The Religion Question

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Submitted by atlascott on Fri, 2006-06-23 12:38

Julian contributed a wonderful C.S. Lewis quote  here:

Linz responded that it is a "[s]hame Lewis became a barking mad Christian."

And that got me thinking...

So does the fact that a person holds some religious belief mean that all of their contributions and thoughts are suspect?

Or can we compartmentalize the religiosity, put it aside, and enjoy the individual and his accomplishments without being immediately suspiciousof the underpinning of his ideas and the validity of his reasoning?

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Good comments — by 0 on Wed, 2007-05-02 19:45
Is a religious founding — by User hidden on Wed, 2007-05-02 18:45
Eh, I think you gotta judge person by person... — by atlascott on Wed, 2007-05-02 03:06

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Ross picked a peck of pickled peppers . . .

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Submitted by User hidden on Fri, 2006-06-23 11:55

Here is your pepper thread, Ross. I wasn't sure whether to put it here or in SOLO thrust after your Hungarian Horntail comment. (I know that wasn't the name but I can't remember it and naming a hot pepper atter a pretty cool dragon seems liike a good idea.)

Since I just moved into an apartment with only a small, totally shady porch, I have my tiniest garden ever, in containers, on a friend's back porch. I am growing red, purple, and orange bell peppers, brandywine tomatoes, basil, thyme, cilantro, and dill. I got my first purple pepper yesterday.

Recent Comments:
Two Options — by Marnee on Sat, 2006-06-24 02:58
What's soft & velvety? The — by Ross Elliot on Sat, 2006-06-24 02:08
Wow, Kelly, you're starting — by Ross Elliot on Sat, 2006-06-24 01:03

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Malice in masquerade.

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Submitted by Victor Pross on Fri, 2006-06-23 03:15

Rober Campbell writes: Ultimately, Mr. Perigo sets the tone on this board. He can make into something besides a pig-rasslin' venue, if he wants to.

He speaks only of 'pig-rasslin'...what about malice? What can be done about that?

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— by Victor Pross on Fri, 2006-06-23 03:20

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Quote: President George W. Bush on the 1956 Hungarian Uprising and its Lessons for Today

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Submitted by MJ on Fri, 2006-06-23 01:46

George Bush as quoted in the New York Times.

"The sacrifice of the Hungarian people inspires all who love liberty, America honors your courage. We've learned from your example, and we resolve that when people stand up for their freedom, America will stand with them."

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Submitted by Jason Quintana on Fri, 2006-06-23 01:21

Recently there was an obvious instance of plagiarism here on SOLO. Since we didn't have a specific policy in place regarding plagiarism we gave the user a stern warning as per our general guidelines and have allowed him to continue posting following a public apology. This apology is accepted by the SOLO staff. In this particular case it may have been a mistake. 

This will not be our policy moving forward. Anyone who the SOLO staff believes is guilty of plagiarism on the SOLO forums will be placed on moderation permanently. Property rights and honesty are critical elements of the Objectivist philosophy and acts of plagiarism run contrary to both.  I want to make it clear that plagiarism will not be tolerated here on SOLO.

- Jason


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I thought Victor was OK — by Rex Wilkinson on Sun, 2006-07-02 04:10
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James M. Buchanan: Constitutional and Post-Constitutional Political Economy

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Submitted by younkins on Fri, 2006-06-23 00:41

In 1986, James M. Buchanan was awarded the Nobel Prize for economics for his efforts to study the public sector within the same microeconomic analytical framework that is used to study private economy. Buchanan applies economics to understanding how individuals interact in the public square to formulate collective decisions. His Public Choice research program offers a foundation for understanding and analyzing the behavior of persons in public choosing whether they be voters, politicians, bureaucrats, diplomats, or other public servants. Buchanan’s contributions to this field can be found primarily in his The Calculus of Consent (1962) with Gordon Tullock, The Limits of Liberty (1975), and The Reason of Rules (1985) with Geoffrey Brennan.

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Quote: C.S. Lewis

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Submitted by JulianP on Thu, 2006-06-22 23:50

"What I want to fix your attention on is the vast overall movement towards the discrediting, and finally the elimination, of every kind of human excellence -- moral, cultural, social or intellectual. And is it not pretty to notice how 'democracy' (in the incantatory sense) is now doing for us the work that was once done by the most ancient dictatorships, and by the same methods? The basic proposal of the new education is to be that dunces and idlers must not be made to feel inferior to intelligent and industrious pupils. That would be 'undemocratic.' Children who are fit to proceed may be artifically kept back, because the others would get a trauma by being left behind. The bright pupil thus remains democratically fettered to his own age group throughout his school career, and a boy who would be capable of tackling Aeschylus or Dante sits listening to his coeval's attempts to spell out A CAT SAT ON A MAT. We may reasonably hope for the virtual abolition of education when 'I'm as good as you' has fully had its way. All incentives to learn and all penalties for not learning will vanish. The few who might want to learn will be prevented; who are they to overtop their fellows? And anyway, the teachers -- or should I say nurses? -- will be far too busy reassuring the dunces and patting them on the back to waste any time on real teaching. We shall no longer have to plan and toil to spread imperturbable conceit and incurable ignorance among men."

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"I don't want to have my — by Fred Weiss on Sun, 2006-06-25 06:03
I love it! That's a — by JulianP on Sun, 2006-06-25 05:52
Yes, excellent quotation, — by Derek McGovern on Fri, 2006-06-23 23:22

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Envy of success exposed?

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Submitted by JulianP on Thu, 2006-06-22 20:38

From Reason magazine:

Burn the Rich

An old Russian joke tells the story of a peasant with one cow who hates his neighbor because he has two. A sorcerer offers to grant the envious farmer a single wish. "Kill one of my neighbor's cows!" he demands.

Research by two British economists, Daniel Zizzo of Oxford University and Andrew Oswald of Warwick University, suggests there is a good bit of truth behind that joke. In a recent study, Zizzo and Oswald ask, "Are People Willing to Pay to Reduce Others’ Incomes?" "The short answer to this question is: yes," they report. "Our subjects gave up large amounts of their cash to hurt others in the laboratory."

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Related The Fountainhead — by Marnee on Fri, 2006-06-23 22:53
Was that an aboriginal cow? — by Rex Wilkinson on Fri, 2006-06-23 21:26

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Check elastic before jumping

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Submitted by Marcus on Thu, 2006-06-22 12:51

Here is a very short fiction story from the latest issue of nature. Projecting dissatisfaction with current statist trends into the future. For those that don't know NHS = "National Health Service" and HSE = "Health and Safety Executive". Enjoy.

Nature 441, 1026 (22 June 2006)

Check elastic before jumping
Neal Asherl

Standing before the museum display case, I listened to the cracking of stun rifles outside as CCM — Combined Corporate Military — engaged with the few government troops who could be bothered to fight.

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Nice. Reminiscent of Robert — by Ross Elliot on Thu, 2006-06-22 23:56
OK — by Marcus on Thu, 2006-06-22 13:15

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Shilling for Gilded Coins

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Submitted by Prima Donna on Thu, 2006-06-22 00:44

Well, after a squillion hours of work, and months of hair ripping-outing and what not, the Gilded Fork Online Boutique is at last open for business.

We've put together quite a decadent collection of caviar, truffles, foie gras, fine vinegars, and oodles of other treats for you to savor. My particular favorite is the set of Tahitian vanilla beans, but I'm also a fiend for the truffle oil. Smiling

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God and quality control — by Craig Ceely on Sun, 2006-06-25 01:00
Speaking of God... — by Prima Donna on Sun, 2006-06-25 00:40
Thank God... — by Boaz the Boor on Sun, 2006-06-25 00:27

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More cartoons: "Going Places", "What Makes Us Tick"

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Submitted by JulianP on Wed, 2006-06-21 23:07

Going Places:

"Cold War cartoon defending the profit motive against anti-capitalist critics." Cartoon in public domain and available at 1948.

What Makes Us Tick:

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What is an ATHEIST ?

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Submitted by Rex Wilkinson on Wed, 2006-06-21 15:07

An atheist is someone who believes there is no god.To realy accept there is no god allso means there is no devil,heaven,life after death,ghosts,spirits,reincarnation or magic,witch craft,voodoo etc.If you imagine any of these to be real YOU ARE NOT AN ATHEIST,you are a confused agnostic as are all agnostics,too confused to make a decision either way.I don't know how any agnostic can call themselve

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Spaced out man — by Rex Wilkinson on Sun, 2006-07-16 18:35
Rex — by Greg Mullen on Fri, 2006-07-14 18:41
Trust in self — by Rex Wilkinson on Fri, 2006-07-14 04:40

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Quote: The Emperor's New Art

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Submitted by JulianP on Wed, 2006-06-21 01:58

Quoted from Foreign Dispatches:'s true enough that not everything requiring virtuosity is "great" art, but it's also true that art without skill is an oxymoron, and I dismiss out of hand the ridiculous and often-made assertion that artistic merit is an entirely subjective matter which can be divorced from facts about the human mind. Most of what is called "art" today is anything but, mere garbage palmed off on the gullible and easily intimidated by scam artists whose only gift is for baldly making outrageous claims on their own behalf, and the only reason they're able to get away with it on such a large scale is because so many people are afraid of being labelled "philistines" by snooty urban pseudo-intellectuals and art-school wankers who in the main can't draw well enough to save their very lives.

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GoodArt — by Marnee on Fri, 2006-07-14 18:48
Julian — by Lanza Morio on Wed, 2006-06-21 09:28

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Animated cartoon: "Make Mine Freedom"

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Submitted by JulianP on Wed, 2006-06-21 01:29

From description:
"This Cold War-era cartoon uses humor to tout the dangers of Communism and the benefits of capitalism." 1948. Cartoon in Public Domain and available to download at Internet Archive.


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Well worth a look — by Lanza Morio on Thu, 2006-06-22 08:23
Urgent!! — by Lindsay Perigo on Wed, 2006-06-21 22:53
Nice find. — by Lanza Morio on Wed, 2006-06-21 09:41

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It's A Wonderful Life - Interesting to watch when it's not Christmas-time.

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Submitted by Lanza Morio on Tue, 2006-06-20 23:07

I watched this movie for the third time last night. The conflicts and resolutions are worked out brilliantly by director Frank Capra. Mary Hatch (Donna Reed) is a total babe. Last Christmas I watched it and was a little conflicted about it all. This time I loved every minute of the film and after thinking about it for half an hour I began to feel that I'd been tricked.

There seems to be something wonderful about the movie but I'm conflicted as hell about it. On the one hand the theme is "Be satisfied and even happy with what you have," and that's a good thing. On the other hand that same theme, "Be satisfied with what you have," pisses me off because it suggests that one ought to resign himself to a lesser existence.

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Great post, Marnee. It — by Lanza Morio on Tue, 2006-06-27 07:40
The problem is that the film — by Marnee on Tue, 2006-06-27 00:24
It is a beautiful, touching film... — by atlascott on Sat, 2006-06-24 00:57

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Movie: Donnie Darko--what the hell?

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Submitted by Victor Pross on Tue, 2006-06-20 00:20
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Drew Barrymore from the cot... — by Rick Giles on Thu, 2006-06-22 00:56
Ironically — by Landon Erp on Thu, 2006-06-22 00:47
Rick, Rick, Rick... — by Jameson on Wed, 2006-06-21 00:53

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SOLOLOGO blue banner

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Submitted by Jameson on Mon, 2006-06-19 22:35
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A pepper-loving spankee? — by Ross Elliot on Sun, 2006-06-25 00:41
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No More Knock and Announce!

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Submitted by atlascott on Mon, 2006-06-19 20:49

The Supreme Court of the US has made a pretty important refinement to the 4th Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure.  The 4th Amendment provides:

Amendment IV

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I hope I didn't get your hopes up too much, Robert!! — by Michael Moeller on Tue, 2006-06-27 04:50

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The Most Dangerous City in America

Submitted by wngreen on Mon, 2006-06-19 09:33

The phone rang at 4 am this morning. Not my cell phone surprisingly enough, but my house phone that only my immediate family has the number for. It was the Baltimore City police. Some punk had smashed my back window and took my cell phone and mp3 player from my car sometime after I parked it at 10pm about a block from my house. Tips from the neighborhood led to the police stoping a shady character peering into car windows on my block. An hour and a half later I have my property back (minus the non-smashed window) and the perp is taking a short ride to jail. Thank you Baltimore City Police!

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Relative Risk — by Ashley on Mon, 2006-06-19 20:12

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We Went To The Moon

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Submitted by Ross Elliot on Mon, 2006-06-19 05:43

[reprised from the SOLOHQ archive in response to the current public fascination with 9/11 conspiracy theories]

There's a vicious little conspiracy theory about that maintains that Man never set foot on the moon. That it was a hoax. A lie.

It goes something like this:

The Cold War was in full swing. President Kennedy had committed the United States to a moon landing as a counter to the early Soviet space successes. However, NASA discovered that it was an impossible task. So they decided to fake it; to save face for America and to show superiority over the Soviets. And, with the full knowledge of thousands of officials, scientists, engineers and of course, the astronauts themselves, they filmed the moon landings on a massive lunar movie set. Then they kept it a secret for over 30 years.

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Technology has certainly — by Erik Christensen on Sat, 2007-07-21 18:33
Good on you Lindsay — by Rex Wilkinson on Fri, 2006-06-23 10:20
Linz — by MJ on Wed, 2006-06-21 15:17

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Mid-Michigan Objectivists-June

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Submitted by Tenyamc on Mon, 2006-06-19 04:16

The Death some, a CAPITAL idea, to others, it's's something that has divided libertarians since the word was created. Hopefully this topic will divide our group next Tuesday, June 20th at the home of Jack McHugh. Social Hour (just to KILL time) will begin at 6, and the meeting will start around 7:15. Please bring a LAST MEAL, oops I mean snacks and/or drinks if possible, and lets EXECUTE some fine philosophical discussion. At the heart of this discussion will be the concept of justice vs. the divinity of human life, even that of a convicted murderer. If you have some valuable reading material or something to share that would add greatly, bring it! Hope to see you there!

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Cool — by Tenyamc on Sat, 2006-07-15 16:35
a question — by Landon Erp on Thu, 2006-07-13 22:35
I've now forgotten how many — by Tenyamc on Mon, 2006-07-10 05:23

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Al Gore

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Submitted by Victor Pross on Mon, 2006-06-19 01:04
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LWH — by Michael Allen Yarbrough on Mon, 2006-06-26 01:46
Gore poisons the well — by LWHALL on Sat, 2006-06-24 14:27
Saw it today — by Michael Allen Yarbrough on Sat, 2006-06-24 07:00

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Ayn Rand and the New Heroism: Superman versus The Incredibles

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Submitted by JoeM on Sun, 2006-06-18 22:59

(This essay is based on "The Incredible Revolution" orignally published at Reposted in consideration of the new movie SUPERMAN RETURNS.)

Although creator Brad Bird denies any direct influence, THE INCREDIBLES is an evolutionary step towards an Objectivist view of superheroes, but there is a vestigial tale of a mixed premise of altruism, and that altruism is inherent in the classical idea of heroism itself. The hero's journey often requires a sacrifice, and this sacrifice is usually interpreted as a renunciation of the ego to engage with something larger than themselves, i.e. God, the greater good, the collective unconscious.

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Dont feed the trolls — by Bill Visconti on Sun, 2006-12-10 01:53
Good thing Rand's emphasis — by Melodrone on Sun, 2006-12-10 01:46
I hope not — by Marcus on Wed, 2006-06-21 22:27

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Mutualism: A Philosophy for Thieves

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Submitted by George Reisman on Sun, 2006-06-18 21:36

The collapse of socialism-communism has not only given rise to the remarkable growth of environmentalism, as a replacement outlet for hostility to capitalism, but also to some growth, vastly less considerable of course, in the remnants of the old anarchist movement, which now sometimes calls itself “libertarian” or “left-libertarian.” A leading strand of this remnant goes under the name “Mutualism.” And its philosophy has recently been set forth in a book by one Kevin Carson, called Studies in Mutualist Political Economy (Fayettville, Arkansas: Self-published, 2004), which I reviewed in the current issue of The Journal of Libertarian Studies. The opening portion of my review appears in my blog posting of June 14 on this site.

The purpose of this posting is to expand on the following paragraph of that portion of my review:

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A self published book — by seymourblogger on Sun, 2012-01-15 04:07
Word is misused — by F L Light on Fri, 2012-01-13 05:32
Mutualism would work — by Morten on Tue, 2012-01-10 10:10

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Conspiracy Theories

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Submitted by Landon Erp on Sun, 2006-06-18 18:51

I brought up conspiracy theories on another thread. Victor mentioned humorously how someone at a Q&A with Rand thought Objectivists were just pawns in the Illuminatti conspiracy and it made me think of the following.

Reminds me of a conversation I was having at work a couple days ago. I was talking to a guy who buys into "Bush planned 9/11," "Freemasons control everything" and of course "the illuminati."

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Rex: what a nice short — by Matt on Fri, 2006-06-30 02:54
I aggree with Claudia — by Rex Wilkinson on Wed, 2006-06-28 21:58
Funny thing about those — by Victor Pross on Thu, 2006-06-22 04:58

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Submitted by Richard Andreassen on Sun, 2006-06-18 18:40

Just signed up here so I figured I'd say hello Smiling

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Force people to think

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Submitted by Rex Wilkinson on Sun, 2006-06-18 18:19

Lets just clear this up now,I don't want the government to force people to believe atheism.I want the government to stop forcing religion on us.Surely you can all see that we live in a society that has religion on every station every corner and every town in NZ.We are constantly being brainwashed by government funded religion.I don' like having religion forced on me.I would much rather sit back an

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Alternate Logo

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Submitted by Adam Buker on Sun, 2006-06-18 15:30
Alternate Logo

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And on days like this... — by Prima Donna on Tue, 2006-06-20 05:15
Manners maketh the man — by Jameson on Tue, 2006-06-20 04:32
Perfect. — by Prima Donna on Tue, 2006-06-20 02:47

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What are your opinions on legal aid?

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Submitted by Marcus on Sun, 2006-06-18 14:49

Animal rights militants are paid legal aid!

What are your opinions on legal aid?

I'm against it. However, someone always makes the following point.

What about the individual or small businessman who cannot afford to sue a large company?

I think they should have insurance, to reconcile a failure to be able to seek justice with the right to be free from force or fraud?

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Right on! — by JoeM on Sat, 2007-09-01 00:20
No Legal Aid doesn't mean no — by Michael E on Fri, 2007-08-31 08:31
I — by Elijah Lineberry on Fri, 2007-08-31 03:38

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Help High School Teachers Teach Ayn Rand's Fiction

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Submitted by DianaHsieh on Sun, 2006-06-18 13:58

A few years ago, the Ayn Rand Institute surveyed high school teachers and discovered that the major reason many don't teach Ayn Rand's fiction in their English classes is the simple lack of books. The bureaucracy makes it difficult to obtain them from the school, and they are expensive to buy out-of-pocket. So ARI started its "Free Books for Teachers" program to remedy that problem.

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FINE. FINE! — by Michael Allen Yarbrough on Wed, 2006-06-28 07:13
Two-For-One Matching — by DianaHsieh on Tue, 2006-06-27 11:17
Question — by Michael Allen Yarbrough on Mon, 2006-06-19 21:26

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