My DVD of "Atlas Shrugged" - Part II has Arrived !!

Sandi's picture
Submitted by Sandi on Thu, 2013-02-28 06:08

I just can't wait to see it! Big smile


Yes !

Jules Troy's picture

Great piece! He is spot on when he says the film will never get good reviews due to the nature of the media and he is correct!

Back to Atlas ...

Lindsay Perigo's picture

Oh man

Jules Troy's picture

I LOVE that movie!  Made me laugh when she is cutting vegetables and then throws the knife into the wall!  "Chefs do that!". 

My very own favourite Warrior Woman movie...

Olivia's picture

is the Long Kiss Goodnight with Geena Davis.

How could any man resist that??

The funniest line:

Big Bad Burly Black Dude: (Down dark alley-way) Hey babe, you looking for a good time?
Geena Davis: (Unperturbed) Na, I'm saving myself for getting raped.

Eye

Rand would've loved Charlie's Angels, Doug, because it portrays smoking-hot women taking care of themselves without relying on the strength of men.
That ideal preceded feminism. Strong, capable, independent women never needed a feminist movement to give them permission to be those things. Have you ever seen the film Out of Africa? Women like Karen Blixen were real - they could farm, ride, hunt and fend of dangerous beasts (in her case with just a whip). Think of the many thousands of pioneer women who had to step up to the raw challenges of a tough life - often becoming widows in the process.

I wouldn't advise being so anti leftist-feminism to the point where you can't see independence and toughness in women as a virtue.
Baby, bathwater and all that.

I loved it!

Sandi's picture

They did a terrific job and the cast were magnificent. Hank Rearden was indeed a hunk but he went floppy on me when he sacrificed his business interests for Dagny.
I thought it was clever that they missed out the bit where Galt worked at Taggart because it would have given the game away for readers and it has just made the anticipation of seeing Galt in the Gulch, so much more exciting. Part III can't come quick enough for me.

interesting

Doug Bandler's picture

Interesting examples and they are good to know. I was thinking more along the lines of women on the front lines of combat. But you are right that women can think quickly and outwit stupid men. But what Hollywierd is putting in its movies is the continuous depiction of women as equally as strong and ferocious as men. Women are not natural warriors but you would never know that. Plus according to Hollywierd, it is always natural for women to be in situations where she is in command of other men or tasked with saving lives and nations. This to me is unnatural and an attack on masculinity which is an attack on reality. It really pisses me off. I hate female action heroes.

Back to your examples though, all women should be taught how to handle potential rape scenarios. But my guess is that the Left would not want this. Why? Because it would mean that women ARE IN FACT under a perpetual death and rape threat from men, which is the case. Acknowledging that fact would mean that women CAN'T have everything they want and do everything they want free from consequence.

The Left is dedicated to whim worship, what some Conservatives falsely label individualism. To a Leftist whatever desire you have must be provided by reality. Acknowledging that women can't go to every part of town or talk with every black or non-white they meet or go to every country (especially non-white countries) would be offensive to a Leftist. It would interfere with their desires and their Gnostic view of the world. I know for a fact that Leftists would rather see women raped in bulk than teach women that blacks or Muslims represent a potential rape threat that is higher than a white male.

Women are not men. But to the Left, biologic differences b/w the genders are an inconvenient truth that can be ignored for the purposes of political and cultural conquest.

Panic!!!!!

Rosie's picture

Women's first reaction will be to panic. It takes significant training to overcome that. Most women will never achieve that state and they would have to sacrifice a chunk of their femininity to do so anyway.

I don't agree at all with you on this, Doug.

One of my ancient, female philosophy lecturers at LSE told us that when she went to NY, on her way back from the theatre, she was assailed by a big burly black man who was physically threatening and went for her bag. Her reaction was to calmly ask him if he would like to join her for a meal at her hotel!!!! He did!!! They became friends. Sounds like calm and very feminine behaviour, to me.

When one of my stunningly good-looking school friends was hitch-hiking aged 17, her driver turned off the road and headed down a dirt track towards the river. He started getting all sweaty and aroused and she knew he was about to rape her - possibly kill her. So she calmly asked him why he had driven off the road and that she hoped he wasn't intending to do anything bad because she really liked him and had hoped that they would see one another again. He was so surprised to hear that he turned the car round and they continued on their way chatting like dear friends. Naturally enough she got him to drop her off at a wrong address and then gave him a false telephone number. But very calm behaviour. Sounds like calm and the height of feminine guile, to me.

And when I was out at sea on a yacht with my (later to be) husband and we got in to a terrible storm it was *I* who stayed calm and took charge and *he* who got in to a tizz wazz! He told me later that this taught him I was someone who could be relied upon to be "calm in a crisis". (My feminine behaviour, perhaps, was not to mention his fear in that crisis to others!)

I think that, generally speaking, most women are very strong and calm in a crisis. Just maybe not so much on the little things like a moth fluttering about one's face when trying to go to sleep or finding a dead bird on the doorstep! Eye UGGGHHH!!!! PANIC!!!

yes, but...

Doug Bandler's picture

Women trained in martial arts can use a the force of a man's own strength to bring him down, if she knows what she is doing.

Agreed. But if she is going up against an equally trained man, which is what she would do in a military scenario, her training is basically useless (unless she gets lucky). My basic point though is that the "women who kick butt" meme that so dominates Hollywierd (ie Josh Wheedon that Objectivists love so much - Buffy and River) is actually dangerous for women. About 3/4 of Hollywierd's action movies have "warrior women" in it. Its practically a necessity to show that strong, independent women who holds her own with a man. This subconsciously telegraphs to women that they don't need to fear certain situations that they find themselves in with men (especially non-white men). This gets women raped and killed. The news is riddled with stories of women putting themselves in insanely dangerous positions only to be raped or killed eventually. Which is why I am somewhat shocked that Rand liked 'Charlies Angels' - the start of this ridiculous meme.

The most essential thing for a woman in this circumstance is to suppress her natural tendency to go nuclear emotionally (panic). For a woman that is the hardest thing.

And this is why. Women's first reaction will be to panic. It takes significant training to overcome that. Most women will never achieve that state and they would have to sacrifice a chunk of their femininity to do so anyway. Basically I see the female action hero as part of the Left's war on femininity. I am not saying women can't be emotionally or morally strong. They can be. But please don't show a 100 pound waif kicking the crap out of 6'4" men who weigh 240 lbs; i.e. what Angelina Jolie does in 'Salt' every 2 minutes.

I think I mentioned this before but James Cameron's 'Aliens' (1986) was an example of the right way to handle a female action hero. The movie does have feminist elements to it but Ripley is portrayed as morally strong and virtuous (and a valuer). She is not a warrior waif, and Sigourney Weaver was painfully thin in that movie. She is constantly shown as vulnerable. She just is determined and she never betrays her values. I have no problem with that and I still love that movie to this day despite its overt Marxism - and Cameron was a Marxist from the start. Give me 100 Ripleys instead of all the Salts and Charlie's Angels and Buffys and all the rest.

As usual with me, I hate, hate, hate everything influenced by the Left. God, I must sound like a maniac.

Oh yes!

Olivia's picture

'The Crimson Tide' with a younger Denzel Washington was one and it was awesome; one of my favorite movies.

Great movie! I'll see Denzel in anything, I simply love him. Sexiest black brother on two legs.

Women don't kick butt.

In general, they certainly don't.
But a woman who knows how to fight versus a man much larger than her who does not, can win. Women trained in martial arts can use a the force of a man's own strength to bring him down, if she knows what she is doing. The most essential thing for a woman in this circumstance is to suppress her natural tendency to go nuclear emotionally (panic). For a woman that is the hardest thing.

More Agreement

Doug Bandler's picture

I absolutely agree about Master & Commander. Many Conservatives have commented that the screenplay must have been written by Edmund Burke himself because it had no Leftist elements to it and a ton of Conservative themes.

I like that there are almost no women in the entire film, yet it's romantic in a masculine way.

This is a statement no modern liberal could ever make especially a feminist. Its also a statement that I think many Objectivists couldn't make. I could never see the "phd with a podcast" making it. There are very few movies made with all male casts. 'The Crimson Tide' with a younger Denzel Washington was one and it was awesome; one of my favorite movies. The depiction of masculinity as a good in itself without the need to inject women is something that the feminist/liberal mind could never conceive of or ever support.

I find myself wishing for movies that don't have women in them and I have come to HATE the action movies that do have women in them. Not because I hate women, but because I hate egalitarianism and feminism and their warped hatred of men and masculinity. I can't even watch any of the modern super hero movies. There's a "woman kicking but" in every one of them. Women don't kick butt. They can't (as a rule, there are always exceptions). Female strength is manifested in other ways not through physical strength or leadership. Women are not natural leaders of men and armies.

I know I sound like a Conservative but to me this is all the natural expression of biology. Human nature isn't infinitely malleable. I know that Conservatives like that expression but its true. I just want to see art in which men are men (strong) and women are women (feminine). That must make me a misogynist.

See...

Olivia's picture

Crowe is another handsome manly man. He moved me in Gladiator. One of the few movies to portray a hero with a soul.

He is at his very best as Lucky Jack in Master & Commander. Competently commanding a world of men. Strong, decisive, tough, kind, committed and spends his evenings in candle-light playing violin with his male friend, who is so much the opposite of himself in nature. A deep respect lies between them and challenges them both in lots of life and death situations.. . and all to the music of Thomas Tellus by Vaughan Williams. Talk about soul. Smiling

I like that there are almost no women in the entire film, yet it's romantic in a masculine way.

Of course, I should've been Lucky Jack's cabin wench on the HMS Surprise, kept captive in his quarters!

Yes and Yes Miss Olivia

Doug Bandler's picture

He is super masculine

Yes, he is. That is the type of man that women should swoon for. Not the pretty boy dandys.

I prefer Russell Crowe

A younger Russell Crowe before he got carb addicted and the fat face syndrome. But yes, Crowe is another handsome manly man. He moved me in Gladiator. One of the few movies to portray a hero with a soul.

Haha...

Olivia's picture

oh Doug - we all know the original Rearden, Grant Bowler, from a long standing NZ series here called Outrageous Fortune - about a bogan, petty-crime family. He is super masculine in that, and his name is Wolf. Big heart throb over here. Smiling Personally though, I prefer Russell Crowe.

My mistake

Doug Bandler's picture

I didn't realize that they switched actors. My bad.

Jason Beghe

gregster's picture

The Reardon actor in this one is an ex-scientologist famous for denouncing scientology. Appropriate for him to turn up in this pro-reason film.

Reardon

Doug Bandler's picture

That actor playing Hank Reardon has a wonderfully masculine presence and voice. Phooooarrr.

I agree. And of course he's not American but a New Zealander. I first saw him on an episode of 'Lost'. Its fascinating that most of Hollywood's leading men are not from America. Well, that is when those men are strong leading men.

Russel Crowe
Hugh Jackman
Jason Strathom
All the James Bonds
The New Thor

There are a few exceptions but not many. The only American actors that are allowed to be masculine are blacks. This is another example of Airhead America at work. Its an observation that is completely beyond most dingbat Mainstream Objectivists who do not understand the Left and its number one sub-ideology: feminism.

Good scene!

Olivia's picture

That actor playing Hank Reardon has a wonderfully masculine presence and voice. Phooooarrr. Sticking out tongue

Linz

seddon's picture

Glad you enjoyed it. Even though I like Part I better, I just love the thought of having ATLAS in my home on DVD.
I second your "Bring on Part III."

Fred

Great to hear

gregster's picture

My Part One is out on loan to start off some newbies.. I'll order Part Two. Especially after seeing this clip of Rearden's trial. (Despite David Kelley's repeated minor stumblings.) This was very moving.

Wonderful!

Lindsay Perigo's picture

Just watched it. Magnificent. "Lord of the Rings for adults," as someone said. About time there was something for adults. I am aghast at the squalid silence of pseudo-Objectivists who've not had a word to say in its favour. Damn these treasonists to hell - or at minimum, a blistering, agonising train-wreck. They deserve it. And just watch them redouble their squalid silence now.

I'm glad the producers took my advice Eye and stopped filming everything in the dark and making chunks of dialogue fashionably inaudible. Overall this was much more polished than Pt 1, though I still love the latter's raw passion.

I missed the old actors but thought the new ones did splendidly. Loved Dagny's granite, and how it shattered at the end. Francisco's money speech shoved it right up the filth where they deserved it.

I'm not big on flashy effects, but the plane chase was amazing.

Utterly riveting from beginning to end. Bring on Pt 3!

Mine has arrived ...

Lindsay Perigo's picture

I won't watch it tonight. Sandi, you go first. Eye

Here is the link

Sandi's picture

Going to watch it tonight (with salad, scallops and syrah).

http://store.atlasshruggedmovi...

Where

Shane Pleasance's picture

did you purchase it from?

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