridiculing the idea of a fence or wall.

If fences or walls don't work -- why do we build them around prisons?

Or mental health facilties?

Or juvenile detention centers?

Why were they built around castles? Why do we build them around our homes or property?

Why do we build them around our schools?

The next time a Leftie says "fences don't work" then just offer to take down the fence around his kid's private school that keeps the drug addicts and sex offenders away from the playground, and see how they feel about it.

The "No Fence" argument is just a fiction used by people who do not understand that we are in the midst of a cultural replacement -- the replacement of American culture of individualism and achievement and progress, in favor of a totalitarian poverty communal culture, which is what our friends from Mexico, Central and South America are bringing us, along with our Middle Eastern friends.

Pointing to past assimilation is not a band-aid for this reality, either, since school curricula now kow-tow to foreign cultures instead of teaching kids what it means to be, and how to be American. Some want the dream of America. Others ride on her like a tick, getting fat until the blood is gone.

Tariffs

atlascott's picture

A brief summary of American import/export policy is this:

Outgoing American goods are generally taxed heavily by the countries which import them.

Incoming goods from other countries are given favored status by having lesser, or no, tariffs applied.

Factor in that the proliferation of American safety and environmental laws and a generally unionized labor force and you see that the US ("our leaders") has made it harder and harder for American manufacturing to compete in any case, it is not difficult to see that problem.

America has made it easy for foreign competitors to sell their stuff here, and we have made it exceedingly difficult, or have allowed our trade partners, to make it exceedingly difficult to sell American manufactured goods THERE.

There is no reason for a bi-polar trade policy. Let's get rid of tariffs across the board, OR impose the same tariffs our trade partners impose on American exported goods or the way to convincing them that open trade policies are best.

Know what I mean? How does

Rick Giles's picture

Know what I mean?
How does Obama, or anyone, attack a border?

Like, with a giant eraser or something? And a battle cry?

Not trying to hijack

Rick Giles's picture

Not trying to hijack anything. I'm really interested to see if there's substance behind the support for these things the man upholds. Like, nationalism.

Rick

Big Ben's picture

Why don't you just listen to some long Michael Savage clips and make your own mind up what he is rather than hi jack this post to be childish.

Scott would still like to hear what you thought of the chapter that talks about tareffs on chinese goods.

Who are you trying to speak

Rick Giles's picture

Who are you trying to speak for when you say we?

Ye and me? You're not still into Nugent, right?

The terms nationalistic and anti-immigration are to simiplistic to apply to Savage

Is that because he's a man of great personal integrity and intellectual sophistication as to transcend fault? How do you get that status?

The man is entertaining when in full flight though even when you couldn't disgree more with what he is saying which is one of the reasons he's popular.

Which is the higher value though? Being true and moral or being entertaining?

Imagine if we picked out our political and news leaders based on how entertaining and photogenic and popular they were? What kind of country would we be living in?

Who are you trying to speak for

Big Ben's picture

Who are you trying to speak for when you say we? The terms nationalistic and anti-immigration are to simiplistic to apply to Savage. You'll be able to find heaps of quotes of him saying some unpleasent views but he talks infront of micro phone 3 hours a day for living so every stupid thought he's ever had is probably on a youtube clip.

Is the man rasist? No but he is a culturalist. The man is entertaining when in full flight though even when you couldn't disgree more with what he is saying which is one of the reasons he's popular.

He sounds like a bit of a

Rick Giles's picture

He sounds like a bit of a nationalistic anti-immigration Ted Nugent-type of joker doesn't he, Ben? We don't like them.

Tareffs

Big Ben's picture

What did you think of the chapter on putting Tareffs on chinese goods? I was put off reading the book a bit hearing that that was in it.

To some degree I can see his point but I think he kinda mises a more important issue that being if the US can't compete with chinise products in the US how does he expect them to compete in the world market were they need to sell them to get the fed back in the black.

Thanks Scott

gregster's picture

"You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... Cut it out Giles.

Tickle Up Poverty

Rick Giles's picture

Michael Savage's new book "Tickle Up Poverty: Stopping Obama's Attack on Our Borders, Economy and Security" is not a dry scholarly work, but rather, an argument backed by common sense and facts.

Facts are hard to find. Can you explain how borders are being attacked? US geographical ones is it?

Mr. Savage does a great job exposing that Obama is a naked Marxist, just as many of us have feared from the very beginning

Can you say more about that? How is he a Marxist? And how is it naked Marxism if it's covert?

Savage analyzes Socialist strategy from Marx and Lenin and other notable SOcialists and draws a clear parallel between these strategies and Obama's plan for America.

What strategies are you hinting at here? Like, is he trying to take over the world do you think?

Savage is not an Objectivist, but who cares? He's RIGHT about so much and is the biggest media star

If being an Objectivist means anything it must also mean upholding the values of justice and honesty. It's not enough to be right, or to be a star. It needs to be for the right reasons. So, is this a work based on empiricism and reason? Bigoted radio shock-jocks don't often trouble themselves with that so is this an exceptional case?

Interesting, Scott

Craig Ceely's picture

I didn't take you for a Savage fan.

You mention that it's not a scholarly book. Apparently Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism, by Stanley Kurtz, is quite scholarly, and I've been looking to acquire a copy and read it. I think, frankly, that it doesn't take much for an Objectivist to see Obama as a socialist, but "naked Marxist?" That sounds like quite the read.

And as for the fate of the United States ... you already know my thoughts on that.

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