It's concrete, Jim, but not as we know it.

Peter Cresswell's picture
Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Thu, 2006-04-06 02:38

Progress is unpredictable. Great ideas and advances in one field can impact unpredictably in others. And some of the best ideas are often obvious once they're done. Exhibit A: light-transmitting concrete.

Just add optical glass glass-fibres to concrete and, hey presto, light-transmitting concrete. I can't wait to use it. Smiling

Recent Comments:
the Jefferson memorial — by mvardoulis on Tue, 2007-07-03 01:02
Credits and Correction — by Stephen Boydstun on Sun, 2007-07-01 17:11
More Light — by Stephen Boydstun on Sun, 2007-07-01 13:03

( categories: )

One more nail in the ID "theory" coffin.

Jody Gomez's picture
Submitted by Jody Gomez on Thu, 2006-04-06 02:20

Though as we know, ID is a modern euphemism designed to make creationism more stealth-like, so I'm not sure if nailing the coffin shut will ever silence this living-dead creature.

transitional life forms

The Bigger the Better?

JulianP's picture
Submitted by JulianP on Wed, 2006-04-05 23:23

No, this is not for SOLO Thrust... Smiling It's an interesting study recently published by Swiss researchers:

The Bigger the Better? Evidence of the Effect of Government Size on Life Satisfaction around the World

This paper empirically analyzes the question whether government involvement in the economy is conducive or detrimental to life satisfaction in a cross-section of 74 countries. This provides a test of a longstanding dispute between standard neoclassical economic theory, which predicts that government plays an unambiguously positive role for individuals' quality of life, and public choice theory, that was developed to understand why governments often choose excessive involvement and regulation, thereby harming voters' quality of life. Our results show that life satisfaction decreases with higher government spending. This negative impact of the government is stronger in countries with a leftwing median voter. It is alleviated by government effectiveness - but only in countries where the state sector is already small.

Recent Comments:
If this is true, then look — by Pete L on Wed, 2006-04-05 23:59

Staff Only -- The chat software

Jason Quintana's picture
Submitted by Jason Quintana on Wed, 2006-04-05 22:01

I was on just and I noticed they have their own chatroom. I couldn't test all of the functionality, but the software seems much better then what we are using now. I'm not sure how easy it would be to integrate this into SOLO but this is the kind of thing we should look into using.

Recent Comments:
I've just realised that this — by Duncan Bayne on Wed, 2006-04-19 04:29
Yup. I concur with Ross. — by JulianP on Thu, 2006-04-06 02:42
Jason, it does look better, — by Ross Elliot on Thu, 2006-04-06 02:12

( categories: )

Fighting Terrorism and Intimidation

PhilipC's picture
Submitted by PhilipC on Wed, 2006-04-05 21:05

There is disagreement on this in Objectivist circles on everything from the War in Iraq to how to deal with the Danish cartoons issue and the threat of intimidation to whether we should nuke Teheran and more broadly whether we are fighting terrorism properly. It's not a set of debates primarily over theory or over Objectivism, but over practice, application, concretes. Over everything from the nature of Islam to when and how to apply force in countering threats and aggression.

I'm going to start by pulling over a post I just made regarding Borders' bookstore withdrawing a magazine carrying the cartoons from its shelves. [This was over on the 'Announcement' thread, where it started with a post by Diana Hsieh. I'm moving it because it's not the real topic of that thread, the reasons someone left an Objectivist organization or the organization itself.] That topic will follow immediately, but anything on how to fight terrorism, whether in an outright war, what to do about intimidation, issues of civil liberties such as the Patriot Act would fit on this thread.

Recent Comments:
Proper 'tactics'-vs-Evaluations of tacticians — by Rowlf on Thu, 2006-04-06 02:29
Pulling Magazines off the Shelves; Giving In to Intimidation — by PhilipC on Wed, 2006-04-05 21:16

( categories: )

Synaesthetics: Tasty Tunes

JoeM's picture
Submitted by JoeM on Wed, 2006-04-05 17:31

"Like a little music with your meal, Tuco?
Yes, very good for the digestion."

-The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

In Celebration of Jennifer Iannolo's podcasts appearing on iTunes (yeah!), and her collaborations with Adam Buker (New York Cheesecake):

What kind of music do you recommend with a fine meal? Is there a preferred genre of music for certain varieties? Do you find that music does, indeed, aid in the digestion? Do you tip the violing player at the table to play or go away?

(If you have the white trash pedigree like me, you've probably come to associate "Sweet Home Alabama" with backyard barbeques!)

Recent Comments:
Right on! — by Prima Donna on Thu, 2006-04-06 03:37
Oh, lots of Creedence for — by Ross Elliot on Thu, 2006-04-06 02:51
And I have to add — by Peter Cresswell on Thu, 2006-04-06 01:49

( categories: )

Rhythm Versus Melody continued: Extensional versus. intensional

JoeM's picture
Submitted by JoeM on Wed, 2006-04-05 17:16

Rhythm Versus Melody continued: Extensional versus. Intensional
By Joseph C. Maurone

( categories: )

Getting no (musical) satisfaction?

Peter Cresswell's picture
Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Wed, 2006-04-05 01:02

Reading a puff-piece the other day about the Rolling Stones' impending world tour, a piece of research was quoted that suggested our 'cultural choices' (or some such phrase) are all made between the ages of fifteen to thirty, following which we all apparently seek to recapture and reprise the thrill first felt in the first flush of adulthood.

This, said the journalist about the research, explains such phenomena as the constant repackaging and re-selling of CDs and albums of arthritic rockers, the $umpteen squillion Jimi Hendrix Rock'n'Roll Museum in Seattle (paid for with Paul Allen's Microsoft winnings), and the bland dreck played on expensive sound equipment emanating from the car windows of too many highly-paid middle-aged middle executives - 'life in the fast lane' - 'I can't get no satisfaction' - 'all in all we're just another lame-brain in the wall' - bleecch.

Recent Comments:
James V:I "hear" sincerity, — by Lanza Morio on Wed, 2006-04-12 07:45
Sincerity — by James S. Valliant on Sat, 2006-04-08 13:40
Hey James... — by Lanza Morio on Sat, 2006-04-08 05:02

Why Gareth Morgan is wrong to give his money away

Peter Cresswell's picture
Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Wed, 2006-04-05 00:59

Gareth Morgan is wrong to give his money away. Here's why.

There are some people who are so productive they almost can't help creating wealth. These aren't just wealth creators, they're walking machines of production, able to turn a dollar into ten, into a hundred, into a thousand, into seven hundred million... purely on the basis of a good idea, a lot of hard work, and an understanding of the way the world works.

Gareth's son Sam Morgan is such a man.

Recent Comments:
Yikes! — by Rick Giles on Wed, 2006-04-05 12:17
As was said elsewhere:Have — by Capitalist on Wed, 2006-04-05 07:14
Wrong? — by Rick Giles on Wed, 2006-04-05 03:48

Suppressing information. A challenge to free speech?

Peter Cresswell's picture
Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Wed, 2006-04-05 00:57

The use of suppression orders in recent New Zealand trials has come in for much debate, not least in two trials involving and alleging gang rape, the latest being the suppression orders from the Louise Nicholas/Clint Rickards (et al) trials just finished, and currently being informally challenged. A commenter here asked for my opinion on the various breaches of the suppression order in the recent rape trial: "PC," said Yalnikim, "I'm looking forward to your thoughts on "free speech versus information suppression." So here they are.

NZ's water problems cured by property rights?

Peter Cresswell's picture
Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Wed, 2006-04-05 00:55

Water has become an issue here in Godzone - dirty lakes in Rotorua; falling lake levels in South Island hydro lakes; rising demand for limited river water for agricultural irrigation.

All of these problems have been caused either largely or in part by a lack of sufficiently clear property rights in water -- a Tragedy of the Commons problem, and one recognised even by the Clark Government who has spent the last three years putting together a scheme for tradeable water rights, and by Rotorua Maori who are just beginning to talk about property rights as a means of protecting water quality in local lakes.

The Great Symphonies -- Schubert, Schumann and Brahms

Jason Quintana's picture
Submitted by Jason Quintana on Tue, 2006-04-04 23:48

This week I am giving suggestions for recordings of the great symphonies that were created by Beethoven's German successors Franz Schubert, Robert Schumann and Johannes Brahms. While every great 19th century composer can probably claim a Beethoven influence, it is most obvious in the music of these three men. And, like Beethoven the three were not single genre composers in the way that some of the other great 19th century composers were.

Since I only have one recording of each of Schubert's earlier symphonies I will stick to recordings of his 8th and 9th here. Others might argue that the earlier works deserve to be included in a list like this and that is probably true but at the moment I don't have a well formed opinion.

Recent Comments:
Watch those double — by JoeM on Fri, 2006-04-07 05:00
Try try again — by Rick Giles on Fri, 2006-04-07 04:54
Tune in Next Week — by Jason Quintana on Wed, 2006-04-05 16:37

( categories: )

On Prayer and Science

jtgagnon's picture
Submitted by jtgagnon on Tue, 2006-04-04 18:30

Recently a study was done exploring the efficacy of prayer. I've included the Reuters report about it to provide a contextual backdrop. Following the media's presentation of this study, the J-List, a discussion group of which I am a part, entered into a debate about it. I, being the opinionated person I am, joined in and began an interesting debate with a fellow J-Lister named Lynn. Here is part of that discussion (preceeded by the news article) for your perusal:

CHICAGO (Reuters) - A study of more than 1,800 patients who underwent heart bypass surgery has failed to show that prayers specially organized for their recovery had any impact, researchers said on Thursday.

Recent Comments:
Rex is telepathic powers — by Marnee on Thu, 2006-07-06 03:24
My telepathic experience — by Rex Wilkinson on Mon, 2006-07-03 21:34
Hypnosis now too? — by Landon Erp on Fri, 2006-06-30 21:28

A Fat Tax is A Fair Tax

Marcus's picture
Submitted by Marcus on Tue, 2006-04-04 14:56

Not true, but unfortunately plausible.

Recent Comments:
Fascist - indeed! — by Utility Belt on Tue, 2006-04-04 20:37
— by Tim S on Tue, 2006-04-04 19:34

( categories: )

Atlas Month—My First Love

Prima Donna's picture
Submitted by Prima Donna on Tue, 2006-04-04 07:09

From The Free Radical's special Ayn Rand Centenary issue, March 2005)

I met him when I was twenty-two. My life would never be the same again.

Recent Comments:
A Thousand Pardons — by Prima Donna on Thu, 2006-06-01 22:17
A similar kind of thing — by User hidden on Thu, 2006-06-01 20:03
Rex... — by Prima Donna on Mon, 2006-05-15 02:27

( categories: )

Adding Links to the directory

Adam Buker's picture
Submitted by Adam Buker on Tue, 2006-04-04 06:25

I would like to be able to add my website to the the directory but it seems that there is no way for a user to be able to do that like you could in SOLO Hq. Will there be any possibility of adding this feature to this site soon?


Recent Comments:
Concuring and opportunism — by Landon Erp on Tue, 2006-04-04 23:07

( categories: )

the Web 2.0 and capitalism

dvo's picture
Submitted by dvo on Tue, 2006-04-04 02:58

Everyone is talking about the "Web 2.0", or the "Living Web." The idea that everyone has recognized is that if you want to make a website with a lot of great stuff (but perhaps don't have many resources to start with), then set up a website where users can create their own content, and organize it, all by themselves. Wikipedia, Myspace, Flickr, etc. are great examples of this.

It occurred to me that this is analogous to the idea that makes capitalism so successful. If you want to set up a country that has a lot of great stuff, then you can either: A) Have the government provide all the content; or B) set up a system where any individual user (well, citizen) is free to add whatever content he thinks would be good. The spirit of the "Living Web" would tell you to go with the second option.

Recent Comments:
Daniel, the web is the — by Ross Elliot on Tue, 2006-04-04 05:35

Heidegger on Aristotle

seddon's picture
Submitted by seddon on Mon, 2006-04-03 01:22

There is a lot to hate about Heidegger. The Nazi bullshit is enough to put one off one’s food. And even if you can get past that, there is his lousy writing style. When I teach Existentialism I do Heidegger right after Nietzsche and even the dullest student is aware of the difference. So why this entry? I think I have found something of value in Heidegger and thought I would pass it on. Rand loved Aristotle and Heidegger wrote quite a bit about him. And his approach to Aristotle attracted the attention of Jacob Kline, long associated with the Great Books program at St. John’s College in Annapolis and whose influence can now be witnessed in a wonderful series of translations of Aristotle by Joe Sachs. Specifically he has translated the METAPHYSICS, PHYSICS, ON THE SOUL, NICHOMACHEAN ETHICS, ON MEMORY AND RECOLLECTION, AND THE POETICS. But back to Heidegger.

Recent Comments:
Greekless — by seddon on Tue, 2006-04-04 20:09
Greekless... — by PhilipC on Tue, 2006-04-04 19:23
That's Brave — by seddon on Tue, 2006-04-04 18:56


William E. Perry's picture
Submitted by William E. Perry on Sun, 2006-04-02 12:57

I am no longer employed by, or affiliated with The Objectivist Center. Nor will I be attending their summer seminar. There are several exceptions to this. First I am technically a member of TOC under its rules until sometime in August due to previous donations. Second I wrote an article about Terry Goodkind which should appear in an upcoming issue of the magazine. (I wrote the article in October.) If there are any letters to the editor concerning the article I may reply. Finally I have agreed to answer questions from the center about work I did, as well as the location of files in my former office and on my computer. I have also agreed to forward any e-mail I receive regarding TOC to the appropriate person there. I have specifically not agreed to give any advice about any matter.

Recent Comments:
Photo please Roderick — by Lindsay Perigo on Tue, 2007-04-17 01:00
"Abstract Particulars" — by Fifth of November on Mon, 2007-04-16 23:07
TOC — by eg on Thu, 2006-04-06 17:56

( categories: )

Punish, O Lord, those of us who, through our own fault, are ungreen

Marcus's picture
Submitted by Marcus on Sun, 2006-04-02 08:41

Excellent article from the Times.

"Buttonhole a passionate eco-apocalypticist and tell him a way has been found for us to cut carbon emissions perfectly painlessly, and carry on living as we do. Observe the involuntary anger cross his face. Or tell him it’s anyway too late and we’ll never stop China polluting. Observe that his objections remain: to how his own countrymen live. He may talk science but his underlying motives are of a different kind."

( categories: )

SoloThrust Topic(not safe for work-well, actually this one is) A Piece of Meat

Jody Gomez's picture
Submitted by Jody Gomez on Sun, 2006-04-02 02:55

While savoring my dinner tonight, I realized that there are only a couple of things more y-chromosome than a perfectly marbled, and perfectly cooked steak. What are your favorite cuts and cooking methods? I like fire as well as the next man, but for me grilling ain't it; I'll take it seared under a high-heat broiler anyday. And to all restaurants out there--never serve up a steak that can be described with the adjective "petit".

Recent Comments:
A-Grade Thruster topic, — by Ross Elliot on Mon, 2006-04-03 00:21
Yum — by Prima Donna on Sun, 2006-04-02 20:55
Steak — by AdamReed on Sun, 2006-04-02 18:52

( categories: )

April Update

Jason Quintana's picture
Submitted by Jason Quintana on Sat, 2006-04-01 21:47

It has been an interesting month watching things develop here on SOLO. As I initially noted, I was surprised when Lindsay tapped me to run things here, but I decided that the challenge he was offering is one that gives me an outlet to focus on things that are important to me. Objectivism is important to me, discussing ideas is important to me, and advocating freedom is important to me. The goal that Lindsay and I share is that we both want to develop the best Objectivist community on the Internet. While SOLO is certainly my personal favorite Objectivist community I recognize that a lot of work needs to be done before we can once again claim this title. My first goal in this process is to build a strong team of people to help me run different aspects SOLO. A lot of what I write in my initial monthly updates will be aimed at attracting people to help with different projects. This month I have three such projects that I want to mention.

Recent Comments:
contra Jennifer — by Jody Gomez on Tue, 2006-04-04 03:21
Error in Dates — by Jason Quintana on Mon, 2006-04-03 22:36
Kenny — by Jason Quintana on Mon, 2006-04-03 19:56

Cut the bastards off!

Rick Giles's picture
Submitted by Rick Giles on Sat, 2006-04-01 12:18

Jim 'The Spud' Bolger, 1990-1997 [pic: Dominion Post/]

There has been a buzz among some of us in the Kiwi blogosphere this week regarding the funding of our past Prime Ministers. Like ex-Presidents, old New Zealand PMs take a pension and take perks until the reaper finally takes them.

2005 Jim Bolger's travel cost $47,021 – which included $25,606 on self-drive cars.

Recent Comments:
No check, Brant, however I — by Ross Elliot on Sun, 2006-04-02 10:08
Tell your Mum that I give — by Ross Elliot on Sun, 2006-04-02 10:06
Ross — by eg on Sun, 2006-04-02 01:17

Objectivists Reeling!

Lindsay Perigo's picture
Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Sat, 2006-04-01 04:33

A series of bizarre incidents has rocked the Objectivist movement overnight, causing a run on counselling books by renowned neo-Objectivist therapist Nathaniel Branden. Dr. Branden has responded by raising the price of his works to $10,000 each, nearly as much as he's believed to charge California's feeble-minded therapy addicts for a one-hour personal fix. When accused, by one frustrated would-be book-purchaser, of "price-gouging," Dr. Branden, aka "Dr." Branden, replied, "Eat shit, dickhead."

The crisis was triggered by the sudden confession by Ayn Rand biographer Barbara Branden that she has made mistakes. Ms. Branden has insisted in the past that she has never made a mistake. Those who say she has made mistakes, she has claimed repeatedly, are angry alcoholics. Now, Ms. Branden has stepped forward to say she was mistaken about never being mistaken. Speaking on the website, Ms. Branden said, "In painting a picture of Frank O'Connor as an alcoholic, I made an egregious error. The error consisted in my not pointing out that Ayn Rand was an alcoholic too. ('Ayn the Alky' we used to call her.) I left it for my readers to infer that from the fact that she was angry all the time, but I should have spelled it out. I can only apologise to my readers for the years of deception I have been responsible for in this matter. Oh, and while I'm about it, it goes without saying that Leonard Peikoff is an alcoholic also. 'Lenny the Lush' we used to call him." When it was pointed out that she had presented no evidence of Dr. Peikoff's alcoholism, Ms. Branden retorted (angrily), "When has that ever stopped me? Furthermore, on this occasion I do have evidence, and I am its source. I saw Leonard once. He was angry AND he had a drink in his hand. There! Ha! Case closed, you raging pisshead!"

Recent Comments:
"And James? Hell, I called — by John M Newnham on Tue, 2006-04-04 15:32
Broken Balls — by Dan Edge on Sun, 2006-04-02 18:19
Give me a break — by sjw on Sun, 2006-04-02 17:56

Letter to NYU

Erika Holzer's picture
Submitted by Erika Holzer on Fri, 2006-03-31 22:59

This was just sent to NYU President John Sexton. Pass it on!



"Make the best use of what is in your power, and take the rest as it happens."
Epictetus, Stoic philosopher & crippled former slave.

From: Erika Holzer []
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:11 PM
To: ''
Subject: From two NYU Law School graduates

My husband, Henry Mark Holzer, earned a BA from New York University and we both earned our Juris Doctor degrees at the law school in 1959.

We are ashamed of our connection with NYU because of your craven surrender regarding the Danish cartoons and the treatment accorded the Ayn Rand Institute panelists, as well as members of the public, all of whom courageously wished to discuss a serious and important issue like civilized human beings.

Recent Comments:
Correction — by Rowlf on Tue, 2006-04-04 05:21
Wafa is not a Muslim - she — by Pete L on Mon, 2006-04-03 01:42
Kenny: ~~ Yes, "Muslims have — by Rowlf on Mon, 2006-04-03 01:20

The Food Philosophy Podcast

Prima Donna's picture
Submitted by Prima Donna on Fri, 2006-03-31 22:22

My show will go live on the Culinary Podcast Network later this weekend, but here's a teaser.

I cannot WAIT!!!!! Laughing out loud

UPDATE: And we're live! You can also subscribe via iTunes.

Recent Comments:
HUGE Announcement!! — by Prima Donna on Sat, 2006-04-08 05:16
That Steve guy... — by Prima Donna on Wed, 2006-04-05 16:06
Conspicious Consumption! — by Rick Giles on Wed, 2006-04-05 12:09

( categories: )

Hsieh Got My Classes Laughing

seddon's picture
Submitted by seddon on Fri, 2006-03-31 22:08

Hsieh's crack about me being the "most unreliable secondary source [on Kant] ever" was too funny for me not to tell my classes--the two ethics sections that I currently teaching. We are near the end of Kant's GROUNDING. Once I told them how vast the secondary literature on Kant is they found Hsieh's remark too funny. Then all during class at the appropriate moment, e.g., when I was answering a question or explicating a particualrly difficult passage I would remind them not to take my word since after all, I am the "most unreliable secondary source EVER." In fact, at one point I repeated Hsieh's line and the class in unison supplied the EVER. Someone asked me the web address so maybe we'll get some people to take a look at SOLOpassion, Of course, don't believe me after all etc.

Recent Comments:
Well-trained and thoroughness — by James Heaps-Nelson on Tue, 2006-04-11 20:38
Training — by James Heaps-Nelson on Tue, 2006-04-11 20:16
well-trained..and thoroughness — by PhilipC on Tue, 2006-04-11 20:00

OL Writer Explicitly Embraces Analytic-Synthetic Dichotomy

Dan Edge's picture
Submitted by Dan Edge on Fri, 2006-03-31 16:02

A morbid fascination led me to the Objectivist Living site, where I discovered this little gem:

The article is a criticism of Peikoff's "Analytic-Synthetic Dichotomy" paper published along with the ITOE. The author argues in an authoritative tone that Peikoff's essay is fundamentally flawed because the Analytic-Synthetic distinction is valid. He goes so far as to say:

"Mathematics does not correspond to reality, it may be applied to reality, but that is something quite different."

The article displays a complete misunderstanding of Peikoff's essay and, more significantly, a complete misunderstanding of Objectivist epistemology. Yet the response to the essay at OL was universal acceptance (with the exception of one poster whose only two posts on OL are a critical response to the paper).

Recent Comments:
Subsumption of Newton's Dynamics — by Stephen Boydstun on Thu, 2007-08-09 21:24
ASD — by 0 on Thu, 2007-08-09 09:24
The Harmony between Newton and Einstein — by Gregory Browne on Thu, 2007-08-09 07:39

( categories: )

Email received

Kenny's picture
Submitted by Kenny on Fri, 2006-03-31 13:41

This email got past Norton anti-spam (spooky!) and reached my inbox yesterday. It has been forwarded to Scotland Yard.

Dear Sir;

I am Abacha Blair, nephew of the Head of State and Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces of the United Kingdom.

We have come into £14 Million Pounds which has been lent to us by noble supporters of the regime, which we must transfer to an account in your country before it is found by agents of the security services (The Electoral Commission, Parliamentary Standards Committee and Scotland Yard).

These moneys must only be used for the doing of good works which is why we have contacted you as an upstanding member of the community. As a trusted individual, please send us your bank account details and we will TRANSFER IMMEDIATELY the sum of £14 Million UK Dollars into your account. It is very important that you only spend these moneys on community benefit projects although as a consideration we will pay you a HANDLING FEE of 20 PER CENT and nominate you for a PEERAGE in the HOUSE OF LORDS in the British Parliament.

Recent Comments:
James, you've finally got it! — by Kenny on Sat, 2006-04-01 20:41
Blair in loans for peerages scandal — by James Heaps-Nelson on Sat, 2006-04-01 19:58
Peers don't wear wigs. On — by Kenny on Sat, 2006-04-01 15:26

Parents' Rights/Children's Rights

Tenyamc's picture
Submitted by Tenyamc on Fri, 2006-03-31 07:47

Several weeks ago I posted notice of an upcoming meeting in the SOLO Michigan forum. The meeting topic was to be Parents' and Children's Rights. Along with the meeting notice, I posted the following introduction to the issue (please be aware that this was written by the discussion leader for that meeting--not me):

Parental rights is a more complicated matter than anyone could possibly fathom at first glance. Those we would call conservatives today believe parental rights are absolutist, almost in the same way that most Objectivists hold property rights as absolutist. Rand actually had very little to say about parenting and parental rights. But in our morality, how far do these rights really go? At what point should the government be allowed to step in to protect the child's rights as an individual? Consider the following cases in point:

Recent Comments:
No worries ... they get even — by VSD on Fri, 2006-04-28 18:57
Thank you — by Wes on Fri, 2006-04-28 12:47
Thanks for the reply, Wes. — by Tenyamc on Fri, 2006-04-28 06:26

( categories: )
Syndicate content