Objectivists with disability insurance! Have the true courage to put your $5,000 where your mouth because I have.

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Submitted by Anonymous Guest on Tue, 2012-02-14 07:22

If what Objectivists hold true (for themselves) really is TRUE then I propose a good faith opportunity for you to earn probably the easiest $5,000 ever.

I'll happily pay the 1st objectivist (who owns disability -including sickness cover- insurance with either AXA, Sovereign, Tower, AMP, Asteron, OnePath or Fidelity Life) $5,000 if they can provide irrefutable proof that there was not even a scant element of faith employed by either themselves or the insurer in the make-up of their insurance contract.

I have the FAITH that if you really do have true courage, then you'll come, because it has been made clear to me by many Objectivists that relying on faith is below them.

By the way please excuse my use of faith. I know it's a crutch but maybe one of you could help me see the error of my so called "self-deluded" ways.

P.S Only exception to this offer is Mark Hubbard (and anyone who is a try hard - i.e no 2nd chances for half baked attempts at proof because I ain't got the time to sort through rubbish replies)

This is because when I proposed a similar type offer to him previously all he merely did was demand me to take his unverified word on something that supposedly happened in his life as evidence of the PROOF. Not only that, but he also reacted like a spoilt kid who had his toys taken off him.


But I've already explained

Mark Hubbard's picture

But I've already explained why no one can win your bet, and proved it by winning your bet. So sticking around would be pointless, wouldn't it.

Mark. All I can say in

Burnsy's picture

Mark. All I can say in response to your predictably blithering 1/2 baked nonsensical retorts is "Watch this space for the next two weeks"

But Big Bad Burnsy

Mark Hubbard's picture

the bet is still legitimate and merely requires physical proof (i.e a type of proof that you cherish).

I did that already: here - http://www.solopassion.com/nod...

and again, here - http://www.solopassion.com/nod...

But then like a 'fraudulent' insurance company, you simply wrote this bet like an insurance policy with a scurulous exclusion of 'Mark Hubbard', as if admitting I am akin to an act of God.

There was a day when you could trust your average old Christian martyr to have a bit of honour.

It's clear to any rational

Burnsy's picture

It's clear to any rational person reading this blog that you yourself have:

1. engaged your own faith faculties (as demonstrated by your expectant pleading response to my offer)
&
2. failed to offer any proof that the bet is a fraud

Irrespective of the plethora of your ignorantly imagined (by you) aspects you vitriolically ascribe to christianity, the bet is still legitimate and merely requires physical proof (i.e a type of proof that you cherish).

Big Bad Burnsy

Mark Hubbard's picture

Can't you see through your God Goggles, that you prattle on endlessly about faith, which you live by - Objectivists and other humans don't - and yet you set up a bet based on physical proof? When your faith precludes physical proof because reality for you is at the arbitrary whim of the Everlasting Loving Finger Licking Good God (Who killed up to half the people in the Bible).

So your bet is a fraud, isn't it? Because you have set the terms in the Heaven of the Never Never where you never have to pay out. And I think you'll find a compassionate Objectivist wouldn't take your money anyway: it would be too much like taking candy from fat children.

Time limit to win bet is two

Burnsy's picture

Time limit to win bet is two weeks because that ought to give you enough time.
Also note that "make-up of their insurance contract" naturally includes the application, underwriting and policy acceptance stages that give rise to the issued contract.

Burnsy

Mark Hubbard's picture

Seymourblogger is not your mum?

Ross you've had your

Burnsy's picture

Ross you've had your chance.
I said "actual make up of any contract of disability insurance owned by an Objectivist".

Actuarial tables are only one part of the CONTRACT that is issued on a life.

Just so long as you can

Burnsy's picture

Just so long as you can provide irrefutable proof that you are not the beneficiary of your insurer extending good faith to YOU

I.e that you can provide irrefutable proof to me that they in turn only paid the claim,
as a reult of you providing them with irefutable proof that the insured item was in fact irrefutably yours.
Along with irrefutable proof that the damage was caused in the manner you claim.
And irrefutable proof that the receipt is not a fake.

While you at it remember to include irrefutable proof that no element of good faith played any part of the insurance contract (may I inform you that the application, underwriting and policy acceptance process gives rise the contract).

I would not be surprised if you needed the $5,000 more than me.

Huh?

Ross Elliot's picture

Faith-based insurance?

Life insurance is based upon actuarial tables. And indeed all other insurances are based upon similar tables of risk. This isn't faith, it's probability.

I guess I win $5k.

Typical Christian, going off

Mark Hubbard's picture

Typical Christian, going off self-knowledge, can't believe what anyone says.

P.S Only exception to this offer is Mark Hubbard (and anyone who is a try hard - i.e no 2nd chances for half baked attempts at proof because I ain't got the time to sort through rubbish replies). This is because when I proposed a similar type offer to him previously all he merely did was demand me to take his unverified word on something that supposedly happened in his life as evidence of the PROOF.

Really?

I've got the receipt from the insurance company in my records, once I get to my records room, I can post the receipt. So I assume the bet's back on then? http://www.solopassion.com/nod...

Shall we increase it to the $5,000?

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