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Submitted by Rex Wilkinson on Wed, 2006-05-31 18:01

In the beggining was the natural forces and when monkey finaly evolved he could not understand the natural forces so these became known as the gods.Nowdays some of us have evolved enough to understand the natural forces so no longer need the mountain of mythilogical bullshit that our society is intrenched in.Primative cultures all round the world have the same belief still.The Maori have the origa

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Live for everything — by Rex Wilkinson on Mon, 2006-06-26 18:13
Know my audience? — by Rex Wilkinson on Wed, 2006-06-21 15:26
Rex...know your audience. — by Victor Pross on Mon, 2006-06-19 20:28

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Did You Study Greece and Rome?

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Submitted by PhilipC on Wed, 2006-05-31 16:15

In all the schools I went to in different parts of the country, no one covered world history or the origins of our civilization and culture in Greece and Rome - there never was a complete course or even a third of one. I had to wait till long out of school to learn about, to find the many books about the golden age of Greece, Plato and Socrates and Aristotle, about Athens vs. Sparta, about the Persian Wars. About Aeschylus and Sophocles and Euripides. The inventing of democracy in Athens. The rise of Greek architecture and sculpture. Euclid and Archimedes. Even about the Iliad and the Odyssey. And the same for the long arc of Roman history from Republic to Empire, Cicero and Caesar, the decline and fall, the Dark Ages that followed. And so on.

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Hi! — by krishna2 on Thu, 2006-07-13 14:43
The fundamental evil that — by Boaz the Boor on Mon, 2006-07-10 20:56
Public schools today — by Daniel Walden on Mon, 2006-07-10 19:06

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National versus Individual Musical Styles

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Submitted by JoeM on Wed, 2006-05-31 00:46

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"Where do you see the — by JoeM on Wed, 2006-05-31 03:40
Nationalism in music — by Boaz the Boor on Wed, 2006-05-31 01:21

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Sleepless in Boston

Submitted by wngreen on Wed, 2006-05-31 00:22

I'm at the USENIX technical conference this week in beautiful Boston, MA. It has been years since I've been out here and I've spent most of yesterday and today walking arround the city getting oriented. Any suggestions for a tourist in Boston? I've got all tomorrow free too ( the conference doesn't really start in earnist until Thursday).   

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Yay!!! — by Prima Donna on Fri, 2006-06-02 01:08
Jennifer the Momos were — by wngreen on Thu, 2006-06-01 23:15
I had a great duck tour — by wngreen on Thu, 2006-06-01 17:48

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Group leadership

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Submitted by Landon Erp on Tue, 2006-05-30 21:36

I've noticed with a lot of recent departures there are several groups in need of proper leadership.

I'm wondering if SOLO management (Linz, Jason, Andrew etc...) thinks these positions are still necessary and would like to see them filled with people capable of competently leading discussions, or thinks the forums are just best left alone as is.

I personally think good topical group leaders are a great thing to have because it keeps discussion on different topics fresh and intense, that and people in need of being lead in the right dirrection for further study have a good idea of a single person whom they can direct comments to.

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Tongue with Morels? — by Prima Donna on Wed, 2006-05-31 04:24
Regina ... — by Lindsay Perigo on Wed, 2006-05-31 01:47
Fabulous! — by Prima Donna on Wed, 2006-05-31 01:19

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Submitted by Rick Giles on Tue, 2006-05-30 11:33

I lived in Avondale when I first moved to Auckland in a place I like to call Home.3 (I'm now live at Home.9 and don't confir this title lightly). It was a huge change for me comming to Auckland with its 1.8 million people from a little place in Canterbury. The whole of the South Island just capped 1 million in the last few months!

Anyway, Avondale is, in being cosmopolitan, one of the very top towns for New Zealand's Pacific Island community (or, "Coconuts" : ). Avondale High is the only school in New Zealand where the lavalava is part of the uniform. One thing I never managed to do was to find an Avondale spider (the giant one on a pole down the main street doesn't count!). This spider is supposed to be endemic to Avondale, it's big and scary looking but completely harmless. They were used as the monster in the film Arachnophobia.

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Two-substance theory

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Submitted by Chris Cathcart on Tue, 2006-05-30 04:04

I wasn't sure where else to post theoretical topics other than to the general forum....

I had recently read some reference to a Binswanger lecture, where apparently he defends, in some terms or other, a "dual substance" position as regard mind and body.

I've been going through some thinking now and then on this topic -- how exactly the concept "form" works in an Aristotelian metaphysics. I think the real simple solution to the whole mind-body pseudo-problem is to speak of mind as the form of a certain kind of material entity. I think, ultimately, form pertains to the arrangement that the matter takes on. Aristotelianism proper -- Aristotle's own ideas -- is still too infused with Platonism to make a fully rational understanding of this. I'm sure some hardcore Aristotle scholars could fill us in on this, but as I understand it, form for Aristotle is not to be treated simply as a (product of) specific arrangement of matter. Form can't be actualized except for in a material body, but the manner in which form is united with matter seems Platonic-influenced. It just happens that form -- that "thing" that one could in principle conceive of as existing on its own (and indeed, this comes out in the end with Aristotle's Prime Mover) -- comes in some fashion to meld or merge with matter. Form and matter get treated as two separate ontological categories that, in terms of actual existence (save for the Prime Mover), could only occur together. But they're still two separate ontological categories -- the remnants of Platonism. Is there a cause of form lying only in the particular arrangement of matter? Here Aristotle does some further splitting, with his four-fold theory of cause, conceived as independent but in actuality working together. But yes, it would seem that form is its own cause, independent of matter being arranged in a particular way.

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Substance as "independent" — by Boaz the Boor on Tue, 2006-05-30 08:43
Mind as form? — by Boaz the Boor on Tue, 2006-05-30 08:06
form — by Chris Cathcart on Tue, 2006-05-30 06:10

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The Sorry State of Our Union

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Submitted by George Reisman on Tue, 2006-05-30 04:00

Congressmen no longer read the bills they vote on and thus do not require them to make sense. (The latest example is the passage of a bill by the House of Representatives making “price gouging” illegal while leaving it undefined.) They leave it to the President and the Supreme Court to sort things out.

Recent Comments:
TJ was right — by Lanza Morio on Sun, 2006-06-04 07:08
A is A — by Craig Ceely on Wed, 2006-05-31 04:25
Ouch — by Lanza Morio on Tue, 2006-05-30 17:27

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'In the beginning was sound' -- Barenboim's Reith lectures. 'Brilliant!'

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 03:03

The internet is a wonderful thing. Not only does it throw up the absurd, the titillating and the combative, lurking within it also are real nuggets of pure genius. This year's BBC Reith Lectures by brilliant conductor Daniel Barenboim is such a nugget.

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Craig — by Victor Pross on Fri, 2006-06-16 23:21
From conductor to caterwauler — by Craig Ceely on Fri, 2006-06-16 23:15
Okay, Linz, we'll give you that one... — by Craig Ceely on Fri, 2006-06-16 23:08

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'Maori most affected by minimum wage' says academic

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 03:02

Here is some sense. From an academic. I know that's surprising.

Maori would be most adversely affected by a rise in the minimum wage, says an AUT senior economics lecturer.

See. Good sense. And of course she's right (and have you noticed that a lot of AUT lecturers are not the politically correct line-toers that many of their colleagues over the road are?), and she's backed it up with research:

"My study [says Gail Pacheco] found for Maori who find the minimum wage binding, a 10% rise in the real minimum wage would see a 15.8% point fall in employment propensity, a drop of 13.5 hours usually worked each week, a 5.7% point increase in unemployment propensity and a 10.9% point increase in inactivity, that is, not working or studying."

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Every time I hear someone — by wngreen on Wed, 2006-05-31 20:40

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'Christus Hypercubus' - Salvador Dali

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 03:00

'Christus Hypercubus' - Salvador Dali. Reportedly Ayn Rand's favourite painting -- and also, coincidentally, one of mine.

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 02:59

PJ O'Rourke points out that when used items have real value -- Ferraris for example -- they don't need to be 'recycled,' they get sold. 'Recycled' is what happens to stuff with no value, or with so little value only a government regulation can make enough people care.

Why is 'recycling' so good? Jerry Taylor from the Cato Institute talks about recycling paper:

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Super Fund — by Marnee on Tue, 2006-05-30 19:16
To NZ — by eg on Tue, 2006-05-30 14:46
Next time call them liars — by R.T.Brooke on Tue, 2006-05-30 09:28

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Future generations

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 02:58
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Un-sustainable management

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 02:54

'Future generations' are the reason all-too frequently given for conservation and preservation of resources. Indeed, the New Zealand Ministry for the Environment maintains that "conservation of resources for future generations" is explicitly required by the Resource Management Act's core principle of "sustainable management." It is mandatory. It is also stupid. I'll just say two things about both:

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How to help the poor

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 02:52

This is too good to waste. Adam Reed, in debating the Mother Teresa/Paris Hilton question had this to say on SOLO:

Fred - you write, "the point about Mother Teresa isn't that there is anything necessarily wrong with helping the poor. The point is that it is an extremely minor and trivial way to help them and elevating people such as her diminishes the much more profound impact of industrial development and the great men who make it possible."

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I like the statement Ayn — by Victor Pross on Wed, 2006-06-07 05:57
altruism — by Chris Cathcart on Tue, 2006-05-30 05:47
Nice — by Craig Ceely on Tue, 2006-05-30 05:33

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Restricting growth: It's not smart, and it sure ain't cheap

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 02:49

The busybody nostrums of town planners are slowly being seen for what they are: restrictions on people's lives; an insistence that people live as planners wish them to, rather than as they might choose for themselves -- and the planners' restrictions are adding enormous extra costs to housing. Two recent articles confirm that view, one from San Francisco and one from Boulder, Colorado.

Boulder has been described as "twenty-five square miles surrounded by reality." Boulder's town planning regime seems to confirm that view, says the Thoreau Institute's Randal O'Toole, who notes that a whopping ninety-percent of American housing markets are less expensive than Boulder.

Why? "Restrictive land-use planning has driven up housing prices in Boulder...

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Solving 'illegal immigration'

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 02:49

The case of Hirsi Ali highlights again the great immigration debate, and on that subject Harry Binswanger cuts to the chase once again. You want a solution to the 'problem of illegal immigration? Here it is:

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Great Structures: 'Brooklyn Bridge' - John and Washington Roebling

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 02:43

Recent Comments:
New York — by Peri Sword on Sat, 2006-06-03 18:40

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Great Structures: The Forth Rail Bridge - Baker and Fowler

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 02:39

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Mark Inglis. Hero.

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Submitted by Peter Cresswell on Tue, 2006-05-30 02:37

A brief word on the issue of Mark Inglis, his heroic climb and the tragic death of David Sharp. Many people including Everest conqueror Sir Ed Hillary have questioned the morality of Mark Inglis walking past the dying David Sharp. Many details have emerged of what happened up 8000m up in the death zone -- a place so inhospitable to human life that at times just surviving is all you can do -- including the news that Inglis's own sherpas did investigate David Sharp and concluded no help was possible to him.

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I personally haven't heard — by JoeM on Thu, 2006-06-01 23:34
News in the US? — by Peter Cresswell on Thu, 2006-06-01 22:44
Another relevant quote from — by JoeM on Wed, 2006-05-31 23:57

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A Salute to Heroes

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Submitted by Prima Donna on Mon, 2006-05-29 15:14

I was astonished to discover that many people are unaware of the meaning of Memorial Day in the United States -- they see this simply as a day off to barbecue and relax in the sunshine.

While it is most certainly an opportunity to that (and I emphatically support it), it is also a day to remember those who have given their lives to uphold freedom and liberty in the United States. Every soldier who has fallen on a battlefield has enabled me to savor the freedom inherent in all the activities I will enjoy today, and I wanted to publicly say thanks for that. I've also posted a note on my Gilded Fork blog:

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Band of Brothers — by User hidden on Tue, 2006-06-27 04:16
Not so fast — by bobkolker on Fri, 2006-06-02 20:09
Kolker: "The error in both — by wngreen on Fri, 2006-06-02 17:46

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Phil, what is this?

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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Mon, 2006-05-29 09:33

Sent to me via e-mail, citing you on the TOC Frord Board:

"And oh, yes, another embarrassing secret - how many paid subscribers does The Free Radical have? Answer: A hundred and eighty.

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Phil ... — by Lindsay Perigo on Tue, 2006-05-30 00:29
Too Short to Be Crystal Clear — by PhilipC on Mon, 2006-05-29 17:06
Endlessly Wrapping...Lines — by PhilipC on Mon, 2006-05-29 16:39

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Brokeback Mountain 2

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Submitted by Chris Cathcart on Mon, 2006-05-29 07:56
Brokeback Mountain 2

Posting this was quite necessary, yes.
Screenplay by the King of All Media himself.

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What Is Moral Perfection in Objectivism?

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Submitted by Casey on Mon, 2006-05-29 06:26

OK, I think it's time we clear up this issue once and for all for those who seem to misunderstand Rand's philosophy as a whole in their otherwise inexplicable misunderstanding of Rand's view of moral perfection (e.g. Robert Campbell, post 77 on the PARC thread at RoR. Sorry to reference that site, but it's for a good cause, Linz).

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What Is Moral Perfection in Objectivism? — by bobkolker on Wed, 2006-06-07 13:51
Linz, I like what you said — by Lanza Morio on Wed, 2006-06-07 09:34
There is a great difference — by Lanza Morio on Wed, 2006-06-07 09:24

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Question From a Newbie

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Submitted by Amy Lauren on Mon, 2006-05-29 05:59

I'm new to Objectivism, but I was shown this article on another forum, and I'm wondering if you all have seen this:

Vanity Devours Sanity

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Well, hi, Amy, welcome to — by Ross Elliot on Mon, 2006-05-29 06:20
Hi Amy — by Lanza Morio on Mon, 2006-05-29 06:19

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Hot vs. beautiful, or: Sex vs. aesthetics

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Submitted by Chris Cathcart on Mon, 2006-05-29 05:30

If I may pose this as a valid distinction rather than a false dichotomy, I was just looking at the Thrust thread about Keira Knightley and Scarlett Johannson on the cover, and came to the sudden realization that while all of Keira's physical features may not come out to a "10" (she is very much on the, um, "slender" side, very Ally McBeal-like), in terms of pure aesthetics her face is about as beautiful as they come amongst celebrities. Angelina Jolie, OTOH, would fall into the "hot" category; her face and her entire physicality are more openly inviting to sex. (Another sudden realization, see.) So where am I going with this? I haven't the faintest. Other than, it seems that there are women who can invite more of a pure aesthetic response, and others who invite the boner response.

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It's mostly about — by AShortt on Thu, 2009-01-29 19:25
"In my twenties I once or — by 0 on Mon, 2008-10-13 20:28
Aesthetics and Sex — by Newberry on Wed, 2008-07-16 19:53

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State of ARI Talks

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Submitted by Mike_M on Mon, 2006-05-29 03:17

Here is a list of upcomming State of ARI talks.

Detroit, Michigan
Monday, June 12, 2006
Westin Southfield [map]
1500 Town Center
Southfield, MI 48075
(248) 827-4000
7:30 PM

Seattle, Washington
Monday, June 19, 2006
Red Lion Hotel [map]
1415 5th Avenue
Seattle, WA 98101
(206) 971-8000
7:30 PM

Boston, Massachusetts
Wednesday, July 5, 2006
World Trade Center [map]
Amphitheater, Mezzanine Level

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You guys ... — by Lindsay Perigo on Thu, 2006-06-15 08:48
Another TOC title — by Kenny on Thu, 2006-06-15 08:28
Atlas Hugged — by DianaHsieh on Thu, 2006-06-15 01:41

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My debt to Steve Ditko

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Submitted by Landon Erp on Sun, 2006-05-28 21:56

It's just really starting to come to my attention that there are a lot of people who don't know who Steve Ditko is. I know most people here are at least mildly aware of him but I still don't think he has the recognition he deserves (especially among Objectivists).

This guy had a major impact on my life and I think for that. I owe him a debt I may never be able to pay completely. This writing is part of my payment.

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Now that is an interesting — by Landon Erp on Sun, 2006-06-11 19:48
Who really wrote Blue Beetle #2? — by Bob Palin on Sun, 2006-06-11 18:33
Yes! — by Bob Palin on Wed, 2006-05-31 01:45

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We need a singles bar here!

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Submitted by User hidden on Sun, 2006-05-28 19:17

Isn't there a singles board or something? I wanna start looking for the man or woman of my dreams!

P.S. The description of this board says that attention-seekers don't belong. Jennifer and I may have to start our own little banter board if that is really the case. Smiling

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> I spent this past weekend — by PhilipC on Thu, 2006-06-01 00:14
72 hours?! Do I have to — by User hidden on Wed, 2006-05-31 04:04
Good choice! — by Prima Donna on Wed, 2006-05-31 01:47

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I need advice.

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Submitted by User hidden on Sun, 2006-05-28 19:10

I don't know how many lesbians or bi women there are here, but I need some advice from the one's who are. I am recently separated after 6 years of marriage to a man. I haven't been with a woman in a long freakin time, and I want to BAD! I have been to the only true lesbian bar here in Atlanta, and what I found was kind of discouraging. The women who hit on me were all way too butch for my taste. The women I was attracted to (the curvy, feminine ones) all seemed to be into very butch women. Now, I'm no delicate flower, but I have boobs and hips and long hair. I love to wear makeup and go shopping, and the like. Is the lesbian community everywhere so divided down gender role lines? What do I do to find lipstick lesbians who want lipstick lesbians? Are bi-curious girls my only choice (I do meet them in bars sometimes)? I really would like someone who was into women, not just into trying it out once or twice. What is your advice?

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Dating Online — by Ashley on Fri, 2006-06-02 04:53
Maybe bad luck? — by User hidden on Thu, 2006-06-01 19:46
Online dating — by Prima Donna on Thu, 2006-06-01 02:47

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